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plus the way lower comparable spec make them worth it?
Not to cherry pick a quote, but what is this bit in relation to? All Apple products? iPhones?
Well the products in general really. RAM is usually double on comparable tablets/comps for example.
@Houns have you downloaded the new facebook app ? Facebook is generally the worst performing app on my iPhone though and pretty bad under iOS5 on my iPad1
Yeah, OK I was kidding about the 8.1 update making Windows phones safe to put in a microwave, but...
I [i] did [/i] put it in this:
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i'd just like to thank all the testers in this thread for providing apple with useful feedback before the full launch (iOS8.1) is released.
If you don't have the latest hardware -1, never update the OS!
If you don't have the latest hardware -1, never update the OS!
As I said, iPhone 4S here (so latest hardware - 5ish) and it is fine with iOS 8.
@CaptJohn I rarely have the latest hardware and I always update the OS. I have never had the need to provide a bug report to Apple. As I posted I have the oldest phone (4S) which supports iOS8 and it runs fine.
If you don't have the latest hardware -1, never update the OS!
5 here an no issues, going to update the rest of the Apple products tonight as I always use mine as the tester.
Battery life seems to have improved a little on mine, only apps that are crashing or ones where the producers are too slow to update.
Looks like some iPhone 6 users are getting bendy phones.
[url= http://www.cnet.com/news/will-it-bend-iphone-6-takes-a-turn-for-the-worse/ ]Ooops - story here[/url]
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This story is about an iPhone 6 plus, not sure why you'd put such a large phone in your pocket and then sit on it, surely its obvious it's going to get broken ?
*goes back to hammering in nails with iPhone 4*
*goes back to hammering in nails with iPhone 4*
I guess you'll be doing that really slowly if it's running iOS8
IGMC
I guess you'll be doing that really slowly if it's running iOS8IGMC
On your way out, don't forget that iOS8 wont install on an iPhone 4.
not sure why you'd put such a large phone in your pocket and then sit on it, surely its obvious it's going to get broken ?
What was it I was saying on the other thread about phones getting too big for pockets? 😀
I fancy a bigger phone for my next one. I actually prefer larger ones in my front pockets because they don't slip down and wedge themselves sideways across your leg.
Just put the bent phone in a vice and flatten it.
This story is about an iPhone 6 plus, not sure why you'd put such a large phone in your pocket and then sit on it, surely its obvious it's going to get broken ?
does that mean you have to carry a man bag if you have a 6+ ?
Could it be caused by hipsters and the tightness of their skinny jeans?
Maybe this will see the return of the loose fit jeans of the 90s
This story is about an iPhone 6 plus, not sure why you'd put such a large phone in your pocket and then sit on it, surely its obvious it's going to get broken
Would never happen with a smaller phone.
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Looks like some iPhone 6 users are getting bendy phones.Ooops - story here
From that link: "some iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus users are complaining of a major design flaw that sees the smartphone body bend under pressure."
Now I'm the last person to defend Apple, but really? I would never stick my Xperia in my back pocket and sit down, and if I did and it broke I wouldn't consider it a "design flaw"...
Now I'm the last person to defend Apple, but really? I would never stick my Xperia in my back pocket and sit down, and if I did and it broke I wouldn't consider it a "design flaw"...
Never done it with any phone I've used as sitting on something with LCD display, glass or other fragile parts is just stupid.
@kimbers, possibly yes. I have one for my iPad. I would say a high portion of the phablet users I have seen (esp in Asia) are women and they keep the phones in their handbags. Alternative is to have a shirt pocket or jacket.
You wouldn't sit on your laptop so I struggle to see why you think you can sit on your phone.
I've accidentally sat on my 4S numerous times and only noticed when it rings or digs in - it's never come to any harm. Easy to forget it's in your back pocket if your mind is elsewhere, which mine frequently is 😀
Mind you I don't wear hipster jeans or have a massive arse.
