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So my aluminium ones scrap after the missus dishwashered it.
I'm now wanting a new one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Q6VR89Q/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_QMHHE8Y3F6YEPFSWDY47?_encoding=UTF8&psc= 1">Stainless jobby
Any reason why not or do I just go bialetti? And I'd so why
Bialetti, but you will be replacing the rubber seals with silicone ones from ebay soon enough after you forget it's still on - the after market ones are better. Love ours. Never wash with soap, just water.
We've an ikea stainless at our caravan, just as good, but same rules, just wipe out, no soaps.
That's similar to the stainless Ikea one I've got. It's good, as fossy said, just look after it.
Who washes a coffee pot?
Bialetti for the win!
Can I be snobby and say they don't make espresso? Thanks.
It's a Moka pot, named after Mocha in Yemen. Not an espresso pot.
Or an Alessi La conica?
It is noticeably slower to make coffee than my La cupola.
I'm an architect, I like Aldo Rossi, sorry.
So my aluminium ones scrap after the missus dishwashered it.
I’m now wanting a new one.
Is that a new wife you're wanting 🤔
Is that a new wife you’re wanting
+1
I think +1 would make things too complicated
Never really found much difference between these stovetop pots.
My favourite kind of coffee. Preferable to any espresso I've bought in a cafe (artisan or Starbucks). After trying quite a few roasts out it turns out I like the £1 bag of Aldi Italian Espresso blend.... Probably because it's fresh as I just open a new bag after a few days since it's so cheap.
*Awaits scorn*
Never really found much difference between these stovetop pots.
My favourite kind of coffee. Preferable to any espresso I’ve bought in a cafe (artisan or Starbucks). After trying quite a few roasts out it turns out I like the £1 bag of Aldi Italian Espresso blend…. Probably because it’s fresh as I just open a new bag after a few days since it’s so cheap.
*Awaits scorn*
No scorn here - agree with both the type of maker and coffee choice. The Lidl gold brick also seems to work well. I've tried all the fancy coffee makers and fancy coffees - appreciate some people do get genuine enjoyment out of making great coffee but for me personally it's diminishing returns once you get above a reasonable supermarket coffee made carefully in a Mokka pot or cafetiere.
Just get a bialletti one they just last and easy to get spares - not sure why you'd ever need to dishwasher a Mokka pot. Quick rinse and dry.
After trying quite a few roasts out it turns out I like the £1 bag of Aldi Italian Espresso blend….
I'm with you on this. In the stove top it's good stuff. Good caffeine hit too.
Waitrose own brand espresso is currently my favourite of any. Nice as a weekend treat 🙂
aP I bought some alessi teaspoons in tk Maxx,only a few quid for a box of 6, very nice too. If I see the stove top I 'll deffo buy one seeing how much they are.
Who washes a coffee pot?
I rinse mine daily.
Is that a new wife you’re wanting
After he's finished the new patio.
I think +1 would make things too complicated
Made me laugh!
My parents bought me a stainless Bialetti 20 years ago. I can’t see it ever needing replacing.
OP, I can’t open your link for some reason. Skimlinks looks to be down. Which stovetop is the link for?
I dishwasher'd my stove pot too. Quite like its look now, like an aged patina.
But these days I mostly use those new fangled coffee tea bags things so you should probably just ignore me.
I dishwasher’d my stove pot too. Quite like its look now, like an aged patina.
Yeah I've done it before as well (when I replace the seal for instance) A run through with water or sacrificial brew is enough to get rid of any lingering aftertaste. But folks like their rituals.
Pezetti, my Bialetti ended up furring up just about after the first use and the seal was utter crap. The Pezettis (1 and 3 cup) are spot on and haven't given me any grief.
We've got an old aluminium Bialetti we bought years ago, makes one good big mug full - anyone able to guess what that translates into in terms of espresso cups? Quite fancy a Pezetti in stainless but don't want the wrong size. 🙂
makes one good big mug full
I cannot imagine the damage I would do to society if I drank a whole mug of stovetop coffee.
my Bialetti ended up furring up
A stainless one? How?
How do people drink Bialetti pond slurry? I can handle a 2 cup (double shot) moka pot but anything bigger makes an overextracted mess looking more like the stuff I can fish out of the Thames not far from my front door. Why does it taste like somebody dissolved a slice of burnt toast and called it coffee. Smells disgusting while its doing it and somehow it is a virtue not to wash the damn thing. Heathens
Turn the heat down/off sooner. If you’re not using gas or induction, that means taking it off the hob.
