Spineless!
 

  You don't need to be an 'investor' to invest in Singletrack: 6 days left: 95% of target - Find out more

[Closed] Spineless!

84 Posts
36 Users
0 Reactions
146 Views
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

So just get a call from someone I know at the local council.
"We've had a complaint about your foreign vehicle being illegally parked and preventing them getting their car and caravan on the drive...,,"
Really? Says I.
"Afraid so, is it where it usually is?"
Yep, says I.
"Well then don't worry about it as it's not and there's no issue but if it's convenient would you mind perhaps moving it oh ... say 10ft....? Just so we aren't having to waste time on the computer, etc wasting time."
Of course says I - but it'll be Saturday when I'm back.
"That's fine,we just have far more pressing things to deal with than someone who has now called four times this morning, thanks"
Now considering there is a blanket ban on caravans, motor homes and commercial vehicles on the deeds - said complainer needs to be careful as mentioned by the caller.
The fact there is only one house that brings their caravan into the close, taking up three spaces and increasing the already awkward access, also means I know which door to knock tomorrow when I'm back considering they don't have the balls to actually knock mine instead of causing unnecessary grief.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 10:57 am
Posts: 17273
Free Member
 

You should strip to the waist* and fight like men.

*waist up. obvs.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 10:59 am
Posts: 13240
Free Member
 

The fact there is only one house that brings their caravan into the close, taking up three spaces and increasing the already awkward access, also means I know [s]which door to knock tomorrow[/s] what to do when I'm back.

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:00 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Tempting to both suggestions.....

However their face and backtracking will be fun enough.
Said muppet has already crossed enough residents already with his and his wife's ignorance, poor parking, etc


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:02 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

People are racist about cars now??


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:05 am
Posts: 56564
Full Member
 

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:08 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I know which door to knock tomorrow when I'm back

Thought you weren't back till Saturday 🙂 . Park it across their driveway.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:09 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I is confused - is your foreign vehicle illegally parked, and what has it to do with the council either way?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:11 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Bloody brexit


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:12 am
Posts: 8392
Full Member
 

A [b][i][u]Foreign[/b][/i][/u] vehicle?

Like a Peugeot/Mazda/Ford/BMW/Audi/VW/ etc etc.

These are Local car parking spaces for Local people.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:19 am
Posts: 10333
Full Member
 

I've got a Seat and a Ford. I park the Seat on my drive and the Ford on the street. I might do it the other way round and see if there's any car racists on my street.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:22 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Is ford not foreign then?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:24 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

What has it being foreign got do with the price of fish???


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:24 am
Posts: 10333
Full Member
 

Is ford not foreign then?

Spose it's american innit but if you watch the news you'd think that was part of this country anyway.
Reckon the racists won't mind Ford.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:27 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

What colour is your Spanish Seat?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:28 am
Posts: 10333
Full Member
 

Black!!


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:29 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I think you mean negra.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:30 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

So in summary, OP will speak to his neighbour tomorrow. Truly gripping stuff.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:30 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

Eh, I thought there was gonna be a fight?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:33 am
 aP
Posts: 681
Free Member
 

Carma innit?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:34 am
 nbt
Posts: 12381
Full Member
 

[s]Carma[/s] [b][i]Carmen[/i][/b] innit?

FTFY

[img] ?itok=SB0A-AeR[/img]


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:39 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Surely STW can get three pages of escalation out of this before the OP ends up so worked up that he owns the neighbours with a set of Bombers?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:47 am
Posts: 12467
Full Member
 

Reckon the racists won't mind Ford.

With Ford's record of airbrushing out black faces and replacing with white guys? How could they possibly mind?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:49 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I could Fiat my caravan in a gap Alfa the size


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:53 am
Posts: 6603
Free Member
 

I need a satellite image to better understand and get worked up about the situation.

Maybe we should all chip in to hire a nice big skip?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:54 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Have we established yet what nationality the caravan is?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:54 am
Posts: 10333
Full Member
 

I could Fiat my caravan in a gap Alfa the size

If it's a bit tight you could give it a Porsche!!


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:54 am
Posts: 50252
Free Member
 

I got a ban for using the second word in the title of this thread.

Sorry I don't have anything more interesting to add.

*Edit - I see it's changed...! 😆 I didn't report it, by the way.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:55 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I need a satellite image to better understand and get worked up about the situation.

