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Geezer says seal ‘looks pretty good’, lass subsequently identifies three observable deficiencies. That’s the Right Stuff.
Billionaires spaffing money on a fancy trip whilst over excited Space X employees whoop in the background and commentators try to convince us this is the next giant leap for mankind (despite space walks now being around for over 60 years). I love space, I love science but I find this slightly sickly.
Space X stuff stopped being fun when the rockets stopped blowing up.
Incredible achievements for all involved.
Bit harsh. Whilst I can’t stand the owner and I get that some of the ‘dominant’ individuals are there by virtue of $$$, the reusability breakthrough is astonishing and they now need to be able to demonstrate crewed space is also safe including going outside to check the gutters. Looking over at that Boeing Starliner debacle means it’s essential there are crewed alternatives.
As for the whooping it’s always been bright young engineers. It’s just that the ones at NASA and the military industrial complex were very much part of a hierarchy (watch the Columbia disaster on iPlayer). I don’t resent their enthusiasm.
Just a shame a lot of it coincided with crossing the Pacific and loss of video.
I'm waiting for the trickle down tech to cure cancer or some such worthy outcome
Otherwise it's just rich people doing daft shit whilst polluting earth and space
Space X stuff stopped being fun when the rockets stopped blowing up.
Just reinforces what an achievement it has been for Space X to go from a failing maiden rocket flight in 2006 to sending humans into orbit safely within 20 years. If not for Space X the Americans would now be asking Vlad Putin to transport their astonauts back from the ISS because of the the Boing Starliner failure.
I'd be watching if it was Theil, Musk, Koch, and Bezos sent up there to space walk, I'd program the capsule to re-enter earth when they are tethered though.
I have been lucky enough to 'sit in' on a few honorary degree presentations.
As is the way on these occasions, the person receiving the award sits silently on stage while their achievements are read out by one of their peers.
I was constantly amazed (and truly humbled) by the brilliance of these people,how much they had contributed to the world,and that they had done all this hard work quietly and without a fuss.
So yeah, as much as I love science and technology,multi millionaires spunking millions to go on a jolly into space is just a bit sad.
I am sure in a few decades from now they can watch from their moon station as the Earth burns.
If not for Space X the Americans would now be asking Vlad Putin to transport their astonauts back from the ISS because of the the Boing Starliner failure.
Remind me again what the 'I' stands for.
I think it's impressive for a new organisation and a private company. The pace they progress is outstanding and they question the establishment and choose some different routes which is great.
I feel slightly mis-sold though. I guess it's an Eva, they've gone outside the capsule.... or at least their upper bodies did. I had pictured them right outside and floating separately though.
I'm only interested when it goes wrong
neilnevillFree Member
I think it’s impressive for a new organisation and a private company. The pace they progress is outstanding and they question the establishment and choose some different routes which is great.
As with everything (most especially everything involving EM), he’s had some pretty giant shoulders to stand on, a borrowed ladder to climb even higher and has never stopped crapping on those lower down as he continues to climb. SpaceX had little or nothing to lose in the early days and used vast NASA contracts (delivered late - always) to get them there. The same is true here. Much of the cost of this capability has been borne by NASA for the commercial crew contract.
Much, MUCH more credit should go to NASA for the things that it does.
Whilst operating a spacecraft with lot's of ins and outs, and re-pressurising of airlocks, how do they keep a constant supply of air / oxygen?
Each time the airlock is opened, I can't imagine they are able to recover 100% of the air that is in the airlock before its opened, so if you were running something like a remote spacecraft for many years, how would you ensure enough air to re-pressurise the airlocks?
Remind me again what the ‘I’ stands for.
So what? Its not a good look to have to go cap in hand to buy a space flight from a country against which you have placed sanctions.
Billionaire tossers.
so if you were running something like a remote spacecraft for many years, how would you ensure enough air to re-pressurise the airlocks?
On the ISS some oxygen is recovered from exhaled CO2 and the remaining requirement is delivered by supply craft from Earth.
Yes Daffy, the pioneers had a far bigger challenge. No one knew what was possible and a brave approach to quickly reproduce something is not the same as any approach to achieving the unknown .
It's still impressive though.
Ie. Ed White had balls of steel. Jared..... impressive drive but maybe not unusually large testicles.
Ie. Ed White had balls of steel. Jared….. impressive drive but maybe not unusually large testicles.
This is how SpaceX have managed to slim down their space suits.
Oh and don't forget Leonov..
No airlock. They were in their suits and depressurised the cabin. Old skool.
The players might be less than decent humans, but sadly its an expensive game to play.
