[Closed] Stop with the leg tattoos already

[i]Do you really honestly think that every tattoed person's motivation is the same?[/i]

Moley....he's given half a dozen different motivations for a person having a tattoo. So the answer is 'No'.

Please make it stop.

iolo I would recommend you step away now, you have said on here that you have had a condition and seeing shibs other stuff on here then he would take great delight in winding you up.

I don't get why the Mods haven't banned Shib,

I don't get it either. Who's in charge here?

Possibly because I've justified my opinions in a thorough fashion?

Nope, pretty sure that's not it.

Iolo on the other hand has suggested causing me grievous bodily harm

I think you'll find he's just expressing opinion.

So, you don't feel up to the task of engaging me in debate on a subject that I have perfectly justifiable opinions on, so you resort to thinly veiled threats of violence and a gang bullying mentality?

I haven't threatened you. I'd like a debate though.

molgrips - what are you doing? Just ignore the Troll and it will go away.

A mass.....

Oh well, it's getting locked anyway 🙂

Why would Shib be banned? Cos he's come up with a few undiplomatic opinions written in a calm and reasoned manner?

Do people really only come on here to agree with people or read only opinions they agree with? Seriously, the best threads are the ones that get the blood pressure rising.

Why would Shib be banned? Cos he's come up with a few undiplomatic opinions written in a calm and reasoned manner?

There we go, another of the silent majority with the balls to stick his head above the parapet... 😉

molgrips - Member

I haven't threatened you. I'd like a debate though.

You called me a bell-end. Why would I debate with someone that a) called me a bell-end, and b) will probably get a ban so won't be around to see a debate through to the end.

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More seriously,

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I'm getting really bored of this now. Shibboleth, no-one's going to be providing "interesting counter-aguments to the points you raised" because the points you've raised are such complete shit, posted purely to inflame and invoke a reaction.

You're doing the forum equivalent of standing in the middle of a pub going "you're all bastards, who wants a fight" just for the pleasure of, I don't even know, seeing someone else getting sent down when you get a glassing, or something.

You've enough warnings under your belt, mostly for exactly this sort of behaviour, to readily justify a lifetime ban. I'm a hair's breadth from doing exactly that, so for the last time ever, stop trolling of find another forum to be antisocial on.

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*applauds Cougar*

Why would Shib be banned? Cos he's come up with a few undiplomatic opinions written in a calm and reasoned manner?

He can express all the opinions he likes, you've missed the point.

Nice 8)

I don't have a tattoo and they don't bother me.

I do think it's ridiculous to make a snap judgement based on if someone does or doesn't have one.

Well done Lifer, just what the thread needed at this point 😉

😀

I think what's needed is a tattoo related poll on the front page...

😀

[i]I don't have a tattoo and they don't bother me.

I do think it's ridiculous to make a snap judgement based on if someone does or doesn't have one.[/i]

Everyone makes snap judgements about people's appearance every second of every day.

Everyone makes snap judgements about people's appearance every second of every day.

Thankfully, most people have the social skills to keep those judgements to themselves.

I think Shibboleth's arguments were actually quite weak as they were just based on his anecdotal observations from his possibly narrow mind rather than in reality or social science.

Everyone makes snap judgements about people's appearance every second of every day.

You are not wrong in general - we may go oh look at the fella with the tats, the pit bull and the stella I might cross over the road and pass the hare Krishna instead but anyone who says anyone who has a tattoo or a dog or a can of beer is all the stuff shib has said is trolling or an idiot.
its not hard to work out which one shib is

Hello, I have a tattoo, that's all.

Just wanted to join in really...... 😆

Shibboleth's arguments were

[b]opinion[/b]
[i]opinion[/i]

its not hard to work out which one shib is

Perhaps not. But given that I've just asked Shib nicely to knock it off, it's probably not cricket for everyone else to use it as a free-for-all to stick the boot in instead either.

Shall I just close this, would that be best? Or is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out?

