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It's likely that sitting on my car might push out a dent so that'd be good. But on the other hand, it could make a clean spot, which would be unsightly.
Opposite of the smaller.
Looks like everyone's popped out on the look out for MoseyMTB. 😆
captainsasquatch - Member
How worked up do you folks get when kids kick a ball into your garden
Not at all. Not too bothered the other day when parked next to a park and a football hit my car either. Unintentioned events are different to a form of potential vandalism.
Post on an internet forum?
OI... DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A PARK BENCH... JOG ON. or something
Is it just my screen that's showing the above posts a bit, buggered?
EDIT: And mine!
I'm scared.
How worked up do you folks get when kids kick a ball into your garden
We live on the end of a row of flats.
I'm glad that kids these days play GTA and CoD, that way they aren't surprised by the language used when they decide to play "kick the ball as high and hard against the wall as possible". One little s even fell about laughing when he managed to knock our window closed, and the little s's have knocked the cables off the ariel too.
I used to think it was the product of the rougher estate the other side of the park. Now I'm starting to think that maybe basic respect for other peoples property is lacking from the middle classes based on some of this thread!
Right, this is really freaking me out now. Can someone please confirm the forum is broken so I can get out from underneath my stairs?
What's going on!!!!
Did someone lean on the Internet?
No, jambourgie, I dont! 😀
I've already shit my pants and said goodbye to my loved ones.
Didn't take long.
Dudes. The Internet police are after all of us. We've collectively broken Codes 22, 67 & 437-b. We've been too self-absorbed, too argumentative and not shown enough pictures of 'cute' cats.
Run for gods sake! While you still have time! It's too late for m...
Right, this is really freaking me out now. Can someone please confirm the forum is broken so I can get out from underneath my stairs?
On the plus side that epic-tv advert has also gone so now I can actualy open more than one STW window without the computer slowing to a crawl
Moses - Member
Cars have metal shells so that the sensitive insides don't get damaged. These shells are designed to take the occasional 80mph piece of gravel hitting them, seagull poo and all sorts. Someone sitting on them with feet on the ground, or putting keys down isn't likely to cause harm, so get off your high horse.
Or keep it in the garage if you're so precious.
So, I see a clearly expensive bike propped against a wall, quite possibly yours, and instead of standing next to it, or sitting on the wall, because my poor tired little legs can barely support me any more, I sit on the bike, causing it to move and slide against whatever its leaning against, thus putting deep gouges in the paint and the underlying structure, possibly carbon.
I guess you're perfectly OK with some random person showing such a total lack of respect to something that cost you a lot of money.
I guess you're ok with people tossing their garbage into your garden, pissing into it, and taking a dump there as well, all things that show an equal lack of respect for the rights of others. 🙄
And this page has definitely taken a turn for the odd-looking, too.
Still, nice to not have any adverts flickering away on the right-hand side... 😉
It's only [s]a car[/s] [s]a wife[/s] a bike .
FTFY
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Well that took a little longer than I expected, but we got there in the end.
From a person merely sitting on a car to (and a risk to scratching the lacquer)...
So, I see a clearly expensive bike propped against a wall, quite possibly yours, and instead of standing next to it, or sitting on the wall, because my poor tired little legs can barely support me any more, I sit on the bike, causing it to move and slide against whatever its leaning against, thus putting [b]deep gouges in the paint and the underlying structure, possibly carbon.[/b]
...the threat of something being written off. Excellent work sir. 😆
There's a perfectly good, sturdy stone wall next to it if anyone wants to sit down
Speaking of, a whie ago I was chatting on my phone and felt like a sit down so sat on a wall. Out runs homeowner asking me what I thought I was doing. Strange people ...
Oh for god's sake.....
I live in a city. My car has to live on the street as there were no garages built 120 years ago. It's been accidentally scratched by other peoples' bad parking, and a mirror written off. It's a pain, but it happens.
I don't condone behaviour that would cause damage, but I can't see how leaning / sitting on a car (not bearing much weight) or putting keys down on it would be objectionable. You know what? Sometimes I rest my gloves and helmet on the bike on the other side of the Sheffield stand when I'm locking my bike. I can't see a problem with that, nor would I object if someone did the same to mine.
And kids sit or stand on my wall most days on the way home from school. Big deal, so what? It's so they can jump out onto the pavement to scare their mummies. Why on earth would I object?
Is this sexually charged fight night
(Note no question mark)
Who's sat on t'interpipe?
Can anyone else see that 'hasta la vista' wrongness up there?
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I came back to find a couple placing there child on my motorbike so he could have his picture taken, I wasn't too impressed but no violence was dished out, I let them finish, in the hope he would one day remember that moment when he got his first motorbike.