With stove tops timing is everything. You've pretty much got this teeny window between almost perfect lovely brew and pond sludge. Haha
I've a standard Moka pot and a Brikka. The Brikka makes a noticeable nicer brew. Think it's because it takes s smaller amount of water and can be done on a lower heat.
Also, start with boiling water from the kettle, not cold from the tap.
I still use my aeropress daily for lack of mess & faff compared to the stove top, but there is something fun about the stovetop. Not used it for ages, might have to change that this weekend.
Ohh for added snob factor I'm on an aga...
Or should I just go for a bean to cup as tbf I mainly drink latte or a very milky brew anyway
You’ve pretty much got this teeny window between almost perfect lovely brew and pond sludge.
This.
Also, start with boiling water from the kettle, not cold from the tap.
This.
I much prefer espresso… but a good stove top brew is still very enjoyable… but you need to play close attention when the pot is on the heat.
Aga/Rayburn can be hard to use for this, but starting with boiling water, and getting ready to remove to a trivet at just the right point, and it’s perfectly doable.
time for some snobbery
Without coffee snoberry we are no better than savages!*
* Said purely to rile people, drink what you like.
Alessi, looks ace, not particularly expensive.
Rinse only.
Who washes a coffee pot?
An Italian I worked with said I should never clean my Bialetti, just a rinse after use. Sounded a good excuse anyhoo!
The window between delicious coffee and bitter sludge is very small indeed. I love a double espresso first thing in the morning and last thing at night....no idea how that works!
Makes the best coffee IMHO.
After reading on here i just made a stove top coffee with boiling water for the first time.
Definitely tastes better.
Why is that?
its quicker to get up to pressure.
I cannot imagine the damage I would do to society if I drank a whole mug of stovetop coffee.
I'm just finishing the dregs of my Bialetti 12 cup I put on at lunchtime. That's 775ml of delicious coffee to you and me. There is only me in the department today (ain't covid great) so no sharing required.
Do you fancy being in my year 10 class last thing this afternoon - now do you punk?
Why is that?
You want to be getting the water through the coffee before the coffee gets toasted. So starting with hot water, and getting the pot off the heat as soon as possible, helps you achieve this.
Well the boiling water trick made my £1:49 / 200g Lidl espresso ground coffee taste like illy, which is nearly 4 times the price!
A Bialetti isn't really espresso though is it? Though we also have a Bialleti cappuccino maker that doesn't make proper cappuccino.
Well the boiling water trick
This forum can occasionally deliver useful advice, it’s not all just a few weird men mass debating for their own amusement at the expense of useful and interesting conversion between everyone else.
isn’t there a connection between aluminum saucepans and dementia (i’m sure it has a more pc name). got that reason i’d get a stainless one. a good quality one will last longer
Ahh, a timely thread to help clear something up. I’ve been using various sizes of Bialetti aluminium mokka pots until quite recently when an elderly relative said I shouldn’t be using them. She claimed that the pot would be gradually poisoning me! As if I’d been eating lead or something.
At the time I kind of laughed it off as the ramblings of a crazy old woman, but then I started to get the fear and switched to an aeropress.
So, is there any truth in it? She’s immensely wise about all sorts of things. But then she also takes the Daily Mail so…
I haven't used aluminium pans or pot for years, I thought it was common knowledge
On a slight tangent there was this ghastly incident of course. Staggering it happened
Linky
I swapped to stainless 20 years ago for exactly that reason. But I was using my old alu stove top twice a day everyday at that point. For occasional use I doubt there’s any risk really.
A stainless one? How?
No, alu. But now you've put me off, cheers.
I much prefer espresso… but a good stove top brew is still very enjoyable… but you need to play close attention when the pot is on the heat.
Just curious, have been enjoying my Bialetti coffee every other morning, but what is the perfect window, I tend to take off the heat and pour as soon as I hear it bubbling, and I use boiling water.
Also - goes off to Google aluminium poisoning...
Taking off the heat as soon as it is bubbling and, depending on the heat, quenching onto a cold thermal mass (e.g. skillet) or under running water work for me. Or, pour immediately but ignore the late extraction you get when it is tipped upright again. I can get a 2 cup brikka to produce a very acceptable pseudo-shot but... The late extraction from 2 cups onward is vile and does nothing for the balance. With a lot of attention you might be able to get something drinkable from a 4 cupper but 6 and up are lunacy. The bigger you go, the better chances come from half loading the filter and going for quicker flow but you might as well have a 2 cupper and make an americano.
