[Closed] Speeding penalty points

Times journo in speeding shock:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/news/article1870320.ece

What anyone does is their own business (obviously except on STW...) but this is a fairly likely scenario in the event of owning up.

They make a habit of getting out of it around here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1538370.stm

Oh come on, that story is over 10 years old! If that is the most recent you can find they are hardly [i]making a habit of it[/i].

Oh come on, that story is over 10 years old! If that is the most recent you can find they are hardly making a habit of it.

I wasn't really searching, it was linked to the other one

I actually remember it too

pistonbroke - Member
Re the possibility of not losing your licence due to pleading exceptional hardship. I know from personal experience that exceptional hardship defence will not work unless you can prove the hardship relates to other innocent parties, i.e if your wife's ability to drive is essential to providing care or financial support to others. Simply losing her job if she doesn't have a licence is not sufficient as the hardship will only be to herself.

......it does work and it's at the discretion of the magistrate. My best mate requested a hearing, represented himself after taking advice , has no family or dependants and escaped a ban.That was 4 months ago.

The police will also have alarm bells ringing when they get another "it wasnt me driving" letter from someone who is on 9 points.

Serious criminal offence and cant see that anyone in their right mind would run the risk of a custodial sentance.

The police will also have alarm bells ringing when they get another "it wasnt me driving" letter from someone who is on 9 points.

Given the enormous amount of penalties issues do you really think the police actually see the returned forms let alone read them?

Given the enormous amount of penalties issues do you really think the police actually see the returned forms let alone read them?

they have a computer that will highlight such things.

they have a computer that will highlight such things.

well if the figure of 750,000 people that have swapped points is correct, it could probably do with a reboot

well if the figure of 750,000 people that have swapped points is correct, it could probably do with a reboot

I hope he gets away with it and is laughing all the way to the bedroom

I hope he gets away with it and is laughing all the way to the bedroom

yes so yet another dangerous driver can endanger peoples lives so they can get to work 5 min faster

I hope he gets away with it and is laughing all the way to the bedroom

😀

Once it's all done and dusted I'd get a laptop and projector set-up in the bedroom and get all the hand-wringing from this thread plastered all over the walls while I was "collecting my fee". Between moans of pleasure I'd chuckle at all the pent up frustration.

Afterwards I'd sit there with the missus and use the laptop to decide which BMW or Audi to spend her sales bonus on.

where's this massive figure of 750,000 come from, that you keep referring to ?

Sounds like an awful lot to me.

Probably worse crimes out there for our officers to deal with.

yes so yet another dangerous driver can endanger peoples lives so they can get to work 5 min faster

Is driving more quickly than the speed limit legally allows dangerous?

when they hit you're child at 35 rather than 20 its very dangerous

MAstiles looking at the standard of lots of drivers on the road then yes! People are often (not always) speeidng becuase they are in a hurry to get home/get to work/aren't paying attention, in which case it certainly becomes dangerous!

So is someone driving at 80mph on an empty motorway at 3am more dangerous than someone driving at 30mph past a busy school at 8.30am?

If it was my wife and I thought we'd get away with it then yes I'd take the points because, well, she's my wife.

I'd be asking for the photos, if there is a full frontal picture (ooh-er) that has her bang to rights then obviously not worth the risk. If she'd been done from behind by a gatso (double ooh-er) then I'd take one for the team.

The moral outrage of whiny stw'ers would not be a factor in the decision making process.

100 (mph)

Afterwards I'd sit there with the missus and use the laptop to decide which BMW or Audi to spend her sales bonus on.

Ahh, and then put a £5k 6" full susser on the back and waddle round the blue at glentress alone, I saw quite a lot of these people this weekend whilst waiting in the car park!

I really don't understand anyone making excuses for speeding - there's a big dial-type thingy in the centre of your dashboard telling you how fast you're going, and even larger round signs at the side of the road telling you how fast you're allowed to go - simples 😀

I'm with Lady Gresley - I get all pious about speeding too - if you can't see the dial or are not taking it seriously enough to pay proper attention, catch the bus.

Do the crime, do the time.

I really don't understand anyone making excuses for speeding - there's a big dial-type thingy in the centre of your dashboard telling you how fast you're going,

Exactly, yet when I nudged a cyclist because i was staring at the big dial thingy, everyone got all shirty with me!

CharlieMungus - Member

I really don't understand anyone making excuses for speeding - there's a big dial-type thingy in the centre of your dashboard telling you how fast you're going,

Exactly, yet when I nudged a cyclist because i was [b]staring[/b] at the big dial thingy, everyone got all shirty with me!

But what about if your speed changes after you glanced?

You mean you can't tell if you're going faster? Oh dear, oh dear, someone take his licence away please.

Lady Gresley - Member

I really don't understand anyone making excuses for speeding - there's a big dial-type thingy in the centre of your dashboard telling you how fast you're going, and even larger round signs at the side of the road telling you how fast you're allowed to go

Bloody morally outraged hand-wringing liberal leftie cultural marxist PC brigade!

