[Closed] Stop with the leg tattoos already

[quote=core ]So, I thought, it's a nice sentiment, but why does everyone else need to know? I still haven't worked that out....

I wonder whether there's any correlation with people posting things to the dead on FB.

Similar thought process I think aracer... 😉

Trying to work out how my "tribal" tattoo is clichéd and standarsised rebellion when it symbolisises my family tribal heritage and cultural background. Oh well I suppose if I looked more "ethnic" it would be less of an issue...damn you great grand parents for diluting my genetics into just a sort of swarthy skin tone 😀

the dreads and mohawk were just part of being a goth though in the 80's and 90's so you got that bit right junky old bean

Oooooo scxc is it joolz or nma piece?

I'm old enough to remember when there were only two type of men (women never had them) who had tattoos; ex-Sailors and ex-Cons.

And it should've stayed that way.

Shibboleth - Member
Oh dear countzero, the spelling error you've highlighted in an attempt to discredit me was a quote from someone else! Silly billy!

In my experience, the tattooed classes typically share the following characteristics:

- A certain naïveté and badly formed sense of style and taste
- a very short-sighted attitude
- a propensity to adopt a rather immature "two-fingers" attitude to society
- a desperate need to feel part of a niche
- an alarming lack of originality and a sheep-like mentality
- high levels of narcissism and pretentiousness

I hope this answers the questions posed to me in sufficient detail and stimulates sensible debate.

In my experience, the tattooed classes typically share the following characteristics:

- A certain naïveté and badly formed sense of style and taste
- a very short-sighted attitude
- a propensity to adopt a rather immature "two-fingers" attitude to society
- a desperate need to feel part of a niche
- an alarming lack of originality and a sheep-like mentality
- high levels of narcissism and pretentiousness

I hope this answers the questions posed to me in sufficient detail and stimulates sensible debate.

I've got a leg tattoo and I'm quite normal.

I've got no tattoos at all and I'm definitely not normal.

Funny really since all my tattooed friends and colleagues share none of those characteristics.

To be fair Shibboleth did say [i]"In my experience".[/i] He might have far more tattooed acquaintances than you.

He certainly appears to have a worryingly obsessive interest in their personalities.

I lied about being normal

I've got no tattoos and always tell the truth.

I am considering the camel

I blame the porn industry.

Well, I'll be sure to show your opinion of just how unreliable people with tattoos are to my sister-in-law, as she has quite a few.

Countzero, can you talk us through which word you thought spelled "unreliable"? I'm more than happy to happy to help a literacy struggler to improve their reading.

[quote=slowoldman ]I blame the porn industry.

Is that the cause of Shibboleth?

Stop feeding the troll! He is only trying to wind you up for sport.

[i]He is only trying to wind you up for [s]sport.[/s] fapping purposes [/i]

ftfy

[i]Stop feeding the troll! He is only trying to wind you up for sport.[/i]

he's doing very well though! 🙂

Nobody has offered any credible arguments to contradict my opinions yet though... So I take it the majority largely agree with me.

Who agrees with him? I know it's troll feeding but hey ho.
I don't as he hasn't given a single bit of credible argument to this thread.

Keep reeling 'em in Shib! 😆

I have a tattoo, i may be considered thick by some, not so by others, don't see why all the tatooed folk are getting so wound up at shib, it's funny both ways- his (possibly misguided) opinion, and you lot for biting so hard.
Wonder if this can go as long as the Scottish independence thread.

Scottish Independence will be done and dusted before the end of the year. Tattoos are for life.

Blimey! He still winding the (very very sensitive and defensive) inked ones up. 😆

Shibboleth earlier…...

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I don't as he hasn't given a single bit of credible argument to this thread.

- A certain naïveté and badly formed sense of style and taste[/b]
[i]Tattoos that depict a style that the wearer has recently adopted, eg. Look at all the goth wannabes, 50's pin-up stylers, music-orientated tattoos, often on young people who have recently "discovered themselves"[/i]
[b]- a very short-sighted attitude[/b]
[i]See above - if they can't foresee that their tastes WILL change considerably over the coming years, they're VERY shortsighted.[/i]
[b]- a propensity to adopt a rather immature "two-fingers" attitude to society[/b]
[i]You only need to read the attitudes of the inked on here to understand this one - the sort of people who wear shorts/vests in winter and then get all uppity when we pass an opinion on them.[/i]
[b]- a desperate need to feel part of a niche[/b]
[i]A good example would be the born-again cyclist that I race against. He's had a bike tattooed on his arm, has Specialized stickers on his BMW... Nuff said.[/i]
[b]- an alarming lack of originality and a sheep-like mentality[/b]
[i]The inked bleat on about how original, unique, different they are, and that their tats are an expression of that individuality, and yet the overwhelming majority plagiarise other tattoos or styles in some way or another.[/i]
[b]- high levels of narcissism and pretentiousness[/b]
[i]The very act of adorning your body with your 'creative thoughts' is a narcissistic act. Don't really think that needs expanding upon any further.[/i]

So, who wants to start?

