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KJT has for years been the high profile Jess Ennis understudy and this year she smashed it (I'm aware the Belgian was injured). Lewis will win it I think. What do you think?
Biggest pile of poop ever that programme, but I’d back Lewis for his Eco stance
Dina Asher Smith will, rightly, be in with a shout too I'd think.
Lewis FTW.
Stokes. He provided Roy of the Rovers style impossible storybook moments of individual heroics in a team sport environment. The others have been more drip feed brilliant (or quite good) and that does not sell as well with the general public.
but I’d back Lewis for his Eco stance
🙂
Yeah - he's smashing the system from within, alright. I hear he's got an allotment now
How about Fury ??
Stokes put in an innings for the ages but I reckon failing to win the Ashes takes quite a lot of impact away, at least for these sort of awards.
I thought Stokes was a thug, happy to be proved otherwise.
Both of Stokes’ innings were extraordinary, elevating him to Bothamesque levels of reverence. As for losing the Ashes, he did more than anyone else in that team to prevent them going back to Oz.
Stokes gets my vote some outstanding innings there that turned things around. I’m not sure I’ll see a match like those again.
Stokes - should he be disqualified for his thuggery? Or lauded for turning it around and recognizing what an idiot he was?
For me he should never have played for England again - nor Hales
Courts and ECB disagree.
Indeed they do
Its just my opinion. ECB could have used the civil case standard of proof to deal with him but they did not and as I said there is a case to make that he did indeed turn his life around.
Kicking a man on the ground for me disqualifies him. Others may differ.
Dina Asha Smith should win it. But this is the BBC of course so I imagine it’ll be Stokes.
Lewis can’t win it, he pays a licence fee to Monte Carlo TV.
Stokes for me.
Although, it's a shit show and I never watch it.
Asha Smith deserves it most imo, but suspect Stokes will get it
it’s a shit show
Yet here we all are implying why. Likely to be won by a chap that did one excellent thing once in a series we didn’t win, despite a record of thuggery because he’s white and middle-ish class.
Likely to be won by a chap that did one excellent thing once in a series we didn’t win,
I'm guessing you are referring to the drawn ashes series (most think we lost it because they got to keep the urn). He did play a rather pivotal part in winning the world cup too.
I'm no Stokes fan as a person but it is hard to underestimate the impact he has had on his sport this year.
Does not pass the Froome Brit test mind.
Asher-Smith only works for 21.88 seconds, Stokes plays for five days, why is this even a question?
Probably be Stokes for those innings against Oz.
Won't be Lewis even though he is the winningest British F1 driver who happens to live abroad.
Likely to be won by a chap that did one excellent thing once in a series we didn’t win, despite a record of thuggery because he’s white and middle-ish class.
You’re obviously not talking about Stokes.
for those innings against Oz.
One was against NZ, but they are all the same right. Kiwis like it when you say that I find.
You’re obviously not talking about Stokes.
Calling Stokes middle class is a bit of a stretch, especially after the revelations about his family background came out over the summer.
parking at the venue is joke, any winners will have to do acceptance speech via video call from traffic jam
Clearly a few people on here who only know a fraction of what stokes did during the summer. The world cup final was watched by countless non cricket fans also, even if they only tuned in for the last 2 hours it literally went viral and was sport at its finest.
In sporting achievement Stoked has nothing on Lewis Hamilton, and Lewis Hamiltons portrays a far more positive sporting associated image.
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">But we all know that Lewis wont win for political reasons, dont we, is my point. </span>
Yeah, I 'd like it to be the cricket bloke too.
For the simple reason:
Me and my mates were sitting on our sailing club beach admiring the awesome weather, the families enjoying splashing in/out of the sea, kids sailing up and down the lagoon, a few folks heading back from the bar with pints and our little lot listening tot he radio TMS...
And people who we'd never seen before were asking "how's it going?" "sounds like we might loose it all" and "ahhh typical Gurland performance" etc.etc.
Then that last hit, and literally the beach exploded with jumps of joy and people flinging their arms around and yelping...
It was an astonishing reaction..
And who knew so many people were huddled under beach breaks listening to TMS?
Brilliant day.
Lewis FTW.
Jay Ajayi for his comeback after ACL surgery
Sky Brown, 11 years old and going to the Olympics
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/47523698
Maybe celebrate the up and comers for a change.
It was an astonishing reaction..
