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I think the most impressive thing is the net spend of £90m odd over the past 5 years. A very well run club with a clear plan.
I'm no Utd or Liverpool fan so I'm enjoying watching the from afar.
Two things I've noticed:
1. Liverpool fans are really pleased they've won and don't seem to be obnoxious about it. Just proud and relieve about their own team.
2. Man Utd fans being REALLY bothered by it and lots of mentioning how Liverpool can't celebrate/have a parade/first time they've won in years/no-one there to see it, etc. Classic Vicky Pollarding. Very amusing. Some individuals not realising that them trying to downplay or negate Liverpool's victory elevates it far more than just saying "well done fellas, see you next season". Aaah, football!
As to Liverpool, really well done.
(edit, not all fans of course, but how my social media looks!)
Yeah Liverpool fans are so pleased that they've won, that they set their beloved Liver building on fire last night. I just really don't get football fan mentality at all.
Boom. Can I claim my five pounds now?
Could be that the idiot setting a building on fire wasn't doing so to celebrate a football victory?
Eh?!
He was stood in the middle of a mass gathering of Liverpool fans celebrating their victory....he fired a firework at the building and the crowd cheered when it hit.
But yeah maybe he wasn't there celebrating the win 😂
To be fair, setting fire to a building by firing a firework at it isn't exactly premeditated arson, is it?
I was wondering whether there will be enough matches for statisticians to put valid numbers on "home advantage". Not only wins/loses but cards and fouls the refs give out without 50,000 supporters hurling insults at them.
for all intents and purposes the league was already won, watching the sterile fa cup without out crowds is embarrassing, Leicester trying to get up a head of steam in the final minutes was impossible ... are they really going play the final behind closed doors! It's televised training games.
Hubris time - I think I’ll go back through some of the early posts from this thread just to see what some folk were saying back at the beginning of the season. binners isn’t going to come out of it that well... 😂
Here’s his first cracker...
binners
SubscriberI’m definitely having a fiver on him [Lampard] being the first Premiership manager to get the boot next season. Gone by Christmas, I reckon
Posted 12 months ago
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And by Christ, there’s so much more...
You must be bored DD! He’ll turn up again soon.
I was similarly sceptical about Chelsea and Lampard. Some very good players coming in to complement a lot of good, young talent. Like Klopp Lampard seems to be well liked by his players. I hate how they just seem to be to regenerate so quickly to become contenders again!
It’s a Sunday evening shortbread...so yeah, a bit bored. 😀 Anyway...on to page 2, and look, it’s binners again...
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SubscriberSomeone just sent me this. It made me laugh so I thought I’d share…
A man finds an old lamp and gives it a rub. Out pops the genie and tells him that he will grant the man one wish.
“I want eternal life”, says the man.
The genie explains that he can’t fulfil that particular wish.The man says, “OK then, I want to be there when Liverpool win the Premier league”.
“You crafty bastard”, says the genie.😂
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The man says, “OK then, I want to be there when Liverpool win the Premier league”.
“You crafty bastard”, says the genie.😂
Well TBF sounds like Binners and the genie knew COVID-19 was coming!
Well, if there’s one thing for sure, it’s that binners can’t tell the future so I don’t know where you got that one from...
Although, here he was getting something half right...
binners
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I’m going to have a bet on Liverpool and city finishing 25+ points clear of everyone else this season.
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Although, he needed to add, “by the beginning of March.” 😀
funny as ever
I was just having a giggle at the Davis Squire take. The man's a genius
Bravissimo - are you seriously dissecting my predictions? Jesus, you must be taking lockdown boredom to another level.
I'll just show you my betting account. There's no way any sane person would be stupid enough to put any money on anything I predict. I only wish I wasn't. Mind you, my own grasp on sanity has always been shaky.
Anyway... in an act of supreme masochism, I've been invited to and am actually going to be a sacrificial Manc for (SD) beers with 5 of my scouse mates celebrating their Premiership win on Thursday night. I think I owe them that after the 3 decades of amusement they've provided me with 😀
Wigan have gone into administration
Looks like another case of dodgy owners. It does make you wonder, yet again, what the EFL's 'right and proper' test actually involves?