(As I mentioned much earlier Pg1 I think) My mate has a stupid attention seeking Tattoo that I think he will regret later in life, my ex however has a small one somewhere discreet and I liked it. Both had/have their motivations in life and did no one any harm, Shib your attitude does do harm it's called discrimination; that is if you actually believe it. I've seen it in action and it's not nice.
Oh and how many people do you actually employ? I employ around 80 at the moment, many of them have tattoo's and are decent honest people. It's my opinion that you are the one being dishonest not to mention that all of the points you raise in a negative vein aginst tattoo'd people could also be applied to Trolls, i.e. attention seeking, narrow minded, niche dwellers etc etc. Keep going bigman you won't be missed when Cougar sinks his teeth into you.

A boring fact will probably just see this drop off the page.

Did you know, a group of cats is called a clowder?

That should do it.

[i]So what massive generalisation do you make about black folk ? [/i]

No one mentioned generalistions....although your example above is a good one. Clearly Shib is very outspoken but he at least did not generalise all tattooed folk in the same bracket, he created a number of them to cover most eventualities.

Obviously very offensive to anyone with a tattoo, but he sparked a lively thread to keep us all entertained for a while. My advice would be not to take this sort of thing too seriously and see it for what it is. (which a number did!)

[i]is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out? [/i]

it's still a tattoo thread...so probably not.

Perhaps not. But given that I've just asked Shib nicely to knock it off, it's probably not cricket for everyone else to use it as a free-for-all to stick the boot in instead either.

Slowly backs away from thread

Or is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out?

No - we all agree apart from Shib who just wants to shit-stir, and he's now gone anyway.

Hanzi translations are always good for a [url= http://hanzismatter.blogspot.co.uk/ ]laugh[/url] 🙂

Shibboleth - Member

I'd put money on the majority reading this and nodding in agreement. The thing with these threads is that the vocal few with tattoos fall over themselves to justify their stupidity whereas the silent majority are happy to read in silence rather than expose themselves to the rantings of the tattooed classes.

I have no tattoos (or piercings for that matter) and am in complete disagreement with you.

Junkyard - lazarus*

What about blokes with long hair eh?? (*I wouldn't hire one)

(Secret code message to see BB forum about a Welsh re-run of the ride with your lads)

ooh cheers scurries off

Ok cannot remember my password but I will post up later
I should be Ok with dates with a bit of messing around

Will be good - well planned sir

Cougar - Moderator
Shall I just close this, would that be best? Or is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out?

With respect, and in reference to your "You're all b*****ds" comment (can I report you for bad language?), I think it's you that has missed the point.

This thread was started by someone bemoaning the fact that people wore hackneyed or predictable tattoos and that they looked, well, not very original. Predictably, the thread basically turned into a bun fight between the Great Uninked and the tattooed classes.

Far from being the one flinging personal insults, calling people bell-ends, or suggesting physical violence, I've tried to stimulate reasoned debate by offering my own, well justified - albeit polarising - opinions. The fact that those opinions have caused such widespread disharmony are due to the point I raised earlier, and as a moderator, it's something you should be more acutely aware than any other: namely, that the people whose views are so diametrically opposed to those I expressed, are the only ones that have any motivation to reply!

Unfortunately, in an almost hilarious display of irony, the people that have chosen to throw their caps into this particular ring are the ones least well equipped intellectually to do so.

The result is a rather ugly slanging match, not, I might add, the fault of me, but the fault of those who seem completely unable to allow, as you put it, an actual conversation to break out.

A handful of posters have expressed their agreement with [i]some[/i] of my sentiments, and agreed that they were put across in a fairly reasoned manner. That is how a debate like this should be conducted, it's just a shame that the powers that be deem the person with the clearest argument to be a trouble maker!

I bet that for every person that posted in support of my views, there are dozens more, nodding sagely in agreement, that just don't want to get involved. Perhaps they don't want to rub the mods up the wrong way, which is a rather disappointing state of affairs.

I must point the finger at anyone who is different than myself and question their mental ability whilst trying to perpetuate this myth that I am far superior than everyone on this forum .....

I would love to see this person in the flesh ....perhaps not ...

