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I'm ordering my first lot of wood for my newly fitted woodburner... I want enough for all winter and have decided it's about 4 dumpy bags worth. The best deal I think I've found is £285 for this:
https://www.logsforsale.co.uk/product/2m3-crate/?species=oak
Can I just double check...
is this a good deal?
Is oak the best wood to burn for a longer lasting log?
All the local stuff is £90 per dumpy bag making it nearly £100 more expensive than this if indeed I get the amount of cubic wood they say.
Thanks!
PS located South Cumbria.
That’s expensive! Last lot I bought I think was £110 quid for three dumpies.
PS located south Cumbria.
I'm near Blackpool and paid £170 for 2m^3 of hard wood delivered.
I'm currently paying £70 for a crate of hardwood (2 dumpy bags worth they claim)
Fair price for the effort to package like that, but would expect a 12' trailer to cost nearly half as much and contain more logs. Air dried is fine unless you plan to keep them in your airing cupboard.
lesgrandepotato - where did you get yours from please?
Just looked a bit further seems to be some good deals on ebay.. but only £70 per dumpy of hardwood.
£30 per dumpy collected of softwood in preston.. that sounds quite cheap - is softwood a lot faster burning to make that not worth it?
richardkennerley - wheres that from as well please?
Just to add, actual dumpy bags are rubbish for drying unless they are the vented mesh ones. Fine if they are just the method of delivery. Lot of people now using ibc frames, fence net on a pallet or potato boxes.
Supply shouldn't be an issue if you're near Cumbria.
A lot of sellers don't advertise online, they get by just fine by word of mouth, we even ask our customers to not pass on our details, doing as much as we want to do already.
Just outside great eccleston, a nursery on moss side lane. Not named on Google maps but you can see the log piles!
It's about £90 per builders bag here too.
Anyone got any log supplier recommendations in Huddersfield/Halifax area?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44203396
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45225406
Paton As usual None of your links are useful none of those link contain where to buy logs.
I guess you live in a mains gas area and have the option not to have a wood burner doing the bulk of the heating
But anyway wouldn't waste my money on kiln dried logs
Soft wood burns quicker yes but also releases the heat to the room quicker and gets a good burn on quicker. For the average stove use of a few hours at night. More than adaquate. If your burning all day long then hard wood may save you a few trips to the stove.
I pay 230 for a 6ton truck to the gunwhales
I also buy in April/may at least then I don't have to worry about what turns up moisture wise and it tends to be cheaper
It's easy to dismiss kiln dried logs when you are a woodburning seasoned veteran (no pun intended) but it sounds like the OP has just had a stove fitted and need some logs immediately.
We're in the same position. New stove fitted yesterday, no log supplies, so in need of logs + log store + sundry items.
Unless you have the foresight to build a log store, fill it with logs to season early in the year many months before fitting a stove, this would seem like a normal situation.
Kiln dried takes away the gamble of will they be properly seasoned or not. I much prefer hardwood over soft, properly seasoned will light in seconds but burn for ages.
Kiln dried logs... really.
So you've not just got the pollution issues linked to above from the stove itself, but also the issues from the kiln that's used to try the logs .
Nice.
You haven’t read the articles above.
"properly seasoned will light in seconds "
Read again , its not about lighting them , they will light easy yes BUT the softwood gets up to temp and starts giving out heat QUICKER.
@thegeneralist - according to the BBC article above our postcode is rated as 1 (low pollution levels) so we're going to do our best to elevate the pollution levels to a point where you can reach hand-wringing nirvana
hmmm...drying wood in an oven to then use it as a fuel.
Yep. Sounds like a great idea. Crack on....
Or maybe you could think about it and buy something more envrionmentally sustainable. In fact do this. Please.
I'm in the borders, just paid £100 for two dumpy bags. Could have had three for £120 but only have a tiny log store.
Parents have loads of room, they get a massive trailer, probably four or five dumpy bags worth for £200.
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PS Barn-dried
alexx, those crates look like they've come from Eastern Europe - not great in terms of carbon footprint.
Edit - Arbtalk is always an interesting read
https://arbtalk.co.uk/forums/forum/12-firewood-forum/
Any recommendations for logs around Harrogate - we are currently paying £85 per dumpy bag now that I have burned through our seasoned store of big tree which we removed last year (still have about approx half a dumpy bag worth to chop but have a bad arm so can't do any chopping right now) 🙁
Drax bring their biomass pellets all the way from America! How on earth does that work in terms of carbon footprint?