Mine is a piece of artwork that was done by a close family member who was subsequently killed in a car accident. She was a very talented artist and I miss her every day.
Which of your statements does that cover?

All... But 5 and 6 mostly.

Mine is a piece of artwork that was done by a close family member who was subsequently killed in a car accident. She was a very talented artist and I miss her every day.
Which of your statements does that cover?

this one

a desperate need to feel part of a niche

😀

Well everyone's entitled to an opinion I suppose, but opinions shouldn't be confused with facts.

Thank you all for a delightful thread.

I may have to go and get my first tattoo simply to a) ensure the enduring disdain of and b)guarantee I can never be employed by Shib.

No problem Tomkerton... These threads have a habit of weeding out the idiots. 😉

[i]I may have to go and get my first tattoo simply to a) ensure the enduring disdain of and b)guarantee I can never be employed by Shib. [/i]

I was thinking along the same lines 🙂

[i]These threads have a habit of weeding out the idiots[/i]

quiet.

[i]So I take it the majority largely agree with me.[/i]

I think the majority can't believe this thread is still going on.

I'm so punk rock that my tattoo's tattoo has its own tattoo.

This thread is apparently more interested than the threateningly doomed NHS, which in itself is interesting.

Leg tattoos? Great if you want, great if you don't, each to their own. My calves seem to have a predilection for chainring scarification, some interesting and persistent patterns are normally on show.

I'll take on your initial points, got nothing better to do today:

[b]I hate tattoos, I make no secret of it, but the thing I hate most is the self-righteous indignation of the inked when you pass an opinion on it.[/b]
You do, however, feel that it's ok to pass on your self-righteous indignation to whoever will listen regarding people with tattoos and how you feel about them? acceptable for one, but not for the other? is this because you feel that you are intellectually superior based on the fact you made a different choice in life?

[b]For god's sake, you had a tattoo as some sort of self-expression. An expression is useless if it falls on deaf ears.[/b]
If the tattoo means something to the person but never shows it off, then it's not offensive to you. If they do show it off, then surely it becomes useful?

[b]So, for the record, my opinion of all tattoos: Chavvy. Cheap, chavvy, short-sighted, foolish chaviness by attention seaking, chavvy chavs hell-bent on confrontation. [/b]
For the record, you seem to have a real problem with anyone you deem to be from a lower class than yourself. I'm guessing that you don't normally brush shoulders with these people unless you're actually trying to throw off the shackles your past in some fashion, perhaps grew up in a "chavvy" household and don't want your new friends to find out......I don't know, maybe I'm being judgmental about someone I don't know.

here are some chavvy people with tattoos

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Shibboleth - Member

In my experience

You obviously need to get out more, as any experienced person can see that yours is limited.

Chavvy. Cheap, chavvy, short-sighted, foolish chaviness by attention seaking, chavvy chavs hell-bent on confrontation.

Has it never occurred to you that labelling people as "chavs" says absolutely nothing about them, but speaks volumes about you?

Aaaaaaaargh - That tat of Dimbleby's makes my inner entomologist scream in rage - the scorpion is an arthropod within the class Arachnida, they have eight legs not six. Someone fetch a rubber....oh!

8 legs? Well I never knew that.

It's an education in itself this thread.

Shibboleth - Member
No problem Tomkerton... These threads have a habit of weeding out the idiots.

I know what you're saying.
Some people eh?
And others here are perfect in every form.
Who actually cares if you have a tatto?
It's something you wear the same as clothes.
Just make sure what you get is what you want as it ain't coming off without covering it with another or laser.
Enjoy your body. Enjoy your skin. Enjoy you. Don't give a shit about whatever someone else tells you. They are clerely insecure. The walls in their houses are magnolia and have a 9 to 5 job they hate. They would love to have an affair with the secretary but she's dobbing dave from accounts who looks like a tribal warchief.

Well some quite subtle examples there Boba Fatt and I don't think I would raise any objection to them. I mean, I thought it was pretty normal that my dad had a couple of tattoos from his army days. But a lot of the stuff on display these days is simply gross. I offer no comment on the intelligence of those who are heavily tattooed other than to say to generalise is utterly stupid.

I just don't like the look of them.

It's something you wear the same as clothes.

I think Shibboleth has had an encounter with tattoos that has scarred him in some way.
There is treatment.
If the nasty man hurt you there is therapy available.
Poor you.
Edit: show everybody on the dolly where he touched you.

At least Nigel Havers was paying attention! 🙂
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Neck tattoos on the other hand look bloody awful

Neck tattoos on the other hand look bloody awful

makes ordering a Chinese takeaway easy though, you can just point at your neck...

[i]Aaaaaaaargh - That tat of Dimbleby's makes my inner entomologist scream in rage - the scorpion is an arthropod within the class Arachnida, they have eight legs not six.[/i]

Tattoos are supposed to be scientifically accurate??

Neck tattoos on the other hand look bloody awful

DezB - Member
Tattoos are supposed to be scientifically accurate??

Just accurate would be a start. 🙂

I think the majority can't believe this thread is still going on.

