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[Closed] Sorry another laptop question well two, antivirus and battery/mains

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New laptop has free McAfee and w10 defender, I had read just use defender than I had a news article on my phone that said defender doesn't work since an update. So mcafee or it seems malwarebytes is something worth having or just defender , sorry I know nowt, also it's for me and the kids I know a dodgy link I think not so sure with those 11 and 13
Also is it better to leave it plugged in the the mains or charge when it drops to say 15 percent and unplug again I'm thinking the latter but thought I'd check with technology changing all the time
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Posted : 24/03/2020 8:44 am
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New laptop probably won't have "free" McAfee, it's most likely an x-day trial. I'd be uninstalling it with extreme prejudice at the first opportunity.

Create a non-admin account for your kids.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 8:59 am
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Ok thanks, I actually uninstalled the original one then worried and installed a free trial doh...
I've just found a battery conservation tool that charges to only 55_60 percent is that worth using, cheers, i shall look at non admin account set up


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 9:02 am
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Also is it better to leave it plugged in the the mains or charge when it drops to say 15 percent and unplug again I’m thinking the latter but thought I’d check with technology changing all the time

No. Charging and discharging cycles are what age batteries. You only get something like 500 cycles if you're lucky, so if you do this every day you'll get under 2 years from it.

Some people claim that if you leave it plugged in you are over-charging the battery, but this isn't true. It might've been true 30 years ago with a dumb battery charger and some standalone battery, but modern electronic devices are rammed with fancy controllers, one of which is for charging and battery management. So when your laptop battery is full it'll stop charging and the computer will power itself from the charger.

TL;DR - leave it plugged in all the time to save the battery.

I’ve just found a battery conservation tool that charges to only 55_60 percent is that worth using,

Not IMO no. Too much faff, not enough benefit. You're over thinking it. Laptops have been around a long time and designs have been refined to NOT require you to faff about with anything.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 9:17 am
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Ok thanks I will inform the kids I'd just told them to unplug it lol the battery tool was one of the options in the lenovo tool on the laptop cheers


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 9:23 am
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Not sure why the battery mode would be too much faff. Mine has an icon in the tray. I can choose a mode ("plugged in" is an option) and I can choose to optimise battery life or performance on a slider. Not sure if this is a lenovo thing or windows 10. I put mine in plugged in mode and leave it plugged in. Battery life is not what it was but it still works and it is 8 years old (I think, probably means it at least 10)


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 9:31 am
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Nick it's an option called conservation mode it says it will only charge to 55,60 percent then the battery lifespan is maximized but will shorten the times using it unplugged *obviously* but I wondered if charging to 55 then stopping was classed than as a charge cycle or better to leave it just sat at 100 percent always in the mains, I imagine that would get hot , it's all new to me though tbh


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 9:41 am
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If it's pre-installed by lenovo then it's not so bad. Personally still would not bother but maybe it's ok if you only plan to use it plugged in most of the time.

better to leave it just sat at 100 percent always in the mains, I imagine that would get hot

No, cos the computer detects when the battery is at 100% then stops putting current into it.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 9:53 am
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Cheers again


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 10:04 am
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Just leave it plugged in, not worth the hassle of anything else. Anecdotally I've been using laptops whilst working at home since 2008 and I've always just left them plugged in. The six year old Macbook Air we're now using as the kids laptop has a dying battery but it is six years old...

There is some clever magic the devices can do to preserve battery life but it's only really relevant on batteries that do discharge/charge cycles. I note that the new iOS on my phone knows that I basically leave it on charge overnight and get up at 7am, so now it does a trickle charge to be fully charged by 6am instead of fast charging until 2am.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 11:00 am

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