Edit: CBA

trying to perpetuate this myth that I am far superior than everyone on this forum

Nope, just the ones that call people bell-ends or resort to daydreaming about violent retribution rather than putting together a reasoned argument.

bearnecessities - Member

Edit: CBA

+1

[i]I must point the finger at anyone who is different than myself and question their mental ability whilst trying to perpetuate this myth that I am far superior than everyone on this forum ....[/i]

Do we want'Thought Police' or Mods? Do we want a forum where people from different backgrounds and views can have reasoned and (sometimes) unseemly debate/argument. I do!

Chuckles at the lack of trolling by shib

All you want to do is to press some buttons on a number of folk to get them to bite ...no one can believe what you wrote not even you

Oh, I'll bite.

or resort to daydreaming about violent retribution rather than putting together a reasoned argument.

However, a .22 rimfire rifle works a treat, and I have no quarms whatsoever about using it to rid my property of the scourge of irresponsible, selfish twunts' cats.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/how-to-stop-cats-pooping-in-my-garden/page/3

Who's daydreaming Bear? Come and gimme a hug... 😉

No - we all agree ...

They all look stupid to me. Wear trousers if you don't want me to think "that's a stupid tat he's got". Wear shorts if you don't care that I'm going to think "that's a stupid tat he's got".

edit: and is that really a tat a few pages back? or checking that a biro works?

Shib , get out there and ride your bike you may enjoy the weather today

I must point the finger at anyone who is different than myself and question their mental ability whilst trying to perpetuate this myth that I am far superior than everyone on this forum .....

i must admit when i see most tattoos i do wonder what cognitive process they went through to reach the conclusion that it was a good idea? they are almost like a youtube vid but instead of a stunt ramp, BMX found in the shed and 8 cans of wifebeater we have somebody with a couple of hundred quid best spent elsewhere and a failed artist on the fringes of society happy to draw dolphins and faux ethnic daubings on the gullible.
the results for both are quite predictable and equally tragic with just a little bit of LOL.

Tattoos here too, started getting them later in life (30s) and they have no real meaning, i simply like a nicely done tattoo and on some women i find them quite attractive.

Some people over analyse things far too much.

Life is short, the part where you have all your faculties and physical health is anyway.
I have a mortgage and a 14 year career in my chosen field so thats the sensible stuff taken care of, i therefore do as i please in my private life and accept the consequences.

We're not here for a long time, we're here for a good time.

MrSmith sums it up rather well! Perhaps the floodgates are opening and more of the silent majority feel compelled to post their views rather than see a perfectly enjoyable debate ruined by over-zealous moderation.
Fingers crossed, eh? 😉

Voodoo, that is the plan, as soon as the uninked staff knock off at 5pm.

I've got a tattoo of Alex Salmond riding a dreadlocked platypus into Nick Griffin's house. Do I win a prize yet???

[i]a tattoo of Alex Salmond riding a dreadlocked platypus into Nick Griffin's house.[/i]

See, who said thinking people don't have a tattoo?

I'm not even Scottish!!

So if you employed someone, they turned out to be a good worker, then you subsequently found out they had a tattoo, what would you do?

So if you employed someone, they turned out to be a good worker, then you subsequently found out they had a tattoo, what would you do?

Explode??

Well, this has been fun, but if there are no intelligent, reasoned responses, I think I might knock off early... Lovely ride out from Dunsop Bridge over Whitendale, Dunsop and Beatrix Fells... 😀

So if you employed someone, they turned out to be a good worker, then you subsequently found out they had a tattoo, what would you do?

I think the gender, tattoo position and attractiveness of said employee would feature heavily in this particular equation.

http://www.inkedandsexy.com/

there you go shibster. I know you'll love these

EDIT: and the beautiful talented http://www.katvond.net/

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Shibsi baby,
How do you feel about this woman? How dare she have a tattoo? She's lost both breasts due to breast cancer and has the audacity to get inked. Some people eh?

How do you feel about this woman?

As much as I like red squirrels, I'm finding it rather difficult to get aroused by that photo... I'm more of a beaver man.