And all with boiling water, as many have mentioned.
The aluminium/alzheimers thing is a bit of a red herring. There was some research in rats that pointed towards a possible link that got a lot of attention but hasn't been replicated in humans.
Best link I could find is here: https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/risk-factors-and-prevention/metals-and-dementia there's a bit of scrolling to find the aluminium section, but it's fairly comprehensive and well written.
Get yourself a V60 dropper and thank me later. Consistent perfection.
Blimey, 30 seconds of googling tells me the aluminium pot thing is indeed a red herring. I stand corrected
Get yourself a V60 dropper and thank me later. Consistent perfection.
Meant to type “dripper” 🙄
I'd never thought to put hot water in a Moka pot, but makes sense.
I can't remember the name of it but I thought someone made a very pricey Moka type pot, where the steam generated goes through a little tube in a water bath so that you get pressurised hot water at 90ish degrees and high pressure hitting the coffee rather than boiling water and steam.
Looked amazing but IRC it cost a fair bit.
I dishwasher’d my stove pot too. Quite like its look now, like an aged patina.
I one I keep at my mum's has has been through the dishwasher, many times, the coffee tastes the same though.
I’m using my wife’s 25 year old pot and a hand grinder, recently bought the same coffee pre ground and really can’t tell the difference. So what’s the consensus, bean or ground in moka pots?
I’m getting 3-4 mugs out of my 12 shot, 50/50 top up with hot water,what’s the usual ratio people are using ?
I’ve been using bonka mezcal…..which I’m not sure about,but the names great.
I really need to fix my jura, stove top even with a kettle is way more farf than pressing a button.
Make with boiling water + take off the heat the INSTANT it starts to Stromboli = coffee transformed for me. 😀
This forum can occasionally deliver useful advice, it’s not all just a few weird men mass debating for their own amusement at the expense of useful and interesting conversion between everyone else.
I just did the hot water and remove immediately thing today, I can't decide if it makes me hate you all more or less. But damn I must have been murdering that coffee before.
take off the heat the INSTANT it starts to Stromboli
Now that is a gamechanger!
Well I bought a 6 cup Bialetti after reading about them on this thread. £22 from Amazon Warehouse so not a big outlay to try it. Very impressed.
A definite step up in quality from my cafetiére and starting with boiling water it's the same ballpark timewise to get into the cup.
I just did the hot water and remove immediately thing today, I can’t decide if it makes me hate you all more or less. But damn I must have been murdering that coffee before.
A definite step up in quality from my cafetiére and starting with boiling water it’s the same ballpark timewise to get into the cup.
Now imagine the improvements if you both start fresh grinding (with a consistent grinder) and getting good 7-9bar extractions!!!
Sorry, couldn't help myself 😉
It looks like a slippery slope. I'm teetering on the edge.
Anyone found a method to make a good half pot of coffee in a moka pot? Apart from buying another pot half the size of the first.
My method is to fill the water container full like for a full pot anyway - hot water obvs. Use a half measure (maybe a little more - no idea why) of coffee but....heinous crime.....Tamp it a little bit. Brew with the lid off and stop and pour when half the water has come through.
I reckon there is a market a widget that reduced the volume of the grounds section covering up the perforations in the empty half, or something.
My own first world problem is that the bars above my gas hob end too far apart for the coffee pot to sit safely so I have to hold it and burn my fingers. I've always used boiling water so it only takes a few seconds but has anyone found or rigged up some sort of over-hob pot stand?
My own first world problem is that the bars above my gas hob end too far apart for the coffee pot to sit safely so I have to hold it and burn my fingers. I’ve always used boiling water so it only takes a few seconds but has anyone found or rigged up some sort of over-hob pot stand?
Back when I used mokka pots I had this issue and used to wedge a skewer under one side of the pot. But then I'm a "make do and mend" sort of fellow.
snoberry
I hope you are having wild Swedish snoberries with your coffee, and only in-season.
@molgrips - school grade typo, my apologies! Although I'd quite like to try some snoberries 🙂
I still have the one I bought some 30years ago while living Italy.. I drag it out on occasion if I want a super charged caffeine hit.
@teanadbiscuit no worries, I use one just like the one linked. Gets a bit scorched but otherwise solid.
Ooo, that's great, ta - coffee pot is fine but my milk frother's right on the cusp, accidents have happened....