The club stated on 4 June that under the EFL’s owners’ and directors’ test, the league had approved the sale to NLF by the owners since November 2018, International Entertainment Corporation (IEC), another Hong Kong-based, Cayman Islands-registered company, which owns a hotel and casino in the Philippines.
The EFL’s test and takeover process involves determining that a new owner has the money to buy a club and support it financially for at least the remainder of the season and the whole of the following season. However less than a month later and a week since Au Yeung was announced as the majority owner, the club has appointed the administrators Gerald Krasner and Paul Stanley, of insolvency practitioners Begbies Traynor.
I think they're going to have to look at the 12 points deduction otherwise next year's leagues could be decided by who manages not to go into administration. Apparently Sheffield Wednesday is teetering on the edge and potentially lots more are on the cusp of folding too after Covid
Bloody Hell Liverpool. Still at the party.
Crappy rule for the last goal to be chalked off, Foden had nothing to do with the ball hitting his arm after he was dragged down, it didn't create a goalscoring chance, Mahrez did that himself when he ran with the ball and put it past Alison.
Typical game between these two though, not much between them in play really but sometimes it just goes for one of the teams, the commentators tend to go overboard due to the scoreline rather than how the game was played.
Couple of very poor performances (Gomez especially - hooked at halftime) and collectively off it.
Quite looking forward to next season with Chelsea’s improvement and Ole being the messiah again, might be less of a procession.
Tough night for Liverpool that, didn't think they played badly for most of the game, but that was a stuffing 🙁
Quite looking forward to next season with Chelsea’s improvement and Ole being the messiah again, might be less of a procession
Ole is the new Pardew, I expect utd to have a winning run, then a losing run, or vice versa. Chelski will probably be in with a shout though.
Interesting to see what happens in the transfer market with finances affected by cv19, will prices drop due to selling clubs being short of funds and needing to sell to survive, or will they hold out for pre cv19 negotiated release clauses. IMO players were agreeing to overly high release clauses anyway even before price finances took a dive, they may find themselves trapped in contracts that don't reflect their ambitions.
Interesting to see what happens in the transfer market with finances affected by cv19
We just sold a player who's been injured for most of the season to Bayern for 44 million (10 more than we paid a couple of years back), I'm not sure that the bottom has fallen out of the market just yet, or at least not for the big clubs.
How long do current tv contracts have to run? The end of those will be the moment of truth, certainly for the smaller PL clubs. I think the only reason we're seeing the end of this PL season is that the alternative was voiding the contracts and giving the firms a chance to renegotiate/pull out.
The premier league are having to pay back a chunk of the tv rights already, and the loss of matchday revenue isn't a small amount.
Bayern have made such a public pursuit of Sane, they would have looked like fools if they hadn't signed him, I am not sure that will be representative of other transfers. If city had gone after a Bayern player in such a manner, Bayern would have thrown a tantrum and city would have been fined for publicly tapping up players.
Agree MSP. I think prices will be down. Good example is Liverpool refusing to pay the price for Timo Werner.
There was an article yesterday that the Premier League are charging the newly promoted teams £8M to make up for the loss of TV revenue. Actually it was all teams but the newly promoted ones are being hard done by.
Agree MSP. I think prices will be down. Good example is Liverpool refusing to pay the price for Timo Werner.
And United telling Dortmund there’s no way they’re paying 110 million for Sancho.
With regard to VAR, I now hate it more than ever as I had a daft bet on City beating Liverpool 5-0. Curse you VAR!!!
That wasn't var's fault, it is a stupid rule that they brought in, if a ball hits a scoring teams players arm, no matter if it is deliberate or if it has any affect on the goal, the goal is disallowed.
This twitter thread on Wigan is wild
https://twitter.com/marksparko/status/1279000646335836163?s=20
It seems far fetched but nothing surprises me anymore
Sky might be trolling the gooners with the crowd noise, they seem to have been recorded during the "wenger out" period 🙂
Nice to see Jose carrying on his unique brand of bold, adventurous, creative attacking football. Thank Christ it’s no longer with us.
Good luck Spurs. Enjoy mid-table obscurity. Try not to doze off 😂
Gutted when the Bournemouth goal was disallowed, Spurs deserved to lose
I bet the Spurs players agents are busy at the moment. I doubt Kane and Son, in particular, will fancy hanging around for much more of that.