Viable private manned spaceflight is a significant (if very small and early) milestone to interstellar travel and or space colonisation.
Seems like yet another form of billionaire extravagant potential suicide method to me.
Much, MUCH more credit should go to NASA for the things that it does.
What, like giving Boeing $billions more than SpaceX to produce exactly the same thing which they still haven't been able to do 4 years after SpaceX got their product signed off by NASA?
Yeah.... way to go 😐
SpaceX had little or nothing to lose in the early days and used vast NASA contracts (delivered late – always) to get them there.
I believe that is incorrect. SpaceX used Musk's own money initially and were on the last launch they could afford when Falcon 1 finally flew successfully.
It was only after that that NASA started buying from them.
SpaceX used only ~$150m dollars between 2002 and 2006 to get Falcon1 off the ground, but only a fraction of that was Musk’s. They knew from 2004 that they were in with a significant shot of securing an ISS resupply contract, which was planned as $1.5-3.7bn contract over 10y for supply. This would give SpaceX an almost unlimited timeframe to perfect a rocket capable of minimising launch cost. There was also no fixed price per launch terms for either NASA or the DOD, hence why SpaceX can charge so much to the US Gov.
Musk’s biggest skill is in business and schmoozing to spread the costs of investment capital and leverage huge government subsidies and credits (Tesla) and to move money/resource from one project to another with little oversight.
Take those things away and you get the Twitter/X debacle which was such a monumental miscalculation, that the only way to maintain the balance sheet was to fire all the people who made it what it was. Shatting on those beneath him. Just like when Tesla needed to cut costs, just like when the Boring Company was struggling…
WRT Starliner, and much as I’m loathe to defend Boeing, Starliner is much more complicated than CG as it’s designed to mate with more than a single launcher and was designed to a much more stringent set of requirements in order to be used for SLS, the TLG and beyond. In mission, it’s closer to the crew support requirement for Starship than to Crew Dragon.
I must admit when I saw the promo guff I thought 'Space. The Final Frontier. Our five day mission is to **** each others brains out in zero gee when they switch off the cameras.'
I can't pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey's on the Moon)
Ten years from now I'll be paying still.
(while Whitey's on the Moon)
I’m waiting for the trickle down tech to cure cancer or some such worthy outcome
Im pretty sure that excuse gets rolled out for every project anyone ever comes up with.
#HospitalBedsForSickKittens
There was also no fixed price per launch terms for either NASA or the DOD, hence why SpaceX can charge so much to the US Gov.
You do realise that SpaceX charge a mere fraction of what NASA/Gov had to pay previously don't you?
Echoing much of the above - I couldn’t give a tin shit about what a bunch of obscenely rich people can do with their money. It’s just wrong. Who needs that much? And, if you are lucky enough to have it, why not do something worthwhile with it rather than spend a few days indulging yourself doing something that really doesn’t matter.
Daffy
Full MemberAs with everything (most especially everything involving EM), he’s had some pretty giant shoulders to stand on, a borrowed ladder to climb even higher and has never stopped crapping on those lower down as he continues to climb. SpaceX had little or nothing to lose in the early days and used vast NASA contracts (delivered late – always) to get them there. The same is true here. Much of the cost of this capability has been borne by NASA for the commercial crew contract.
Yep, people largely overlook that without the various government contracts and subsidies, Spacex would have gone out of business with zero succesful launches and that would most likely have taken tesla down too. And Musk himself admitted that, though not so much recently.
Well, really they'd have just never existed because there would have been no point without the government money, the DARPA "we will pay you to launch random shit we don't actually need launched" contract etc.
And, if you are lucky enough to have it, why not do something worthwhile with it rather than spend a few days indulging yourself doing something that really doesn’t matter.
This x 1
As an example I was listening to Hannah Fry interview a wonderful woman today (see below), Jocelyn Bell Burnell. She won the “Special Breakthrough Prize in Fundamental Physics” along with a $3m prize for discovering Pulsars which she promptly gave away to establish a fund to help female, minority and refugee students to become physicists
**** musk and his birther tech bro crowd
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0022swq
the Twitter/X debacle which was such a monumental miscalculation
I'm not so sure that it was.
It was a financial black hole for sure. But it's a tremendous mouthpiece for someone with Elon Musk's ego.
Im pretty sure that excuse gets rolled out for every project anyone ever comes up with.
I don't know about SpaceX specifically, but a tremendous amount of tech we have today is as a direct or indirect result of the space race.
Musk’s biggest skill is in business and schmoozing
Eh! Isn't it being an utter **** and despicable human being?