I don't think this is happening because people are leaving them in their back pockets and sitting on them.
[url= http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/23/iphone-6-plus-bending-pockets/ ]original macrumours story here[/url]
I can't imagine putting a phone in my back pocket. It'd be trashed within a week.
On the other hand my mates wife drove over her Iphone 5 with their SMax and apart from a shattered screen, which was repaired for £60, it worked perfectly and has been ever since.
The bendy stories are from people apparently leaving their phones in the front pocket, skinny jeans may be a factor!
Im sure apple will deny there's a problem and then offer a special case to fix the problem that doesnt exist, now where have I heard that before....?
Im sure apple will deny there's a problem and then offer a special case to fix the problem that doesnt exist, now where have I heard that before....?
From Sony?
Photo sharing etc fine
No. No it's not. Apple really mucked up photo management when they introduced iCloud/Photostream and iOS8 offers no improvement. I do hope they get their act together with the new Photos iOS and OSX apps, whenever they appear.
No. No it's not. Apple really mucked up photo management when they introduced iCloud/Photostream and iOS8 offers no improvement.
In what way did they muck it up as seems Ok to me?
In what way did they muck it up as seems Ok to me?
Im not sure Jennifer Lawrence or Aubrey Plaza would agree 😉
In what way did they muck it up as seems Ok to me?
1. Take photos on iPhone
2. Photos uploaded to Photostream automatically
3. Photos automatically downloaded to all devices including Mac
4. Sort/edit photos on Mac
5. Sync sorted photos back to my iPhone (I want the good/edited ones on my phone, not the dross). I've set everything up so my last 10 events on my Mac sync automatically back to my iPhone
Following this workflow I end up with all the original unedited photos still on my iPhone as well as in the Photostream. This means duplicates and no easy way to bulk delete them.
Pre iCloud Photostream I had to manually transfer images from phone to Mac and then sync back to phone i.e. I treated the iPhone as if it were just another camera. The idea of Photostream still appeals as an automatic and temporary backup of photos. I could turn it off and work my old way, but if I turn Photostream off I'm conscious I'm swimming against the Apple current which, in my experience, leads to more frustrations.
I'm open to suggestions
On an iOS device using iOS 7 or later:
Open the Photos app.
Tap the Albums tab.
Tap My Photo Stream.
Tap Select.
Tap one or more photos. Checkmarks denote photos you have selected.
Tap the Trash icon. Tap Delete [number] Photos.
Im not sure Jennifer Lawrence or Aubrey Plaza would agree
If only they'd used less obvious security questions. 😉
Open the Photos app.
Tap the Albums tab.
Tap My Photo Stream.
On iOS8 I have no Photostream album.
That aside, the problem with this solution is that I've already sorted and deleted the photos outside of the Photostream. I don't want to have to go through it all again. What I want/expect Photostream to be is an automatic way of temporarily backing up my photos and automatically transferring to my Mac. This bit it does. However I want it to be in the background and not feature in my Photos app under Collections at all.
Apple have half-implemented a multi-device cloud photo management infrastructure that - for me - arguably causes more problems than it solves.
Photostream is not simply a photo back up feature, it is as you say a multi-device photo sharing/management thing - there is no half implementation. If you don't like it you can turn it off and use one of the plethora of simple photo back up and sharing options our there like Flikr.
Having multiple Apple devices is seems to me that Apple have it well sorted. Your device is only a window into a common environment so you have photo's, music, apps etc shared across all devices, so moving from my iphone, to ipad to mac is consistent in terms of available content. I like it and it works well. You can always turn these features off if you don't like them.
IOS8 does seem to have got rid of the Photostream folder and combined your camera roll and photostream folder into a 'Recently Added' folder.