"Drax bring their biomass pellets all the way from America! How on earth does that work in terms of carbon footprint?"
Do drax care ?
I've just had 960kg of pini kay logs delivered. They are everywhere! Open a cupboard: pini kay logs! On stairs: pini kay logs! And so on.... £325 delivered so not cheap but hopefully will last all winter.
I'm a first time stoveist. Had it fitted yesterday and just waiting for the plaster to dry out before I can light it.
I was recommended the pini kay logs but not sure I'd buy them again. Don't know how they are going to burn but each 12 piece pack comes plastic wrapped which kind of makes a mockery of their less polluting 'green' credentials.
Oops I forgot the 😉
The Pilot - link to where from?
https://www.bioglow.co.uk/pini-kay-wood-fuel-briquettes/woodmix-pini-kay-briquettes-1
They are actually £329 but I don't suppose £4 will make any difference 🙂
Also worth a ring around some of the tree surgeons in your area - many do logs as a bi-product or will point you in the direction of a mate who does. If you've got room to store then buy now for next winter if it's still green and you'll have a seasoned pile to go at without having had to pay someone to store and/or dry it for you.
WRT to the original question on Oak - I don't mind it, but only if mixed with other sorts of hardwood (and very well seasoned). It smoulders and gives head out slowly. Mixed with something like beech or ash it gives a nice balance.
^ this is what I do. I have a tree surgeon who drops off approx 7 tons for about £70 - I then get to play with the chainsaw and log splitter 🙂
The only downside (and it's pretty insignificant) is that he tends to bring me the stuff other people can't deal with so it's generally very big and not easily handled - but I'm lucky enough to have a large concreted area with easy access that he can dump the stuff on, like this:
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gives head out slowly.
And that's a bad thing?
Read again , its not about lighting them , they will light easy yes BUT the softwood gets up to temp and starts giving out heat QUICKER.
Lighting quick means they get there quick too it doesn’t take much working out.
what ever drac, the people paid to know (and those profiting from YOUR wood snobbery) oh and the scandanavians disagree with you.
Mixed burn for the win. i only burn hardwood when the stoves on all day if i have any ready. for evenings softwood for the win.
If all the woodburners in the uk were wood snobs we would be out of hardwood quick sharp.
and oldtennishoes is on it - ARbtalk dont half love laughing at hardwoods only snobs.
Johndoh - try Scotton Tree Care. My lad's a tree surgeon but he does powerlines and hasn't got time to bring the good stuff home.
Any top tips for log sources around Halifx?
I have used some thick briquettes from a Wood place near Corby and they are great if you dont mind them not looking like a proper log
I think it was 180 for 900kg and they have about 4% moisture!
and oldtennishoes is on it – ARbtalk dont half love laughing at hardwoods only snobs.
🙄😂
I've a multi fuel stove I buy a mixture of fuels.
So I'm not really that fussed about having to top it up more often as if I'm doing a longer burn I'll probably use some reformed type wood. So that being said is £30 a dumpy bag of seasoned softwood collected the cheapest I'll be looking at getting? Or does that still equate very closely to a £70 dumpy bag of hardwood? Once kw/h burn time is guessed?
I've found a local company doing loose loads (~2.5 builder bags) of barn dried seasoned logs for £110
Less kittens will perish now
😋
The supplier I went to today does wood chip for biomass and kiln dried logs. The lad showed me the setup (Cos I’m nosey) They take wet green wood from wherever they can, by the lorry load. Gets processed into chips or logged and split. The wood chip is piled 1.8m depth into the dryer. Like a barn with a perforated floor. The hot air from the biomass heater is forced from the floor. You could see the depth to which it had dried out from the colour. The logs are stacked in wooden crates and put in a frame on another dryer, again heated bu the wood chip. The logs he supplies are between 3 and 8%. They light easily and give good heat quickly.
OP - I use Angus the tree man from down near Flookburgh.
I like to get my kiln dried logs delivered in a heated van and kept under hot lamps until I use them. (You can use grow lights on the lowest anti-frost setting). I don't know if it means they're more energy dense (I have GCH for heat), but I think they give off a more orangey light when I burn them in the fire pit/bbq pit outside. Actually so bright my neighbour moaned the last couple of times!