I can, but I don't know how much faster. I can tell when i am accelerating, but once my speed levels out,it is very difficult to know what speed i am going at with any kind of accuracy.

and surely you know i'm a she, not a he.

How about a blind test?

We'll blind fold you and see if you can accurately estimate your speed from the engine revs, apparently all cyclists that don't drive can do this to the nearest 0.001 mph, so it won't be an issue for an experienced driver I'm sure

I'll film it for you 🙂

That's how i nudged the cyclist of his bike last time!

Was he blindfold too?

because, I guess you could have then got away before he got your reg number, saves hitting him again to make sure his memory is a bit blurred

Was he blindfold too?

No, because he noticed when he fell off

I hope he wasn't so badly injured that he couldn't race home quickly and report what happened on a bicylist's internet forum?

He did try, but he was in a 20 mph zone, so was somewhat restricted.

Sorry, to have ruined the thread, but at least we have a new synonym for 'pussy whipped', 'bush whacked'

😆

The speed limit is just that - an upper limit. It's not a target that 'must' be achieved. Accepting for the moment that your speed will vary slightly as you drive along, just aim to be below the limit so you've less chance of exceeding it accidentally.

The speed limit is just that - an upper limit. It's not a target that 'must' be achieved. Accepting for the moment that your speed will vary slightly as you drive along, just aim to be below the limit so you've less chance of exceeding it accidentally.

I did that, then someone started a discussion about cars pootling along and making the point that i should be 'making progress'.

a popular alternative for the OP's friends wife would be to take the ban and carry on driving in the manner in which she is accustomed - lots of companies are pretty poor at checking employees actually hold or continue to hold a current license

the answer is actually - her mum should take the points.

Surprised at the number of people here who are outraged at relatively minor speeding offences. I seriously doubt 58 on a motorway or 44 in a 40 significantly increase the chance of a serious accident. Big fines and shouty letters? fine. Loss of Livelihood? Preposterous.

As many have already pointed out, 4 occasions of speeding = 4 occasions of lack of concentration/awareness, regardless of how fast she was actually going. If you can't see a police car/speed camera, what else are you missing?

If you aren't looking for policemen and speed cameras what else can you concentrate on?

How come you never get one or two points?

Surprised at the number of people here who are outraged at relatively minor speeding offences

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Its as Druidh says - Its the lack of attention that getting caught 4 times shows that is the danger.

speeding is really simple - if you can't do the time don't do the crime. dont whinge about it and if your licence is that important to you don't speed.

New fast car = preposterous excuse. Just try that on in court and watch the fines and ban get worse.

If you aren't looking for policemen and speed cameras what else can you concentrate on?

Given that police and speed cameras are either on the road or at the roadside, and usually painted in bright colours, where the hell else is she looking? We know it's not at her speedo.

I've just heard the cat is going to take the points!

Anyway, haven't you lot got lives you should be paying more attention to?

i would imagine most/many/lots of drivers break the speed limit at some point on most journeys. I am not sure whether to be pious or outraged- despite this fact I have never had any points on my licence
Would I be outraged at you doing it.. a bit
Would I do it if I knew I could get away with it....probably

Some people really do live like saints on here to come out with such hollier than thou bile filled advice! However, I would much rather explain to my employer that I have a driving ban than a conviction for perverting the course of justice.

Standing up and telling the truth in court is normally the best action to take. But you need to think how your wife will mitigate the offence, show contrition and demonstrate that she is taking positive action to pevent it happening again.

When I got banned for doing 100mph plus on my motorcycle on the M5 I admitted that I had a lack of self control and shouldn't be trusted with such a big and powerful motorcyle and that I was selling it and buying something more sedate. I accepted that a ban was mandatory and would make work vey difficult and that the court case had been a real wake up call. I got a £330 fine 4 points and a 7 day ban which I thought was a result as it could've been a job ending year long ban and 6 points.

I told work and basically admitted I was a **** and took it on the chin. I did sell my motorbike and got somhing smaller and slower and I've not had a conviction since then - and thats 9 years ago

I try not to speed but couldn't honestly say at the end of a journey whether or not I may have gone over at some point.
reckon I must have done over a million miles without running anyone over or getting points/endorsements

one was doing 44 in a 40
No it wasn't!

you only get a fixed penalty in a 40 for 46 or over.

Depends on the local constabulary. Most use a 10 per cent plus 2 guideline, but this is not always the case.

You can be prosecuted for 1 mph over the limit and some forces operate a zero tolerance policy.

Don't forget that most speedos over read, so if you get clocked at 44, your speedo is probably showing at least 46, there's plenty of room for error...

Some people really do live like saints on here to come out with such hollier than thou bile filled advice!

Well, I don't think there's been too much of that TBH, just a general view that someone caught speeding 4 times in a relatively short space of time should maybe take what's coming to them rather than conspire to pervert the course of justice. Speed limits aren't a closely guarded secret, and neither is the fact that being caught speeding usually gets you points and a fine - someone caught speeding 4 times has nothing to feel agrieved about if it tots up to a disqualification.