Not a single shot on target in the whole match? I remember that well. Classic Jose
Good job Tottenham's book are well balanced as I don't see Jose filling that new stadium anytime soon with his style of play.
eh? Can’t for the life of me see how that is a penalty to Utd. What is VAR doing?
It's always a penalty to Utd. How many now this season.
To be fair to us, it’s only usually always a penalty when we’re at home. And only most of the time when we’re away
Anyway... Greenwood’s looking tasty again. 4 in 3
Only 30 odd points off top of the table with a win tonight. That’s really good going for Utd.
Something you’ve had 3 decades to identify with though eh, Bravissimo?
You never know, next year might be ‘our year’? Deffo, laaaa! 😂
Oh Ok binners - I can see you’re still not quite over it yet. Maybe a few more weeks.
Ole’s doing a great job with Utd isn’t he? To get them within a shout of a UCL place - 5th this year all going to plan with CAS. He really should stay I reckon. Don’t you?
I’m just happy to watch us playing some decent attacking footy after the spirit-crushing tedium of Maureen and LVG.
I think we all know where we are. We’re realists, not getting giddy.
I think Ole is indeed doing a great job. This is a marathon, not a sprint
If they sign a decent centre half, maybe two, get rid of de Gea and get a right back who can cross, they’ll not be far off next season. Worrying times.
This is a marathon, not a sprint
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Can we all agree, at least, that the best thing about the re-start is that Roy Keane has clearly been getting angrier and angrier during lockdown, Storing up all his fury ready to unleash his scathing verbal assaults on an unprepared world.
It’s a joy to watch 😃
Everton were very poor earlier against Wolves. They just looked disinterested.
I didn’t see the match, but thought it would be an easy Wolves win
Watching Arsenals comedy defending just now was quite amusing though. Proper Sunday League stuff. An absolute shambles!
Kolasinac basically played the the perfect pass for Son to tuck it away. And David Luiz surely has to be the player who’s ridiculous transfer fees are most inexplicable. He’s absolutely hopeless!
The whole thing, FFP, right and proper person nonsense is box ticking shite, football is ALL about money now, nothing else.
Yep the ban was a joke, the FFP rules were always about protecting the established hierarchy, disguised as establishing a level playing field.
The application of the rules have been uneven and underhand, with "european royalty" Munich, Madrid, Barca, United, Liverpool and Juventus having far too much influence not just in the creation of the rules but in pressurising uefa into who they have been applied against.
Yep the ban was a joke, the FFP rules were always about protecting the established hierarchy, disguised as establishing a level playing field.
The application of the rules have been uneven and underhand, with “european royalty” Munich, Madrid, Barca, United, Liverpool and Juventus having far too much influence not just in the creation of the rules but in pressurising uefa into who they have been applied against.
This x 1,000,000 - while there needs to be limits on spending as soon as it's against income it skews the playing field in the favour of the big established clubs. Trying to keep the new teams from the top table.
Makes it interesting for 3rd to 5th, with a few matches between the contenders and Chelsea to play Liverpool, with having to fight for position and Liverpool levels dropping a few percent, the points record is in the balance as well.
PrinceJohn
SubscriberYep the ban was a joke, the FFP rules were always about protecting the established hierarchy, disguised as establishing a level playing field.
The application of the rules have been uneven and underhand, with “european royalty” Munich, Madrid, Barca, United, Liverpool and Juventus having far too much influence not just in the creation of the rules but in pressurising uefa into who they have been applied against.
This x 1,000,000 – while there needs to be limits on spending as soon as it’s against income it skews the playing field in the favour of the big established clubs. Trying to keep the new teams from the top table.
Completely agree. If your club was brought by wealthy owners who invest in the area, academy and do everything right you'd be pretty happy. To me FFP is just a way to protect the existing hegemony rather than costs.
Cost caps do have a place but FFP is a joke.
Delighted with the verdict. I think pretty much any club could have been targeted by UEFA in the way that City were. There is no question with me that there is too much money in football but it has to be run on an even footing for all clubs and not for the benefit of cartel clubs which was the whole basis of "Financial Fair Play".
Juventus's Andrea Agnelli has been demanding guaranteed entry to the Champions League for certain "big" clubs which would make a mockery of the competition.
City's owners have been great for the club and Manchester in general. Contrast with United's.
You’ll probably find the Glazers have a better human rights record though. Just a thought.