I'll send you his address and you can pop round and have a look at his battered FOREIGN nissan x-trail blocking the street 🙂


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 11:59 am
Posts: 953
Full Member
 

Coke and hookers, not relevant but it'll pad out the topic nicely until tomorrow.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:02 pm
Posts: 10340
Full Member
 

Now considering there is a blanket ban on caravans, motor homes and commercial vehicles on the deeds
Is this a thing?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:04 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[quote=CaptainFlashheart ]Sorry I don't have anything more interesting to add.

You're probably still winning the thread at this point

*Edit - I see it's changed...! I didn't report it, by the way.

Not in the URL...


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:05 pm
Posts: 50252
Free Member
 

You're probably still winning the thread at this point

😆


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:09 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

Is this a thing?

I've heard of this on some modern estates - bans on sign-written vans, keeping poultry, hanging out washing and the like. They like everyone to be neat little conformists, living lives of quiet desperation.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:11 pm
Posts: 91000
Free Member
 

There's a ban on keeping caravans in the deeds of my house. I still have a caravan here. From what I can tell, there's no-one that can actually enforce such a thing, so balls to it.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:14 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I've heard of this on some modern estates - bans on sign-written vans, keeping poultry, hanging out washing and the like. They like everyone to be neat little conformists, living lives of quiet desperation.

It's just the 'rules' on new estates, (apart from the hanging out the washing thing) no one would ever enforce them.

Who are 'they' and what is so non-conformist about having a 'sign written van'? 'Look at me in my company van sticking it to the man',


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:16 pm
Posts: 8247
Free Member
 

living lives of quiet desperation.

I'm chuckling at that.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:18 pm
Posts: 77347
Free Member
 

I got a ban for using the second word in the title of this thread.

No you didn't.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:18 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

So what word did he get banned for?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:19 pm
Posts: 50252
Free Member
 

Must have been a deletion and/or warning then.

I hope this is improving my contribution to the thread.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:22 pm
Posts: 953
Full Member
 

My deeds ban left hand drive cars because we live down a one way street.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:23 pm
Posts: 41642
Free Member
 

There's a ban on keeping caravans in the deeds of my house. I still have a caravan here. From what I can tell, there's no-one that can actually enforce such a thing, so balls to it.

Strictly it should/would be enforced by anyone who thinks they're suffering as a result, i.e. your neighbours, through the civil courts. You can ask them if you can have it removed from the deeds, you just have to pay the legal fees.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:24 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

It's just the 'rules' on new estates, (apart from the hanging out the washing thing) no one would ever enforce them.

Who are 'they' and what is so non-conformist about having a 'sign written van'? 'Look at me in my company van sticking it to the man',

"They" are the developers and they market to Audi-driving IT consultants by keeping the riff-raff out.

What car do you drive?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:28 pm
Posts: 77347
Free Member
 

So what word did he get banned for?

I've no idea what CFH is referring to.

He may have got a ban for persistently using problematic language when asked not to, or using it as part of an insult (which would be unlikely unless it was a particularly nasty attack or it wasn't a first offence). But there's no way anyone got banned ever for merely "using a word," not whilst I've got a hole in my arse.

Must have been a deletion and/or warning then.

That would seem far more plausible. It's not something I'd have moderated personally, but someone might've objected to it I suppose.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

What car do you drive?

Honda Accord Tourer (about to be traded in for a new ford focus estate)
Suzuki Swift
Citroen 2CV

You? Although I presume you don't have one as that wouldn't suit your off grid stick it to the man lifestyle.

"They" are the developers and they market to Audi-driving IT consultants by keeping the riff-raff out.

It's just normal people that live on new estates you know. I live in a newish estate - neighbours do the following jobs - 2*Nurse practitioners (have a motorhome), guy with maintenance company (has a works van and a CARAVAN), couple that own a chineese restaurant, someone who works in the tax office, policewoman, hgv machanic.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:36 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

You? Although I presume you don't have one as that wouldn't suit your off grid stick it to the man lifestyle.

You do appear to be a little bit sensitive. I was joking about the dull conformity and quiet desperation thing, but it seems I hit home. Anyway, instead of arguing on here with me, shouldn't you be on washing line patrol? Don't forget your clipboard.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:42 pm
Posts: 8247
Free Member
 

akira - Member
My deeds ban left hand drive cars because we live down a one way street.

I never used to have a problem with one-way streets in my LHD car!


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:44 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Not at all, because people don't fit into your 'vision' you've invoked the edinburgh defence.

So what car do you drive?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:45 pm
Posts: 7670
Free Member
 

Cougar - Moderator
I got a ban for using the second word in the title of this thread.
No you didn't.