As if by some cosmic brilliance, as lve read this thread...
Peter Griffin and Homer Simson have just been knocking ten bells out of each other, on Family Guy.
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so no-one wears jeans with rivets in them anymore?
maybe those hipster sisters jeans that will not fit you if you have cyclists legs dont, but most 'dad' jeans still do
that is how 'lounging' against a car can damage the paintwork. If you want to lean on acar , lean on your own car , not someone elses
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My stepfather is like this - they have a couple of lovingly restored vintage cars. He is such a show-off he has to park it dead outside the very front of everywhere we go in it (wineries, usually) then we get some relief from his tedious banging on about the car, as Mother and I go and have a nice lunch while he guards it from people touching it and bores the face off passers-by. Brilliant system from my point of view !
I bought him a Chauffeur's Hat, but got a telling off as that was deemed to be "too far".
I wouldn't do it to a friends car so I wouldn't expect anyone to think of it as normal.
What if someone's cat sits on your car? Is it OK to shoot it with an air rifle?
Cats are there to be stroked. A great destresser.
Ask yourselves this question: Did someone sit on yr car or did they actually Find You In The Alps?
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Steady. What if it's not your cat, but it's sitting on your car? You'd still touch it?
😉
If your motor vehicle is that precious, buy a property with a drive or garage - if it's parked on a public road it's fair game 😛
My cat [i]hates [/i]staying in the garage. It likes to sit on peoples' cars, on the street.
My car is filthy and has an over-sensitive alarm. I've never seen anyone sitting on it.
What about when a friend unloads his bike from my car and leans his wheels, or worse his bike, against the car? Should I resort to violence immediately? 🙂
So, some people care, some people don't and some people troll.
Malvern Rider - Member
Ask yourselves this question: Did someone sit on yr car or did they actually Find You In The Alps?
"This is what happens when you feed a stranger scrambled eggs"
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Ok, the "I hate cars" crowd just seems to be trolling.... What about if your motorbike was parked up and someone leaned against it?
I'd be pissed (car or bike), it's disrespectful at the very least, regardless of how precious I felt about the car/bike in question.
Ok, the "I hate cars" crowd just seems to be trolling.... What about if your motorbike was parked up and someone leaned against it?
This is pretty much the grounding of my position. I came down to the street one day to find an adult holding a child on the seat of my motorbike. Was I bothered? Initially yes, than I reaslised that no harm was being done.
Secondly I wasn't able to watch the bike 24/7 and most certainly wasn't going to worry about things that [i]could[/i] or [i]might[/i] happen.
I used to drive to events that had large fan followings and people would use the car as a rest, again I wasn't going to stress myself about it.
Wanton vandalism and destuction is another thing, but someone sitting/leaning/brushing/looking at it in an aggressive manner is hardly anything to get my knickers in a twist about.
But if that's all you've got to worry yourselves about, count yourselves very lucky.
hilldodger - Member
If your motor vehicle is that precious, buy a property with a drive or garage - if it's parked on a public road it's fair game
I'd love to be able to afford a new property with a garage
It's the equivalent of someone lifting your bike up to see how much it weighs, and some of you really need to sort your lives out.
[i]It's the equivalent of someone lifting your bike up to see how much it weighs[/i]
Do you really think that?
Someone lifting your bike would be interested in it.
Someone sitting on your car would be contemptuous.
They're the same are they? Duh.
Yes, they are more-or-less the same thing. No damage done to either. What's the problem?
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I don't give a toss about my car, but someone sitting on it wouldn't be welcome.
So you would sit on a stranger's car? Yeah, dream on.
Never mind sitting
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My OH is struggling to walk very far at the moment, so we hired a mobility scooter to get round a theme park on holiday recently.
Parked up outside a shop, went for a hobble round and came out to find some bloke sitting on it. Seemed quite put out when I went "erm, excuse me..."
Still, it was "only a scooter," and she'd probably have had to actually fall over before she'd sufficiently earned others' respect, hey.
Someone sitting on your car would be contemptuous.
Talk about ascribing intent.
Anyway, yes I do really think that. They are materially equivalent.
[i]Talk about ascribing intent.[/i]
And you actually do live in the real world?
I ask again - would YOU sit on a stranger's car?
No, I wouldn't personally do so, but I don't see it as a problem.
Using terms like "contemptuous" and "respect" shows this is really about territory and defensiveness rather than the actual risk of damage. It's a git-orf-my-land thing for those less well endowed. (Property-wise of course. I have my suspicions of the other)
If there were a real risk of damage I could see your point, but if someone's just idly leaning on a vehicle or wall etc it would be a fuss about nothing.
