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Got caught at 65 in a 50 (dual carriageway, not built up area)

Hertfordshire Police after requesting driver details, sent a letter saying points and fine, or see you in court. Specifically stated that I will not be offered a speed awareness course.

It's my first offence in a clean licence - any idea why no course?


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 8:06 am
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I’m guessing because it was 15 miles per hour over the limit. Is it straight to fine and points if a certain percentage over?


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 8:08 am
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AUDI S5.

😙

*Edit, that's a whistle emoji??


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 8:09 am
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Outside speed awareness course guidelines.

AFAIK there's a cap on what you can exceed the limit by and still get a course and I would guess at 15mph over you're above that.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 8:09 am
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Under what circumstances are you offered a speed awareness course?

You may be eligible if: you haven't attended a speed awareness course in the past three years. the speed you were caught at was within the acceptable range. This is typically between the speed limit + 10% + 2mph and the speed limit + 10% + 9mph (for example, between 35-42mph in a 30mph zone)

So for a 50mph speed limit, that's 57-64, and you were faster than that.

https://www.comparethemarket.com/car-insurance/content/speed-awareness/


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 8:13 am
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If they'd done you for 66 in a 50 you could have been looking at a ban.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 9:03 am
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Way too fast for speed awareness I'm afraid. Slow down 😉


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 9:27 am
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Hertfordshire Police after requesting driver details, sent a letter saying points and fine, or see you in court. Specifically stated that I will not be offered a speed awareness course.It’s my first offence in a clean licence – any idea why no course?

Could it have anything to do with the way you spoke to the police officer?

I could still probably beat you downhill, I’m better looking than you, my dick is bigger than yours and I don’t smell of wee as much as you do…..

😉🤣🙃


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 9:47 am
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You seem to be aware of how fast you were going. Why do you need a course?


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 9:56 am
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Same as when I passed the police car at 143mph on the A34. Apparently is was more than the 10-15% limit they have on speed awareness. Bastards wouldn't even take a bung to lose the paperwork. Fascists!


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:02 am
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Dual carriageway or dual lane. An important distinction that you’d learn on a speed awareness course….


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:04 am
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First speeding fine? At your age? 🤣🤣

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Posted : 17/07/2022 10:20 am
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65 in a 50, what do you think you would learn from a course that would stop you being such a ****er of a driver?


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:20 am
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I'll join you at the bottom of the STW pile on. Just coughed for 3 points and £100. First points ever on license at 54. 43 in a 30, makes me sound like a monster. In mitigation it was a dual carriageway with central reservation. Changed from 40mph 100 yards before the speed camera. Was at 2.30am and I hadn't seen more than half a dozen cars in the hour since leaving the Chunnel at Folkstone. No offer of a course. Fair cop I guess but can't help but feel slightly hard done by.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:29 am
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Sun's out, must be time to gently BBQ an aggrieved speeder on STW. 🙂


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:30 am
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No offer of a course. Fair cop I guess but can’t help but feel slightly hard done by.

if it helps, I got a course for 43 in a 30. Plymouth. The course leader was surprised I was quite happy to be there.  Hi fives all the fellow moral vacuums


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:34 am
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First speeding fine? At your age? 🤣🤣

You can be lucky.
Nearly 50, always had jobs that mean 30-50kmiles per year.
One speeding ticket in recent years and one red light jumped just after I'd passed my test.

Care and a bit of luck as everyone cocks up from time to time.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:42 am
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Surely people breaking the limit by such a large margin should get points & fine and speed awareness course?


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:43 am
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I’d have speed restrictors fitted to their cars for a couple of years too.


 
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Sun’s out, must be time to gently BBQ an aggrieved speeder on STW. 🙂

to be fair you should know the Pack-drill by now.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:46 am
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Surely a speed camera awareness course would be more useful?


 
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I could still probably beat you downhill, I’m better looking than you, my dick is bigger than yours and I don’t smell of wee as much as you do…..

I read that quote .....I read this thread ..... I knew it would appear.

I guess the question on everyone's lips is were you on an e bike...


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:58 am
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Surely a speed camera awareness course would be more useful?

Baby steps... lets start with number awareness.

If the numbers lit up infront of you are bigger* than the ones on the big hard to miss red circled ones on the signs you're flashng by...

... remove foot from go button until the numebr is smaller*

*THis a reference to tha size of the value not the comparision of small and far away.


 
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Sun’s out, must be time to gently BBQ an aggrieved speeder on STW.
Bit of light entertainment while sitting in the paddling pool more like 😂 OP's been on here long enough to know [I]exactly[/I] how speeding threads always go.
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Posted : 17/07/2022 11:48 am
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Good replies, as expected 🤣


 
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I’d rather just eat the points than do a bloody course.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 12:10 pm
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AUDI S5.

Excuse me - RS5 😉 - but no, Discovery

First speeding fine? At your age? 🤣🤣

Drunken wrong wording - it's been clean for over 30 years. had 3 points once before 😉

Dual carriageway or dual lane. An important distinction that you’d learn on a speed awareness course….