With reference to my earlier post, 5 and 6.

if there are no intelligent, reasoned responses

There are, you are ignoring them.

Anyone? No? Righteo, I'm off riding... 😉

I'm finding it rather difficult to get aroused by that photo... I'm more of a beaver man.

With that one sentence you have sumerised exactly what many think of you.
A prat who will say anything for a rise.

EDIT: and you were asking for a discussion.
Let's hope you don't get cancer.

Sorry, I didn't love those, Iolo. They sum up tattoos (and a fashion) I don't like. And there's the problem, it's a matter of personal taste. I wouldn't have employed some of the girls on that site for some of the jobs I've employed for but have no problem with less garish designs. Some I even find sexy but they aren't suitable for here.

Appearance matters. When a guy with very long hair agreed to a pony tail I employed him. When a girl said she'd work without her piercings we employed her, with the piercings.

Edit: I see the thread has come long way since I opened the window so the above is out of context (I really must resist getting distracted by more important things than STW). I hope the lady with the bikini top above has the bikini bottom to match, if so, great idea.

Would it be wrong of me to think that Shibboleth and Edukator have some sort of weird tag team thing going on?

As soon as one's 'out the ring' the other pops up 😉

Very wrong.

I did wonder that. It's not the first time.
It's like they could be the same person or something. They're not as that's not allowed here.

Shibboleth - Member

Anyone? No? Righteo, I'm off riding...
Posted 22 minutes ago

Shibboleth - Member

Very wrong.
Posted 2 minutes ago

A 20 minute bike ride Shibboleth ?

Get some tattoos, it might toughen you up.

[i]Very wrong. [/i]

oi, you went out for a bike ride 22 minutes ago, why back so soon?

Posting from the bike luvly jubly shibbly?
Mind you don't go over the bars.
Edit:too slow

I haven't got a tat, but then again in public I wouldn't wear...

jogging bottoms, string vests, Reebok Classics and a baseball cap

or

stone washed jeans that are slight too short, a brown suit, sandels with socks, flairs, or a "funny/joke" tie.

and if I was a baldie ... a Syrup

They are all.... what's the word ?? ..... errrrm ..... naff !!

Yeah NAFF !!

Tats are Naff

I'm happily married and Shib is happily unmarried, apart from that I don't think we have much in common.

Cougar - Moderator

the points you've raised are such complete shit

I'm getting COUGAR tattooed on my leg to celebrate this post. maybe with a picture of a cougar. Best mod evarz.

they both have a tattoo on their thigh. when they stand cheek to cheek it forms the shape of a couple of copulating dolphins jumping over a rainbow surrounded by a script in a celtic style of ’together forever'

I love the invocation of an unprovable silent majority as support for his point of view. Brilliant.

Surely:

So if you employed someone, they turned out to be a good worker, then you subsequently found out they had a tattoo, what would you do?

and

Well, this has been fun, but if there are no intelligent, reasoned responses, I think I might knock off early... Lovely ride out from Dunsop Bridge over Whitendale, Dunsop and Beatrix Fells

= Molgrips 1, Shib 0

I'm an old goth. I have a tat, when I have some more cash, I'll have some more. I likes them, they don't have to mean anything really. If you like them, then why not? Just in the same way I used to go out in PVC trousers and a net top. Just in the same way some folk like to parade in Rapha, or have a loaf tin haircut. Part to make a statement, regardless of whether you know exactly what that statement is, partly just because you like it.

But shib has the silent majority. .in the same way nick griffin or edl represent the silent, decent working indigenous english...all hate filled bigotry 😀

I came in on page 4, thought I'd pop in again on page 10, yes that's page ten.

Is this the longest tat thread we've had on here? £5 says it is.

Are we at wunundred yet?

You should visit Blackpool. £5 will get you a lot of tat.

^^ I've just been in Tarn, surprising what a lot of " I Luv London " tat you can get for a £5'er...

Oldgit needs to pop back in and see just what he started I recon. 😉

Get some tattoos, it might toughen you up.