Agreed. If the award was to be given to the sports person that has most 'stirred the sporting sole' of the nation this year (and I don't see why it should not) I can see him as the obvious choice. Asher Smith's gold was a real break through for Britain (and her) and Hamilton's 6th title is also astonishingly impressive but they hardly generated water cooler moments. If your water cooler was in Wales you could argue that Alun Wyn Jones' effort in the 6 nations would have generated some serious chat but he did not generate an individual stand out moment of quite the same magnitude to quite so many. Cricket World Cup final being on terrestrial Tv (albeit not BBC) will also sway the result too.
lewis ftw.
Asher-Smith only works for 21.88 seconds, Stokes plays for five days, why is this even a question?
Anything that stops for tea, lunch and rain is a bit of a joke, really.
Stokes for me all day.
Might have been justified for the World Cup performance but to follow that up with what he did in the Headingly test match puts it beyond doubt.
If it came down to a totally open choice I'd say Jasmin Paris was the most impressive single sporting feat I've heard of this year. However the "wee" sports never really get more than a patronising mention.
Of the six chosen though I'd say Stokes is the most likely to win. Though admittedly three of the six I'd never even heard of so mine isn't necessarily the most informed opinion.
Clearly a few people on here who only know a fraction of what stokes did during the summer. The world cup final was watched by countless non cricket fans also, even if they only tuned in for the last 2 hours it literally went viral and was sport at its finest.
IIRC 21 million people watched these highlights within 24hrs or so. It really did go beyond the normal reaches of the cricket world.
That alone would have put Stokes in pole position. What he did a few weeks later at Headingley elevated him even further. That 135no was absolutely stratospheric. Sure, he swashbuckled his way over the line in the last few overs and the whole script was just insane. But he opted to fight his aggressive instinct when he first went to the crease to protect his wicket. He made the impossible possible.
So probably between a cricket player and a car driver. Great. I'll avoid.
I'm never sure whether it should go to a sportsperson with personality or a personality with sporting prowess.
Raheem Sterling gets my vote - won four trophies last year and became a real figurehead against racism in sport. He will not win it because of the stupid hysteria about the Gomez incident. That should never have got out and the way in which Sterling was cast as the villain when Liverpool players had been trying to deliberately injure him and his team mates by pushing them into advertising hoardings left a very bad taste.
Lewis, not sure any of the others are potentially the GOAT in their given field, Lewis is.
F1 is even worse than cricket. At least cricketers have to actually get off their arses.
the sports person that has most ‘stirred the sporting sole’ of the nation this year
I agree - he's a shoe-in for the award.
Katarina Johnson-Thomson or Dina Asher Smith deserves it imo.
So probably between a cricket player and a car driver. Great. I’ll avoid.
Well, TBH I don't think I'll watch it either. It's not the achievements that I'm not keen on.. It's all the fawning and presentation of it all.. Makes me feel dirty watching it.
I agree – he’s a shoe-in for the award.
I'm glad at least someone spotted my spelling gaff. It wouldn't be stw if you got away with it. 🙂
Well, TBH I don’t think I’ll watch it either. It’s not the achievements that I’m not keen on.. It’s all the fawning and presentation of it all.. Makes me feel dirty watching it.
Yup me too it’s utter garbage.
But we all know that Lewis wont win for political reasons, dont we, is my point.
Also garbage.
As long as Lewis Hamilton doesn't win then I'm all good. An odious man who's success is 95% down to the car he drives.
"Courts and ECB disagree."
The court declined to hear charges of assault because the CPS didn't get their act together early enough so it didn't express an opinion either way.
But we all know that Lewis wont win for political reasons, dont we, is my point.
Also garbage.
Maybe check your facts. Its a well know understanding he'll never win SPOTY nor get an OBE while he lives abroad and avoids UK taxation.
He's not helped in the voting stakes though as his personality and projection appears to be divisive to the average BBC viewer, albeit is very modern and positive in the up & coming world.
Maybe check your facts. Its a well know understanding he’ll never win SPOTY nor get an OBE while he lives abroad and avoids UK taxation.
The fact that he has already won SPOTY suggests otherwise
tpbiker
As long as Lewis Hamilton doesn’t win then I’m all good. An odious man who’s success is 95% down to the car he drives.
You don't know anything about it.
The fact that he has already won SPOTY suggests otherwise
So he did, I do apologise and am eating my words as I type, I was clearly wrong.
Maybe check your facts. Its a well know understanding he’ll never win SPOTY nor get an OBE while he lives abroad and avoids UK taxation.
The fact that he has already won SPOTY suggests otherwise
😂😂😂😂😂
Usually Beckham that wins this tosh anyway isn't it?😆
So he did, I do apologise and am eating my words as I type, I was clearly wrong.
Apology accepted.