If someone could lift my car I'd be really impressed.
As long as they controlled it on the way down and didn't drop it suddenly, anyway.
For those who don't give 2 hoots about your cars and are making light of this.
How about you have carefully laid your bike on the ground. Ensured the rear mech isn't resting on any rocks and are having a nice break whilst talking to your fellow riders.
I am keen to have a look at you bike laid there on the ground. In my efforts to have a look at it I manage to step onto your nice rims and light weight spokes. As its a super dupa bike I expect them rims can withstand someones body weight standing on them. Its only a bike anyhow. Imagine if the guy realises he is stood on your rim/bike and thinks its funny and tries to balance on your rim whilst talking to his friends about it.
At what point do you stop laughing it off as no issue?
Its just another sign of peoples ignorance of other people having their own values.
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I am keen to have a look at you bike laid there on the ground. In my efforts to have a look at it I manage to step onto your nice rims and light weight spokes. As its a super dupa bike I expect them rims can withstand someones body weight standing on them. Its only a bike anyhow. Imagine if the guy realises he is stood on your rim/bike and thinks its funny and tries to balance on your rim whilst talking to his friends about it.
And here we go to an extreme again. Why not just stick with the guy picking up your bike and having a sit on it? There's no need to include imaginary scenarios and invented damage to support your claim, I imagine that those who accept someone sitting on their car can differentiate between a harmless act and wanton damage. I too would be less than pleased if your cycling example buddy decided to walk over the top of my car, but I wouldn't be wetting myself if said example rested their butt on my car.
This is providing me with much amusement.
I ask again - would YOU sit on a stranger's car?
For me it's not about whether I'd sit on someone else's car, it's, as the OP asked, whether I'd get my knickers in a twist about someone sitting on mine. I wouldn't and haven't been arsed. HTH.
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[i]No, I wouldn't personally do so, but I don't see it as a problem.[/i]
Righto. So why not then?
How is it extreme? The damage caused by someone sitting on my cars wing/bonnett is most definitely comparable with the damage that could be caused by me mistakenly stepping onto your bikes wheel whilst trying to have a good look at it.
So your last statement of
For me it's not about whether I'd stand on someones wheel/bike, it's, as the OP asked, whether I'd get my knickers in a twist about someone standing on mine. I wouldn't and haven't been arsed. HTH
That's a lovely viewpoint. I hope you are happy with that. I bet if I went to glentress and tested your theory, the majority would be pretty peeved.
If there were a real risk of damage I could see your point, but if someone's just idly leaning on a vehicle or wall etc it would be a fuss about nothing.
Someone who lacks the manners not to lean on what might be someone's pride and joy is almost certainly the sort of person who gives two hoots whether they damage it or not.
Because that's what it's about, really. It's manners, it's respecting other people's stuff. It might be fine, of course; the owner may not care, you might not damage it. Or a stud on your jeans might gouge it, or the metal might not be as load-bearing as it looks. And whether it's Ferarri you've parked your "it's only a car" arse onto or a £300 Fiat, someone somewhere might love it dearly and be absolutely gutted when they find the damage. They might not have money for repairs, so it rusts and rots where you've taken the paint off. Sure, it's "only" a car, but it's not yours so buy a bloody walking stick or at least have the common decency to ask first.
Incidentally, why do we keep talking about walls like they're the same thing? Anyone who believes they're directly comparable, give me a yell; you can come and drag a key down my wall and I'll drag a key down the side of your car. We could exchange kicks to them as well if you like, or play cricket against them. Seems fair, no?
You on the other hand, are C. Montgomery Burns; the rod up your ass has got a rod up its ass.
Seymour Skinner, actually.
That's a lovely viewpoint. I hope you are happy with that. I bet if I went to glentress and tested your theory, the majority would be pretty peeved.
Apparently I am and I bet I wouldn't (couldn't give a toss about the majority). What would peeve me though is a mountain bike rim that would be damaged merely by someone standing on it. That would worry me a lot.
If I may go back to this post from yesterday.
Who the **** are you to decide how other people should prioritise what is important to them?
It would appear that now it is all the precious folk who think it correct to tell me how I should prioritise what is important to me. Funny old world. 😆
What about your lovely lightweight spokes taking a sideways load. I am a lot heavier than I used to be too. Please don't hold that against me. No one has discussed the size of the person sitting on the car yet.
So I bend a few spokes with my ill mannered attempt to have a deek at your bike. Maybe I have spds on so I scratch your rims a bit too.
Your attitude is indeed refreshing.
No one is telling you how to prioritise your what is important to you. By all means treat your own stuff like scrap. As I said earlier its refreshing.
