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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-17115011

Sunderland footballer Nicklas Bendtner has been banned from driving for 56 days and fined £660 after he was caught speeding in his Porsche.

The 24-year-old striker was clocked at 103mph on the Woolsington bypass, near Newcastle Airport, in December.

The solicitor said his client had "substantial" disposable income and could pay the fine immediately with a credit card.
Chairman of the bench Edward Wardrobe imposed the 56-day driving ban, and fined the footballer £660, plus £30 costs and a £15 victim surcharge.

[b]No penalty points were added to the three Bendtner has on his licence.[/b]

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Posted : 21/02/2012 8:44 pm
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Ban instead of points.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:46 pm
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No points because he wasn't endangering anyone - that useless arse couldn't hit something if he tried !!


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:47 pm
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So does a 56 day ban equate to 3 points then?


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:48 pm
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So does a 56 day ban equate to 3 points then?
That would be an interesting option to offer.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:49 pm
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So does a 56 day ban equate to 3 points then?

I don't think it was an alternative, just the penalty he was given. His licence will still be endorsed long after the ban I would imagine.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:50 pm
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[i]No points because he wasn't endangering anyone[/i]

I don't believe I was either while doing 36 in a 30 zone at 06.42 one Sunday morning last June, on the way to work. I STILL GOT 3 POINTS THOUGH!!


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:52 pm
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His licence will still be endorsed.
But not with points?


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:53 pm
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Non UK licence?


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:54 pm
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But not with points?

No, but it's still something you have to declare to the insurance company. I'd say a ban is probably worse than points in insurance terms. With drink driving, for example you don't get points, you get a ban and an endorsement.

edit. Effectively it's like accumulating 12 points in one go/


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:55 pm
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Except that it doesn't "tot up", so if you can do without your vehicle for a few weeks and you have a well-above-average income, it's carte blanche to be a danger on the roads?


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:56 pm
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yes probably foreign licence , I dont have uk one and never get points , just fines .


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:58 pm
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dunno, if you accumulate 12 points, you get a ban, and then get your licence back after a certain time and presumably loose some of those points, it's sort of the same thing really, except you get it in one go.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:58 pm
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You don't get points AND a ban. It's one or the other.


 
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[i]No, but it's still something you have to declare to the insurance company. I'd say a ban is probably worse than points in insurance terms.[/i]
Thats probly true, I've just got some quotes for my insurance & declared said 3 POINTS! on my app & amazingly had a quote for £23 less than I paid last year!


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 8:59 pm
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With drink driving, for example you don't get points, you get a ban and an endorsement.

Except that, and unless the law has changed since my DR10, you do get points (3 I think) for the following ten years. Not something to take lightly.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:00 pm
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my mate got done and he never got any points, just a fine and a ban, and an endorsement that stayed on his licence for 10 years, that was about 10 years ago.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:02 pm
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There must have been a change then, mine was nearly 30 yrs ago. 😆
I think I had 7 points for 3 years followed by 3 points until the ten years was up.
It was a good job the first car I bought after the ban still had 1100cc on the log book to keep the insurance down. 😈


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:04 pm
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12 points isn't an automatic ban. I got 12 totting up but they didn't ban me as I would have lost my job. Really felt like I got away with it (and would have lost the job I had) and was more cautious of speed limits after that so in my case it was reasonably effective.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:20 pm
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12 points isn't an automatic ban; speeding isn't an automatic three+ points.

The law says (IIRC and paraphrasing) that you're "eligible" for a ban / points. In practical terms, this means that you will get them unless there's a reason not to. So, you'd probably escape a ban in "unnecessary hardship" cases, and escape points where a ban was more appropriately enforced instead.

I think.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:32 pm
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12 points isn't an automatic ban. I got 12 totting up but they didn't ban me as I would have lost my job. Really felt like I got away with it

Yeah, that would be unnecessary hardship. You probably didn't get away with it though; they'd have rammed the fine right up instead.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:36 pm
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Yea, £300 and it was about 17 years ago? But was still less than a weeks wage at the time, so yea, I was lucky/grateful.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:48 pm
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Magistrates' Court, consistency and logic not to be expected. Although the sentence in this case may have been entirely appropriate of course.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 9:54 pm
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Isn't it about time they updated "costs" .£30 quid wouldn't even cover the the brief's lunch!
And WTF is the £15 victim surcharge in a speeding case all about?


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 10:02 pm
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12 years ago I was on 9 points all for speeding in work vans. Silly I know but I got caught again and instead of giving me more points I got a month ban. Got licence back still with 9 points and the ban on it aswell. Cracking months holiday though


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 10:13 pm
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And WTF is the £15 victim surcharge in a speeding case all about?

I think that entitles you to punch the magistrate on the nose on the way out of the court.


 
Posted : 21/02/2012 10:13 pm
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12 points isn't an automatic ban;

Almost half of all drivers with 12 points do not receive a ban!


 
Posted : 22/02/2012 6:59 am
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yes probably foreign licence , I dont have uk one and never get points , just fines .

unlikely, you can't drive on a foreign licence for more than a year

Additionally, he already has 3 points on his licence.


 
Posted : 22/02/2012 8:04 am
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If you get banned for 8 weeks or over, then you get your license back clean. If the ban is for less than 8 weeks, you get the license back with the points on. Looks like Bendtner's solicitor has done his job well.


 
Posted : 22/02/2012 8:16 am
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unlikely, you can't drive on a foreign licence for more than a year

Surely you can with a EU licence?


 
Posted : 22/02/2012 8:22 am
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Most insurance companies take no notice of 3 points for speeding. Many don't load you for 6 points for speeding. They all increase premiums for a ban and usually ask if you have [u]ever[/u] been disqualified but are only concerned about speeding points in the last 5 years.
Years ago a pal and I went to court for the same speeding offence. We were "chased" by an unmarked Police car for more than 20 miles. The summons went on for 3 pages listing every single speed limit that we broke on our mid eighties sports bikes. The summons made no mention of the bloke in the Maserati that we "making progress" with along the dual carriage way and he did not get pulled over.
So both motorcyclists end up in court on different days. My mate got a 56 day ban and I got away with 3 points and a £100 fine. The only difference was that I had a letter from my then boss who was a big cheese in the Free Masons and I can only presume that the Magistrate was a trouser roller too.


 
Posted : 22/02/2012 8:32 am
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Substantial disposable income and footballer. Cant see how he's going to be bothered how much his insurance goes up really


 
Posted : 22/02/2012 8:46 am

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