I'd put money on the majority reading this and nodding in agreement. The thing with these threads is that the vocal few with tattoos fall over themselves to justify their stupidity whereas the silent majority are happy to read in silence rather than expose themselves to the rantings of the tattooed classes.

I've yet to read any compelling, eloquent or even remotely interesting counter-arguments to the points I raised a couple of pages ago.

The octopus on my leg only has 7 tentacles as adding the 8th in made the particular design look a bit messy. I'm sure this will end up upsetting some sad bastard one day 🙂

Shibboleth - Member
I think the majority can't believe this thread is still going on.
I'd put money on the majority reading this and nodding in agreement. The thing with these threads is that the vocal few with tattoos fall over themselves to justify their stupidity whereas the silent majority are happy to read in silence rather than expose themselves to the rantings of the tattooed classes.

I've yet to read any compelling, eloquent or even remotely interesting counter-arguments to the points I raised a couple of pages ago.

I suggest you stop now, take 20mg diazepam and your world will be calm again.
Try CBT. If that fails mindfullness is excellent. Let the past go and look forward to the furure. Embrace tattooed people.
What if you had a terrible off on your bike? Broken leg say (Ihope this doesn't happen by the way). The doctor fixing you has the date of birth of his still born daughter on his leg with a teddy. Based on your rantings I take it you would refuse to be treated.

Shib is the most trolly of trolls and never lets fact or truth sway him in his stance. I think he secretly is a journalist for the daily mail as his stance and arrogance fits beautifully with their closed mineded slightly right wing ideals. He is very amusing though and I would love to have a pint with him to show him the error of his ways before possibly scraping his face off with a hammer drill just for fun

The thing with these threads is that the vocal few with tattoos fall over themselves to justify their stupidity

The thing with these threads is that you are a complete bell end. If you want a serious discussion, stop raising such idiotic arguments.

Do you really honestly think that every tattoed person's motivation is the same?

I'll video it Tazz.
Better still we could give him tattoos. A few swans on his neck, tear drop beneath his eye, swastika on the forehead and a full sleeve of his left arm depicting an enormous penis.

OK, game's up Hopkins, time to reveal your true identity... [IMG] [/IMG]

3....tattoo....1...

I don't get why the Mods haven't banned Shib, he's on a par with TJ.....

Hopkins,
The only woman I would gladly punch. Over and over and over......

punching is still feeding. As is this, gaaaah do we EVER learn?

Mods must be sitting outside for their lunch.

I don't get why the Mods haven't banned Shib, he's on a par with TJ.....

Possibly because I've justified my opinions in a thorough fashion?

Iolo on the other hand has suggested causing me grievous bodily harm and is now bragging that he'd happily assault a woman! Classy.

It's a good job I don't judge all tattooed people on the basis of iolo's shortcomings as a human being. 🙄

To be fair, I've not come across anyone so intent on being disliked by so many. And revelling in it too. It's almost admirable for its steadfastness.

On a serious note, to be that sociopathic in real life would be a worrying trait - and I doubt Shibby's really like this. Wanting others to think that of you is pretty worrying too. All in all, an interesting case study for a university psychology student working on a paper on the Gyges Effect.

Shib, answer my question. I'll have a proper debate with you if that's what you want.

[i]It's a good job I don't judge all tattooed people on the basis of iolo's shortcomings as a human being.[/i]

I'm just hoping the tattoo'd don't use you as a basis for judging the rest of us that don't have them...

I only suggested videoing the bodily harm. It's the tattooing I would do.
I'm a bloody awful artist.
I stand by beating Katie Hopkins.Vile excuse for a human being. It's not hitting her for being a woman. It's hitting her for the evil crap that comes out of her mouth while trying to keep her moral values. Those values that were shown in the press having sex with a married man in the park.

Shib, answer my question. I'll have a proper debate with you if that's what you want.

You just called me a bell-end, why would I debate with a semi-literate, intellectually compromised little chav*.

*In my experience.

Malvern Rider - Member
punching is still feeding. As is this, gaaaah do we EVER learn?

😀

iolo - Member
It's hitting her for the evil crap that comes out of her mouth while trying to keep her moral values.

Thank you for clarifying why you think it's acceptable to break the law in such a cowardly fashion.

Good god there is a load of toolage on display here...
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I've got a tattoo. I don't care.

molgrips - Member
Stop feeding the troll! He is only trying to wind you up for sport.

molgrips - Member
Shib, answer my question. I'll have a proper debate with you if that's what you want

Listen to yourself, man!

You just called me a bell-end, why would I debate with a semi-literate, intellectually compromised little chav*.

If you're so much cleverer than me you'll win, won't you? And we'll all know how great you are.

Hang on I've got it...
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Personal insults and implied threats of violence? Folk have taken an enforced sabbatical for much less.
Just sayin' like...

And we'll all know how great you are

He's the new messiah mol.

Oh hail thee Shibboleth. We worship thee. You are the almighty being. Please accept our first borns.

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So, you don't feel up to the task of engaging me in debate on a subject that I have perfectly justifiable opinions on, so you resort to thinly veiled threats of violence and a gang bullying mentality?

My views on the tattooed classes is dipping even lower. Who'd have thought that was possible...