But it takes a certain kind of knob to take their own low standards and expect them to be maintained by others.
What about your lovely lightweight spokes taking a sideways load.
That's the extremism bit. Someone resting their arse against the wing of your car is in no way comparable to someone standing on lightweight spokes.
Maybe I have spds on so I scratch your rims a bit too.
You did say it was a mountain bike, didn't you? 😆
But [b]it takes a certain kind of knob[/b] to take their own low standards and expect them to be maintained by others.
Steady tiger.
[i]That's the extremism bit. Someone resting their arse against the wing of your car is in no way comparable to someone standing on lightweight spokes[/i]
Been in the motor trade for over 20yrs. Rode mountain bikes for over a decade until I injured myself and had to quit. I am very qualified to be able to tell you both would cause comparable damage. You wouldn't believe how many new vehicles end up getting 'smart' repairs carried out because some muppet has sat on a wing
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What about those London cycle couriers who rest their sweaty hands on the top of your car roof whilst waiting in traffic?? Logically, I can't see any reason against it, but illogically I still don't like them doing it to my car. 🙁
If you want your car to remain undamaged, I'd probably not annoy them too much - ask nicely!
D-lock quick-draw.
[quote=natrix ]What about those London cycle couriers who rest their sweaty hands on the top of your car roof whilst waiting in traffic?? Logically, I can't see any reason against it, but illogically I still don't like them doing it to my car.
Edit: just realised I've posted in and amongst the petty squabbling. 🙄
I spent yesterday morning on car park duty, for my sons football club tournament. We decided that bangers would be parked next to the pitches, whilst decent motors would be parked a bit further away. The point being, that there are lots of stray balls that get hit out during the matches.
Nobody knew that we were doing this, but it just felt disrespectful to guide a brand new Audi into a spot next to an under 11 football match.
Respecting other peoples property, is actually respecting the person.
My car would have been firmly in the 'banger' row, in case you're wondering.
Respecting other peoples property, is actually respecting the person.
Sounds like you have more respect for the wealthy.
rene59 - Member
Respecting other peoples property, is actually respecting the person.
Sounds like you have more respect for the wealthy.
Most of those brand new Audis will be lease cars so I doubt that he's even respecting the correct owner. And whether the driver is really more wealthy than someone driving an old crate? Well, at least I own my rusty crate, not rent it. 😉
[i] just realised I've posted in and amongst the petty squabbling[/i]
It just makes me realise that the internet is full of "people" that don't actually exist in real life.
I could guarantee that a survey of real people (eg. in this building I'm in now) would result in 100% "It's not ok". And yet, on the internet....
i agree, it's not up to individuals to decide that they can lean/sit/lie on someone elses vehicle. Clothing does scratch paint. I too have worked bloody hard and paid a lot of money for my car and i wont abide by individuals treating it like shit, it's not their property it's mine. I've already had a delivery driver scratch it, along with old people who don't give a toss about opening doors on to it (who said the church was full of upstanding people...w@nkers). I agree some of the analogies here are a bit OTT, but the points people are trying to make are valid, do what you want to your stuff, but for other peoples unless invited, keep off!
gofasterstripes - Member
If you want your car to remain undamaged, I'd probably not annoy them too much - ask nicely!
I'm probably over sensitive as since living in my house for less than a year someone has been deliberately scratching all along the shoulder line on the side parked next to the pavement. Then around 6 months ago someone decided it would be a good idea to walk over it, denting the boot and bonnet
[quote=IdleJon ]Most of those brand new Audis will be lease cars so I doubt that he's even respecting the correct owner.
He appears to be respecting the person it will cost if the car gets dented rather than the owner if that's what you mean - but that's the person he thinks he's respecting...
What about those London cycle couriers who rest their sweaty hands on the top of your car roof whilst waiting in traffic?? Logically, I can't see any reason against it, but illogically I still don't like them doing it to my car.
Have been asked many times to remove hand/finger marks etched into the clearcoat caused by suncream/moisturiser/oils etc on hands. Gets onto the bodywork and reacts with sunlight leaving milky etched prints all over the place.
Also repaired many scratches from people leaning on cars and marking with zips/buckles/keys/studs etc.
Both situations earned me good money regularly, so I'm kind of glad there are so many idiots around who think it's ok
But all the people comparing sitting on a car with sitting on a wall haven't got a bloody clue what they are talking about 🙂
I presume you don't detail walls then, neal?
And that's why I won't buy a new car.
I've watched people scratch, flung doors, reverse into my car - all accidentally.
Don't get attached to silly objects or you'll be sad.
Don't sit on other people's cars unless 'someone going to get a hurt real bad'.