Who says all devices have to work in the same way? Apple have their own philosophy and users pay their money and take their choices. If you've bought the wrong phone for your uses, don't blame Apple.
wobbliscott have you any practical tips for me that will address any of my issues?
it is as you say a multi-device photo sharing/management thing
It's not there yet. Apple did talk about changes to their photo apps on iOS and OSX in their developer conference in the Summer which look like they will do what I'm after. I've heard little more about it since though.
kimbers - Member
In what way did they muck it up as seems Ok to me?
Im not sure Jennifer Lawrence or Aubrey Plaza would agree
Social engineering, innit.
The issue is by combining the photo albums they've ****ed it up for other stuff!
Take Messenger for example - I have roughly 4k pics on phone.
However because of what Apple have done - I only have access to "recent pics" or other folders - NOT the full amount of pics on the phone. Theres no way of getting to them.
However because of what Apple have done - I only have access to "recent pics" or other folders - NOT the full amount of pics on the phone. Theres no way of getting to them.
I can access all mine.
Not from within FB Messenger you can't :-/
Surely that's because Messenger's shit, not iOS8?
Not from within FB Messenger you can't :-/
What Njee20 said. You can't blame a shit app on iOS.
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I've not updated my 'proper' ipad2 yet. My camera roll has disappeared and my photos are no longer where I want to keep them Yours is definitely better. It's funny. meone I frequently refer to as a couple the other perso , music that'll do me. Anyway , go on. , but you can just go along tomorrow morning at the tea and I can pick it up. the update and can cheer me up with Translation: updated my 4s and now I can't play podcasts in the car. It does learn from your previous typing because if I type the name of so I'm still on iOs 7 as I'm jailbroken. My Kindle app sucks now.
Does iOS 8 have an inherent issue with white space or the Return key?
Does iOS 8 have an inherent issue with white space or the Return key?
It might, but I'm not reading all that to find out.
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@holst is there an insert paragraph app ? I am sure you've put great thought into that post but it's unreadable, I gave up 😐
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/ios801-update-apple-pulls-latest-patch-after-users-could-not-make-calls-9754200.html
yep, that seems to have goosed by iPhone 6 which no longer works. I was unlucky enough to be enabling the phone in the 90min window when the borked release was available!
Will have to downgrade it at some point.
Thing is - it's not Messengers fault - other apps have the same issue!
Because Apple have put the pics "behind" the camera roll/recent pics album, the apps can't see them.
holst have you thought of upgrading your text with paragraphs. 🙂
Edit - I see I'm not the only one to have found that unreadable. Missed the previous post as I'm on a wireless network kindly supported by Microsoft which constantly keeps dropping out and only loading some of the page.
Because Apple have put the pics "behind" the camera roll/recent pics album, the apps can't see them.
Still see that as the Apps fault myself.
7 apps and counting including 3 photography ones - the apps fault Drac?
Have they updated to work with the operating system or ignored the changes?
Just tried Snapseed and works fine.
The apps have to ask permission to use the camera/photos. Thats how WhatsAp works with iOS8. I think I had 30 odd app updates for iOS8 vs 51 apps. More coming I assume.
It's not the permission - the main camera roll just isn't there.
Hang on,
Facebook can't access your pictures, and people are complaining? I'm amazed CountZero hasn't been along yet to tell us it's a great new security feature.
There's no pleasing some folk. (-:
I can see my photos from facebook, camera roll and all the sync'd albums. In fact the interface is better with iOS8. I would say it doesn;t seem to be able to see the whole iCloud stream (all 1000 photos) but perhaps I am not looking in the right place.
Instagram can see everything I think.
The first time I used these apps they asked for permission to use the camera
I'm amazed CountZero hasn't been along yet to tell us it's a great new security feature.
He's just reducing the word count of his original draft.
I believe he's currently got it down to a 4000 word paragraph. 8)
Thats the issue - I can "see" my camera roll - BUT only those in there since the upgrade.
What I can't see is the 4k that were there BEFORE the upgrade. There is no way of getting to them.
Wow 😯
You guys.. chiiiiiiilllllll out.
All my Photies are right where they should be..