Trumpy's right: FAKE NEWS! Captain big bolleaux, guilty as charged. Get to your room and no pudding/happy endings for you. 🙂


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:49 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

Not at all, because people don't fit into your 'vision' you've invoked the edinburgh defence.

So what car do you drive?

Yes, it's quite obvious that you're not at all sensitive, what with your continual edits and shouty capitals. If you're perfectly happy with your Barratts noddy box, then there's really no need to keep justifying yourself to me.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:51 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I'm not perfectly happy, I'm incredibly happy, I have an amazing family and a wonderful life. I have all the money I'll ever need and am incredibly fulfilled.

I wonder what kind of skoda you drive?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:54 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

I'm perfectly happy, I'm incredibly happy, I have an amazing family and a wonderful life. I have all the money I'll ever need and am incredibly fulfilled.

I wonder what kind of skoda you drive?

I'm delighted for you. Now, if you work a bit harder, you'll be able to trade in that Honda for an Audi, and your life will be complete.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:55 pm
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

It's not what he said, it's how he said it.

[i] keeping poultry, hanging out washing and the like.[/i]

My old road was like this - no rotary lines, no fences, etc... you should see it now (erm, 30 years later), big ugly reed fences, gardens full of crap, washing lines everywhere. It does look a bloody state mind.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:56 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

My life couldn't be more complete than it is right now. You aspire to an audi though as you seem obsessed by them.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:56 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

You lot are a bit sensitive today - did somebody park a foreign car in your way?


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:59 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Don't ruin it yunki


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 12:59 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

My life couldn't be more complete than it is right now.

So you keep saying. And I believe you.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:01 pm
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]You lot are a bit sensitive today - did somebody park a foreign car in your way?[/i]

No, he's incredibly happy. Can't you tell? 🙂


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:03 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

No, he's incredibly happy. Can't you tell?

😀

He's buoyed by the discovery that one of his neighbours failed to paint their fence in the regulation colour.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:07 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I'm annoying my neighbours by having a messy looking house without breaking any of the covenants on our deeds.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:10 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

The ban is specifically to stop people taking up space with vehicles/caravans that sit there for months at a time without moving and taking up space that others may use.
Every house has a driveway and/or garage however currently there isn't a single one that only has one vehicle.
One in particular has 6 - three of which are commercials as they operate a building company from their house - with their employees parking in the close each morning to go to work. Another thing specifically prohibited on the deeds.
As for enforcement - it's legally enforceable here due to the way the deeds/purchasing was done. One motor home was moved in the last few months due to the covenants.
As for my "foreign vehicle" - it's the car I keep at the house in Italy. Drove it back recently full of kit with the return trip taking out stuff that will stay there permanently.
Now not happening until at least January unfortunately.
The car however won't be staying there - it's going into storage or for sale yet has been parked in its current position for all of three days! He's already reported it once as abandoned a few weeks back because it hadn't moved for 5 days. Council were happy then it was fine and parked spot on, yet it's fine for him to park his 20+ft caravan across the front of 3 properties for months, hooked up to a trailing lead in the road....
Bloke is a prize bell end - I'd use t*unt but someone seems to have already seen fit to edit the thread title for some reason.

I'm back tomorrow but as far as the council are concerned it's Saturday and I have no intention of moving my perfectly legally parked vehicle until then - might even be Sunday... or Monday....


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:21 pm
Posts: 1693
Free Member
 

Steering (see what I did there) back towards the topic.
The op referred to his foreign car, I'm assuming he has a foreign registered car in which case there are rules against keeping such a vehicle on UK roads for more than 6 months in a 12 month period. If his neighbour is aware of this, he may decide to make life difficult as the car will have to be re-registered.
A chap we know living in Cataluña visited family in Leicester twice in a year, each time staying a couple of weeks. On the second visit, his Spanish registered car was towed away and he had to pay to reclaim it. He had to prove that he'd been back to Spain in the intervening period in order to get the fine overturned. Conversely, we have friends who've lived here several years, driving UK registered cars with no hassle.
Edit, op's explanation answers all.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:24 pm
Posts: 16025
Free Member
 

He's already reported it once as abandoned a few weeks back because it hadn't moved for 5 days.

Years back, I had this. I was keeping my girlfriend's car at my place because she had broken her collarbone, and I hadn't moved it for a whole week. I was renting on one of "those" estates at the time and it seems I fell foul of some petty rule.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:28 pm
Posts: 30656
Free Member
 

living lives of quiet desperation.