Anyway... back to the footy
With Chelski and Leicester both getting thumped at the weekend, it’s our chance to capitalise and go third.
So, expect our form to collapse, at least one De Gea howler, Pogba to go AWOL (again) and a Danny Ings hat trick to end our unbeaten run.
lovely one from squires on Jack Charlton
dang. that last square is sad
that last square is sad
Just a bit – lump in my throat seeing that. I grew up adoring that Leeds team - when sniffer goes I will be especially sad as he was my hero and I have very fond memories of talking about him (and Leeds' exploits in general) with my late grandad when I was a little boy.
Come on Leeds, let's do it this year. MOT ALAW
Done it!
MOT
Lovely tribute above, RIP Norman, Trevor and Jack.
Well we've ****ing done it, done it for the lost, done it for the cold Tuesday night watching Leyton Orient, done it for the lad crying when we went down, and done it for many more!!
MOT, ALAW, WGUAFC!!!
If I’m not mistaken, I’ve just watched a really solid Arsenal defensive performance. it’s a good while since we’ve seen one of those
Jurgen was all about building their confidence earlier in the week. He’s such an amazing manager, he can give other teams self-belief as well. 😂
Is De Gea still one of the best keepers in the world????
He's not even the best keeper on united books. If I was Henderson, I would want some promises now about at least being able to fight for the no 1 goalkeeper spot on performance, otherwise I would be off.
As a Sheffield United supporter, I wish De Gea would sort his bloody act out 😭😂
Well after the anti-climactic post lockdown dip in form for the champions, this weekend has provided a bit of mirth. 😁
De Gea is doing a Joe Hart!
That was a proper Sunday league performance from De Gea. I reckon I could have saved that second one.
I love him, and he’s been bloody brilliant for seasons, but it’s just been one howler after another the last few games.
He’s like a shit(er) Jordan Pickford
DDG’s decline is bizarre. For a few years he was by far the best keeper in the league and one of the best in the world. I’ve heard comments saying he’s only good as a shot stopper but his %pass completion is actually pretty good.
He never seemed quite the same after coming back from the World Cup in Russia. I wonder if Xenia Onatopp honey-trapped him....
Not sure if I can see DDG ever getting back to his previous level, which is sad as he’s only 28.
For all his promise I don’t think Henderson is quite ready for that level yet, certainly not CL. But I hope Ole is thinking of a way to introduce him to the 1st team for next year.
Still, well done to Chelsea, who were much the better team last night. Albeit with two extra days to prepare, which might explain why they seemed to have more energy.
Watford sacking Pearson is very strange. He's almost saved them from what appeared to be certain relegation
However he does come across as a bit of a knob. There's probably something going on behind the scenes there.
What are you, an Ostrich?! Sacking is what Watford do.
There’s probably something going on behind the scenes there.
There's unsubstantiated gossip that he came to blows with someone.
The form De Gea’s been on, we should play Pogba in goal. That was a cracking reaction save from him
All kinds of fun going on in the championship. Would love to see Brentford make it up, but right now, not looking likely.
PSA for binners and others: Liverpool v Chelsea is free to air this evening and I know lots of you will be wanting to see Henderson lifting the trophy. So the opportunity is there to watch. 😀
Bloody hell Liverpool!
There’s unsubstantiated gossip that he came to blows with someone.
He's a great British fighter.
I know lots of you will be wanting to see Henderson lifting the trophy
I didn’t watch it, obviously (I have a low tolerance to Hopelessly indulgent, backward-gazing self-mythologising), but am I right in thinking that Jordan Henderson went full John Terry? Full Team Kit ****er! Oh dear. How embarrassing. Self-awareness has never been your strong point though, to be fair 😂
Seriously though, I’m made up for you. See you for your next one in 2050
#20times
See you for your next one in 2050
You think?
You think?
You only have to go back through the early pages of the thread to test binners’ powers of prediction. [Hint: not great to be honest...] 😀
@binners - I don't think he went full John Odious-Shit Terry. He is their captain and played most of the games. Terry's "magic moments" we're when he was banned or missed the final as he was pleasuring himself in a local park (or something like that).
You're just bitter 'cos Ferguson said he was rubbish and not Premier League quality or some other nonsense. You've also got to reconcile why Utd paid £100M for their new keeper
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