The court declined to hear charges of assault because the CPS didn’t get their act together early enough so it didn’t express an opinion either way.
It went to court ran several days and he was found not guilty.
Its a well know understanding he’ll never win SPOTY nor get an OBE while he lives abroad and avoids UK taxation.
The fact that he has already won SPOTY suggests otherwise
Whilst we are at it - got his OBE back in 2008 too.
When someone has become a master of their chosen field, they make it look so utterly easy don’t they?
Now what’s that saying...? People are like arseholes, everyone’s got an opinion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"It went to court ran several days and he was found not guilty."
Yes. Of affray. The CPS wanted to try for assault but weren't allowed to. Being acquitted of affray doesn't mean he wasn't a thug and nor does it mean he didn't break someone's eye and give someone else concussion.
The ECB, by the way, did find them guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.
Ah! Sorry Ajaj mistood.
Yes they did but decided not to ban him.
Asher-Smith only works for 21.88 seconds
She definitely deserves it then if she achieve that much without doing all the hours of training the other athletes do 😉
I do apologise and am eating my words as I type, I was clearly wrong
I don't think I've ever seen somebody write anything quite like that on here before 😱
They did ban him effectively - but it was backdated to include the time he spent out of the team awaiting trial which included missing a lot of games
Stokes is interesting on this as I alluded to above
He has turned himself around, he has had counselling and anger management training and is now a better person. On balance I don't think he should be up for it because of his past thuggery but perhaps he should be allowed redemption for accepting he had an issue and getting help with it.
He did this in a fairly quiet way. I would have preferred a public expression of shame and some reparations but then we have seen too many celebs make insincere public apologies.
Mrs TJ who is a big cricket fan is on the side of " he has done enough to redeem himself". Me I wanted to see more public contrition. before he is rehabilitated
Seems fair TJ but I agree with your Mrs.
A clean win for cricket.
Is it over yet? I want to watch His Dark Materials
Thank God that's over. Some of us are waiting for His Dark Materials.
It might be on now but I switched over as it’s crap.
First Blood is on ITV 4
he was by far and away the best candidate. Higgins, Best, Cantona all flawed genius' etc etc but damn good at what they did/do.
Days of being whiter than white are long gone im afraid.
Lewis Hamilton couldn’t even be arsed to attend - video link from a party in his house instead.
Lucy Bronze flew in from Lyon just to interview for 2 minutes.
Cricket? How very droll. 😂
tpbiker
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As long as Lewis Hamilton doesn’t win then I’m all good. An odious man who’s success is 95% down to the car he drives.
So you know him personally do you?
You obviously know nothing about motorsport, so I'm guessing no.
JP
The two Ben Stokes moments of this year are probably in my top 3 greatest sporting moments of all time. The other one is Danny Harts first world championship win.
It was unbelievable which is why they were clear winners rather than one goal in a football match.
The ECB, by the way, did find them guilty of bringing the game into disrepute.
That's no proof of criminal activity. You can criticise the officials and get found guilty of that. Being involved in an incident outside a nightclub clearly casts a poor light on the sport and validates a disrepute charge, the courts decide if it was a criminal act.
He strikes me as being a fantastic player and a great competitor, and yes maybe a flawed human. His achievements are not degraded for that......
I enjoyed Dennis Law's contribution.
Did anybody notice Gary Lineker introduce Ben Stokes as 'main award winner' about 40 minutes before the voting opened?
Yes everyone watching it did.
The only bit I saw was the Doddie Weir bit, which was probably the only bit worth watching.
As long as Lewis Hamilton doesn’t win then I’m all good. An odious man who’s success is 95% down to the car he drives
Yeah I agree, an average driver at best. Nothing down to having an immense skill and understanding of the dynamics and set-up of the car, an ability to consistently deliver time after time and keep his cool when things are not always going as planned and still get valuable points. Anyone could do that shit.
And, from where I am sitting, he generally comes across as a genuinely nice person.
So you know him personally do you?
You obviously know nothing about motorsport, so I’m guessing no
remind me how many championships he won when vettel had the best car...
Nope never met him..but he comes across as a total nobber imo..plenty of negative stories about him if you care to look, and his hypocrisy over climate change further got my back up..
But most of all he's a greedy tax dodger
As for not knowing much about f1. Again you are correct, as it's the dullest sport known to man. Sure he's good, but I guarantee he wouldn't win the championship in a mid grid car..so I stand by my point.
Sure he’s good, but I guarantee he wouldn’t win the championship in a mid grid car..so I stand by my point.
Sergio Agüero wouldn't have won the Premiership if he played for a mid-table team. Your point is?