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hats the issue - I can "see" my camera roll - BUT only those in there since the upgrade.
What I can't see is the 4k that were there BEFORE the upgrade. There is no way of getting to them.
Have you used the drop down menu to select another folder than "Camera Roll"?
Yes Drac - all my other albums are there but in "camera roll" there are only the most recent
That's the issue - the apps can't "see" the part where ALL pics are
Ah so it doesn't work how you want it to. Sorry I thought you meant you couldn't access your photos at all other than a few in the new folder.
The update from 0.0 to 0.1 is going well for me. According to the phone I'm not connected to the internet.
Legend
Sent from my iPhone
Not how I want it to - it doesn't work how it did before the bloody update.
Before had camera roll, photostream, etc
Now I'm lost.
Now I'm lost.
I thought they had improved Apple Maps?
Not how I want it to be. They changed it I don't like change.
In IOS7 FB messenger had access to all the albums.
Now in IOS8 while it can "see" all the albums, in "camera roll" ONLY the most recent pics are there and there is no way of getting to the rest in the camera roll.
So 4128 pics in my photos, 235 in most recent, 8 other albums.
FB messenger can only see the 235 most recent and the other albums.
The main pics folder simply does not exist
Can you remove them and re-add them perhaps, then they're "new"?
The main pics folder simply does not exist
you can still see all 4000 photos by clicking on Photos (not Albums) and then scrolling through them all. I'm sat here looking at 2500 photos on iOS8.
In messenger footflaps? I'm not on about in ios8 itself - I'm on about from within an app.
Cougar - why the **** should I have to remove 4k of pics and then put them back?
If it was one app is put it down to them - it's now 8 apps that can't access that part of the camera roll.
Because Apple have put "all photos" behind the main camera roll the apps can't see them - only the front end which is "recent added".
I don't have an issue with having "recently added" but why the **** can't they leave camera roll as ALL of the pics on there?
The moment an app wants to look at camera roll all it sees is recently added
Ok tested messenger.
I can see all my photos by well accessing the drop down menu.
It was hidden under the new way messenger works, it'll show you the most recent on the left there's a set of squares press that it opens up your photo album and then access the drop down menu.
Seems to a problem with iPhone to chair interface.
Drac - still only shows the most recent in "camera roll"
Seems to a problem with iPhone to chair interface.
Bloody iChair.
Drac - still only shows the most recent in "camera roll"
Yes that's changed but what you do have is access to all your photos which you claimed you don't.
Cougar - why the **** should I have to remove 4k of pics and then put them back?
Because it doesn't work. Obviously.
Anyway, quite why you need FB access to four thousand photos you took a while ago, I don't know. Surely you're only uploading what you had for dinner today rather than last week?
I can see all my photos by well accessing the drop down menu.It was hidden under the new way messenger works, it'll show you the most recent on the left there's a set of squares press that it opens up your photo album and then access the drop down menu.
Seems to a problem with iPhone to chair interface.
That doesn't work for me either Drac.
If I go into the normal "Photos" app I can see hit "Albums" icon then I only see photos that have been explicitly put into an album, plus the "Recently Added", "Videos" and "Recently Deleted" auto-albums.
There are only a few photos in each of these.
[i]That[/i] is what you see in FB Messenger (except it presents "Recently Added" as "Camera Roll")
Bit if I hit the "Photos" icon in the "Photos" app then I see the couple of thousand photos I really have on the phone presented as "Moments and Collections" - all of these used to appear in "Camera Roll", which is no longer there.
Anyway, quite why you need FB access to four thousand photos you took a while ago, I don't know.
Perhaps I have an amusing retort image that I like to post when people say silly things.
Guess I'll have to create an Amusing Retorts album and put them all in there.
Looks like you're already missing opportunities (-:
To be honest, I was more curious as to whether it would work rather than suggesting it as a serious solution. Cos, y'know, Android. But I'd assume (rightly or wrongly) that it'd be trivial to copy some data off and then back on again.