STW motto.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:29 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

It's been in the country lees than 3mths so let's not try that one.
I'm fully aware of the "rules" on foreign vehicles. All the documents, toll receipts, ferry, etc are in a folder in my safe ready to either go back with it or with the new owner if it goes.
Well aware too of the ways to avoid ITV, matriculation, etc.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:33 pm
 Nico
Posts: 4
Free Member
 

Shirley the mention of foreign car (meaning one with foreign plates, rather than not a Wolsely) is purely to identify the car? Too simple?

My lease bans me from having more than one piano, and the feet must be on some kind of isolator. That'll all change when I buy my gite in Brittany/Skye/Deauville.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:34 pm
Posts: 77347
Free Member
 

Do these "petty rules" on estates have any meaningful legal status?

I mean, it's easy enough to write restrictions into house deeds, but unless the restrictions are clearly signposted then how would the rest of the world know they existed? I don't think I've ever seen a "left-hand drive vehicles prohibited" sign.

Well aware too of the ways to avoid ITV, matriculation, etc.

I bet you don't even have a television licence.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:38 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Do these "petty rules" on estates have any meaningful legal status?

No idea and I don't know what the rules are on the estate I live on, but they're probably just standard. I know there's a no rotary drier policy on the rental flats I have but they all have shared gardens so you can understand that and I guess with non designated parking being limited then people might feel the need to try to enforce rules if for example a caravan is taking one up.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:58 pm
Posts: 953
Full Member
 

Shirley the mention of foreign car (meaning one with foreign plates, rather than not a Wolsely) is purely to identify the car? Too simple?
if only cars had some identifying plate on them to make them easy to differentiate.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 2:03 pm
Posts: 1693
Free Member
 

I don't think I've ever seen a "left-hand drive vehicles prohibited" sign.

Ahh but Farage isn't PM,yet.
Hammy, wasn't sure if you knew the rules and our posts crossed, we weren't when we moved to Spain 2 years ago.


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 2:07 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

12yrs in Spain bud - ex used to run a business specifically helping new residents apply for residencia, importing belongings, matriculation, car purchases , etc.
Aware of the rules here too as ended up selling my 90 back to the dealer for more than I bought it for before moving back and using the money to start again as it was easier. (That and oissing off the head of Guy Salmon opposite the LR factory at the time by being able to order a Spanish spec, rhd, SW delivered in the uk for less than he could apparently buy the commercial - walked out without buying a thing due to his attitude)


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 3:50 pm
Posts: 13554
Free Member
 

The car however won't be staying there - it's going into storage or for sale yet has been parked in its current position for all of three days!

Best
Stealth
Ad
Ever


 
Posted : 14/09/2017 6:27 pm
Posts: 7362
Free Member
 

Best
Stealth
Ad
Ever

Yeah I'd be proud of that one !! :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 7:36 am
Posts: 11522
Full Member
 

Wow, spookily relevant Mash article yesterday...

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/middle-class-familys-showing-off-enters-getting-some-chickens-phase-20170914135714 ]Chickens and Audis[/url]

We're in a Barratt new build estate, and I did wonder about the eonforceability of some of these rules, particularly the chickens one...


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 8:02 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Is reversing a LHD car up a one way street allowed?


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 8:20 am
Posts: 953
Full Member
 

Only clockwise.


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 8:22 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I need to know, has the OP spoken to his neighbour about the chicken van? I mean that's what I am guessing this thread is about?.


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 9:41 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

On the second visit, his Spanish registered car was towed away and he had to pay to reclaim it. He had to prove that he'd been back to Spain in the intervening period in order to get the fine overturned.

Not sure about that. There's this pesky thing about burden of proof falling on the accuser...


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 12:24 pm
Posts: 91000
Free Member
 

Do these "petty rules" on estates have any meaningful legal status?

Read about this last night. Apparently someone who is affected by you breaking the covenant can 'sue' you. But it's costly, so extremely rare.

Someone could sue us for having a caravan on our driveway, but it'd be a bit pointless, since our street is full of so many cars it reminds me of those post-flood scenes with cars all over the place:

[img] [/img]

Every house has a garage and at least one space in the drive way. Some good people put one car in the garage and one on the drive; some have even widened the driveway to get two on. The annoying buggers however have either converted the garage and then park the second car on the road; can't be bothered to put one car in the garage so then park on the road; or even worse they have two car length driveways but can't even be bothered to shuffle their cars so one is on the road.


 
Posted : 15/09/2017 1:18 pm
Page 1 / 2

6 DAYS LEFT
We are currently at 95% of our target!