[Closed] Some dog owners

some people are dick heads, end of

is that a rant? the triple question mark ending, sort of, suggests it might be

Gotta love the snarling angry beast growling and baring his teeth at you, completely out of control and not on a lead. This is accompanied by the owner cheerily saying 'don't worry, it's bikes he doesn't like'

Yeah? well just what the *&^% do you think this is I'm sitting on?

Walking through the park last week and two guys with several big labs and they were all running around all over the path as they were being made more excitable by the owners (teasing them with balls pretending to be thrown etc).

I walked by them and then one of the labs ran into the back of my legs nearly taking me off my feet.

Me being me, I just shouted at the owners for not keeping them under control.

The question is though - what would Wonnie Pickewin do?

The question is though - what would Wonnie Pickewin do?

Suppose that depends on whether the dog knew who he is

two guys with several big labs

I know not all dog owners are that irresponsible but the ones that are are dick heads !

Dog muck and dog muck in bags.

I'm sure he'd rather have had another croissant

'Gotta love the snarling angry beast growling and baring his teeth at you.'

Thought you were referring to the OP 😀

I have a big daft lab. When i see people/other dogs approach i always put him on the lead, if they are dog savvy I let him off, if not i keep him on the lead.

Dog muck and dog muck in bags.

Thanks for letting us know about that OP.

I love the thread title edit that leaves the url as it was 🙂

My Wife is terrified of dogs after being attacked as a child and despite trying hard not to, it's now rubbed off on our Daughter. I explained this this to an owner in the woods last week and she still laughed as her loveable scamps beared their teeth and growled at my petrified family. If anyone else finds themselves in the same situation, I discovered that finding a stout stick and then baseball batting the animal around the head has the desired effect.
I don't particularly dislike dogs but it's always such a joy to go the Big Bike Bash and not have to put up with other peoples' mutts.

I've had kids run up to my dog when its on a lead. The parents just say "oh, little Jonny just wants to play with the dog, its all right". I guess some parents are c u next tuesdays as well.

had one dog try to bite my tyres once, he actively tried to target and deflate my rear tyre with his big growling incisors. The woman says 'its okay he got hit by a bike once' Oh thats okay then. I was more surprised by the cleverness of the dog trying to deflate my tyre.

Was it a chocolate croissant ?

I've had kids run up to my dog when its on a lead. The parents just say "oh, little Jonny just wants to play with the dog, its all right".

So now we have a scared son with no food and did the dog owner say sorry no did they offer to pay for another croissant no.

Be honest now. Your son hadn't tidied up had he?

Sorry? You have a dog, take it out in public then get upset at children coming up to it wanting to stroke it?

It's not wise to let you kids run up to strange dogs without asking if the dog is Ok.

johndoh,correct. I have an old dog who doesnt like to be bothered. As Drac says, not wise at all.

It's not wise to let you kids run up to strange dogs without asking if the dog is Ok.

It's not wise to let you kids run up to strange dogs without asking if the dog is Ok.

Ohh I agree (I always ask permission before letting my girls near a dog). I guess it comes down to the interpretation of what he was saying though - it sounded to me like he didn't want to be bothered by people.

"My son only wants to play with your dog"

"That's great, my dog is on a lead because he only wants to bite your son's face off. Shall we let them both have a bit of fun?"

Sorry? You have a dog, take it out in public then get upset at children coming up to it wanting to stroke it?

What's wrong with that, it's his dog not a petting zoo. Would you let a passing stranger have a quick go on your bike?

They can then ensure that their animal knows the hierarchical order of their pack is owner & owners family -> all other people -> dog

And parents can teach their kids that some dogs bite so it's best to ask.

What I do think is a good idea though is:

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What's wrong with that, it's his dog not a petting zoo.

Fair enough, but what do you expect to happen when you take a dog out in public?