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Posted : 17/07/2022 12:16 pm
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@zilog

you can't post 'I've been speeding, why haven't I been let off' and then claim it's master fishing any more than I can post 'I don't mind immigrants but they should all be forced to convert to CoE because that's the national religion' 😉

(this place has gone downhill, I long for the 'neighbour has moved his fence' classics of the past)


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 12:35 pm
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Burn him. Burn the witch


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 12:36 pm
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You'd have to catch him first


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 1:23 pm
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just hide behind the fluorescent yellow and blue liveried van with the camera poking out of the back, he'll never see you 😉


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 1:39 pm
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just hide behind the fluorescent yellow and blue liveried van with the camera poking out of the back, he’ll never see you 😉

Yeah, I didn't see that rather conspicuous van until it was too late. Must have been texting or something


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 2:44 pm
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43 in a 30, makes me sound like a monster. In mitigation it was a dual carriageway with central reservation. Changed from 40mph 100 yards before the speed camera. Was at 2.30am and I hadn’t seen more than half a dozen cars in the hour since leaving the Chunnel at Folkstone. No offer of a course. Fair cop I guess but can’t help but feel slightly hard done by.

Would have needed two courses though, since you were speeding in the 40 zone as well. The whole point of the camera is to encourage you to drop your speed after the change.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 4:19 pm
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I love these speeding threads me.
I'd been driving (IE, passed my test) since 1974, finally succumbed to a 36 in a 30 in 2015.
06.45 on a Sunday morning, on the way to a long dayshift in the jail, wondering if yesterday's shit was still going to be bubbling. Lapse of concentration as I approached the speedy camera then FLASH!
Wouldn't care, I probably never went over 40 all the way along the NSL stretch.
I just took the points.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:01 pm
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You can be lucky.
Nearly 50, always had jobs that mean 30-50kmiles per year.
One speeding ticket in recent years and one red light jumped just after I’d passed my test.

Care and a bit of luck as everyone cocks up from time to time.

The big thing people con themselves with is the idea that 'everyones doing it' - theres currently 2.6m drivers with points for something on their licence in the uk, which sounds like a lot. But there are 30 million drivers. So thats 91 percent of drivers who are 'lucky'.


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 10:26 pm
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Well I’m awaiting my first points after 38 years. Just forgot about the change in limit. Will be a bad one (worse than the OP). And it was my fault. All make mistakes, sometimes they are of consequence. Sometimes they are caught. The statistic is not the number with points, it’s the number who have EVER had points that is relevant. Just like covid infections now (18%) vs. ever had covid (will be 100% eventually).


 
Posted : 17/07/2022 11:55 pm
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You’d have to catch him first

He'll be on foot, how hard can it be?


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 7:17 am
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He’ll be on foot, how hard can it be?

Surely he will be on his bike, simultaneously riding on the pavement while jumping red lights and singlehandedly causing a tailback comprised entirely of motor vehicles.

I reckon he'll get away myself.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 8:04 am
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Well I’m awaiting my first points after 38 years. Just forgot about the change in limit.

If only there was some way of knowing, so we didn't have to memorise all the speed limit changes 😉


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 9:01 am
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Indeed. Need that gps reminder on the car sat nav. Motorways don’t have repeater signs but they do have a hard shoulder to remind you they are motorways! 🤣. The police officer was very pleasant. Asked if I was ok.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 9:06 am
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The big thing people con themselves with is the idea that ‘everyones doing it’ – theres currently 2.6m drivers with points for something on their licence in the uk, which sounds like a lot. But there are 30 million drivers. So thats 91 percent of drivers who are ‘lucky’.

Yes, but the OP probably drives 10x the distance more than the majority of the 30m.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 9:09 am
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Almost every driver breaks the law every time they go out in their car.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 9:15 am
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tjagain

Almost every driver breaks the law every time they go out in their car.

Exactly, in 40 years of driving I doubt I was a perfect driver more than 5% of the time.

I've been lucky/mostly observant to only have had 1 speeding fine in 1988.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:01 pm
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Speeding Top Trumps is it....

I see your 65 in 50 and i raise you 83 in a 40 (t'was a dual carriageway). I got a 56 day ban and £350 fine.

Needless to say it was a moment of madness (read: showing off to mates), something i'm not proud of and a punishment well deserved. Lesson was learnt on that day. Clean licence ever since.

But hey, we live and learn (hopefully)


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:30 pm
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i learnt that traffic light cameras in plymouth switch to speed cameras when the lights are green/amber.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 1:37 pm
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The big thing people con themselves with is the idea that ‘everyones doing it’ – theres currently 2.6m drivers with points for something on their licence in the uk, which sounds like a lot. But there are 30 million drivers. So thats 91 percent of drivers who are ‘lucky’.

I know a fair chunk of people with driving licences who barely or never drive.
They have nice clean licences.
Same goes for commuters, easy to have a clean license driving 30 miles or so of the same route every day.

As I said everybody makes a mistake, if you're lucky you don't get caught.

Obviously plenty speed on purpose, although that has changed in recent years with trackers/telematics and most notably when fuel hit £2 per litre.


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 4:54 pm
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As I said everybody makes a mistake, if you’re UNlucky you don’t get caught.

FTFY


 
Posted : 18/07/2022 6:47 pm
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I don't think she rides a mountain bike, but then not many on here do, eh?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/18/tory-police-boss-banned-driving-breaking-speed-limit-five-times-caroline-henry


 
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