I'd expect to be left the hell alone to walk my dog in peace, to be honest. Other people's parenting inabilities are not my concern, perhaps they should get them leads or something?

The irony here is, this is exactly the same situation as non-dog owners who don't want some uncontrolled mutt slutched up to the fetlocks leaping up at them to them regardless of how many times he's never bitten anyone.

The bottom lime is, you don't get to invade other people's personal space without invitation, whether that's with a child or an animal or anything else. Someone's basic right to go about their business without being mithered by strangers does not suddenly go out of the window because they happen to have something cute with them.

They might not mind being approached, they might welcome it even, they might love nothing more than to give a dog a quick pat or bring joy to a small dogless child, but critically that's [i]their call to make,[/i] their place to offer, not yours to take with a self-entitled "you've got something I want to play with so what do you expect"? Jesus christ man, that's the same argument used by sex pests.

You are not a very tolerant person then are you Cougar. Do you have any social skills other than being angry on here?

Yes actually, I'm angry in lots of other places. (-:

More seriously, I'm also Aspie, so my social skills dictate that I would often very much like to be left alone by people I don't know unless I choose otherwise, thanks very much.

I'd expect to be left the hell alone to walk my dog in peace, to be honest.

Really? Dog walking's not like that, it's a social activity, and a certain amount of talking to other people comes with the territory.

More seriously, I'm also Aspie, so my social skills dictate that I would often very much like to be left alone by people I don't know unless I choose otherwise, thanks very much.

Really? Dog walking's not like that, it's a social activity, and a certain amount of talking to other people comes with the territory.

It wouldn't be if I had a dog. I'm sure it can be a social activity if you [i]choose[/i] to make it so. Ooh, there's that c-word again that some people seem to find so difficult.

It wouldn't be if I had a dog. I'm sure it can be a social activity if you choose to make it so. Ooh, there's that difficult c-word again.

That would be extremely unfair on the dog, as they need access to their own species as well as humans. Which means you end up talking to their owners. Please don't get a dog.

It wouldn't be if I had a dog

so you are getting angry about walking a dog you don't have?

son decides running away is the best option even though I'm telling him to stand still

well in that case

control the [s]dog[/s] son or don't let it off a bloody [s]lead[/s] harness

Actually, to be honest, you may have a point about the 'public' thing if you're talking about parks full of children and suchlike. I probably wouldn't be walking a dog in such a place in the first place (because dog mess and children's play areas are not good bedfellows), I was taking 'public' to mean places like the canal towpath which is a popular dog toilet near where I live.

many people seem to get dogs who don't have children. Food for thought.
many people with dogs treat them as their children. they aren't.
many people with dogs let them crap everywhere. don't.
dogs are lower in the pecking order than people and should be taught this.
dogs are in essence wild animals, albeit largely domesticated, they can be unpredictable.
teach your children to approach cautiously and always ask the owners if they can say hello and even then do it carefully.
I'm more a cat person but I don't mind dogs.

Girlfriend was out jogging last week, saw a person she knew walking towards her on the footpath with his two dogs. She stopped to speak with him, started having a chat (now standing still) and one of the dogs bit her on the leg. Trip to docs, puncture marks and bruising on leg, ripped clothing, now on antibiotics.

Dog owners response at the time... 'Did my dog just bite you? He's never done that before'

Few days later, driving along a narrow road, couple on pavement with a small dog. The dog is on an extendable lead and as we approach the owner let's the dog's lead extend and allows the dog to run onto the road. I brake, avoid the dog, all ok. But the dog owner doesn't seem to care, when I explain to her how dangerous her actions were and that she should keep her dog under control when walking beside a road with traffic.

Back to OP. Maybe (probably) it's due to me getting older/grumpier but it does seem like the number of dic&head dog owners is on the increase. By Dic&head I mean they don't take responsibility for their dog, don't/can't control it and seem to be unable to understand that not everyone likes dogs.

Perhaps the only course of action when attacked/bitten/molested by a dog is to retaliate and defend by battering the dog?

I've not been long in from a meeting at work.

On the way back I passed several dogs and all were well behaved.

True story.

Maybe (probably) it's due to me getting older/grumpier but it does seem like the number of dic&head dog owners is on the increase. By Dic&head I mean they don't take responsibility for their dog,

Which means you end up talking to their owners. Please don't get a dog.

Sounds like as good a reason as any not to. (-: But no, I have no intentions of doing so.

so you are getting angry about walking a dog you don't have?

(-: Not exactly.

Firstly, I'm not angry.

Second, my argument is about the attitude some people have regarding their kids or their animals; that they can do no wrong and get horribly defensive at the suggestion that the rest of the world might not think the sun shines out of the proverbials of their little darlings.

I'm a cat person, but I love dogs too. I'll happily pat a waggy dog and ask it how it likes being a dog if I'm out walking and meet one coming the other way, and maybe exchange pleasantries with its owners.

What I don't like is hosing dog mess out of my tyres, being jumped up at by a pooch that's just run through a muddy river, or have one bearing down on me like an exocet when I don't know what it's going to do next (doubly so on the bike). It amazes me, absolutely amazes me that some people seem to think all these situations are equal.

Largely, I'm in agreement with Cougar here. And I own a bloody dog. 🙂 People have a right to be just going about their own business and not be jumped on, have food stolen from their kids, have their bags sniffed (aracer...that's for you if you're reading 🙂 ), their picnics ruined, etc etc.

Anyway, sometimes in our park, a dog'll come bounding up to us and its owner is a distant speck on the other side of the park. This very rarely happens with children, funnily enough. Although, because our dog is small and cute and has a "come-and-give-me-a-fuss" face, lots of kids do come to say hello when she's in close proximity. Most people ask if it's ok, which it is, as she's harmless to humans. However, I'm always quick to reassure any child that does approach us, and if their parent is not that close, the dog has a firm hand on the collar while it's being fussed. Thing is, I do believe that most dog owners take this approach, But sadly, plenty don't either. It's funny, my little boy is fine with our dog, and the few other big dogs he knows well. However, he's not keen on strange dogs coming up to him and messing around - can't understand how this has happened, we've never made an issue of it, so I guess it just happens with some kids. Slightly annoying for us, but it's a quick reminder of how to behave around other kids that might be shit-scared of ours.

@ Drac - You were duped mate - a few minutes before, whilst you weren't looking, they'd been crapping over the local footpaths whilst their lazy fuc&wit owners did nothing to clear up 🙂

Bastards! I fell for the ploy.

I reckon the jogger running infront of the car forcing it do an emergency stop was in on it.

I'll happily pat a waggy dog and ask it how it likes being a dog if I'm out walking and meet one coming the other way, and maybe exchange pleasantries with its owners.

Bt you said this before...

The bottom lime is, you don't get to invade other people's personal space without invitation, whether that's with a child or an animal or anything else. Someone's basic right to go about their business without being mithered by strangers does not suddenly go out of the window because they happen to have something cute with them.

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I dunno, but I can see that those two quotes are far from mutually exclusive.

A dog with walkers can generally be ignored as it's more likely to be calm and happy having had a proper walk, rather than hyper because it's only out long enough to fill a baggie. So I can choose to interact with an approaching dog or not as I feel fit. Oh, there's that word again.

many people seem to get cats who don't have children. Food for thought.
many people with cats treat them as their children. they aren't.
many people with cats let them crap everywhere. don't.
cats are lower in the pecking order than people and should be taught this.
cats are in essence wild animals, albeit largely domesticated, they can be unpredictable.
teach your children to approach cautiously and always ask the owners if they can say hello and even then do it carefully.
I'm more a dog person but I don't mind cats.

My dog is part of my family. I'm a responsible dog owner. I hope you and your son have some nicer interactions with dogs and their human soon.