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Ed Woodward "Anyone one got Mauricio Pochettinos phone number?"
It’s Woodward that should be going, if they want to win the league again. But the owners seem content to use the club to make cash, which he’s good at, so he’ll stay.
It is indeed Woodward, and the owners, that are the root of the problem.
Last night was aboslutely dismal. We'll probably now face the indignity of City resting players for the second leg and still getting tonked by their reserves.
I don't even think they even care. As long as the money keeps rolling in.
It is indeed Woodward, and the owners, that are the root of the problem.
Last night was aboslutely dismal. We’ll probably now face the indignity of City resting players for the second leg and still getting tonked by their reserves.
I don’t even think they even care. As long as the money keeps rolling in.
Not sure i agree, Utd have spent plenty, just bought bad players with it.
Not sure i agree, Utd have spent plenty, just bought bad players with it.
Scary the amount of money they have spent since they last won the league and then have the cheek to moan about their injuries.
As a Liverpool fan I couldn't care less - their fans are now resorting to talking about 'history' just like Liverpool fans had been doing over the years (and get ridiculed for it!). Power has massively shifted over the last few years.
However the club, from a football point of view, is being run awfully; and I love it 🙂
They've spent a lot of money (worth noting that they're making more than ever though), but the signings have been absolutely inexplicable. Completely scattergun with no coherence as to what it is they're actually trying to achieve. £50+ million for Fred? Signing Sanchez on half a million quid a week? WTF?
The club is just being apallingly managed (from a footballing point of view), and the priority doesn't seem to be whats going on on the pitch - which now seems almost incidental - and is more to do with securing a new coffee 'partner' in the US or a noodle 'partner' in Singapore.
You can't keep those deals coming in if you're finishing mid-table though, and putting in pitifull displays like last night.
Its getting to the point where you'd have to wonder if any world class players would even go to United any more, given where the club is
Not sure i agree, Utd have spent plenty, just bought bad players with it.
There's been no overarching plan though, it's been a scatter gun approach. With very little future planning.
Even the prospects are suddenly in the prime of their careers but just OK footballers (Lingard I'm looking at you...)
Appointing OGS was a crazy decision - the worst manager of the four North West Premier League teams by some margin.
Seeing Phil Jones lumbering about was a treat!
And how exactly is that the owners fault unless we believe they're signing the players and ignoring multiple managers choices ?
Seeing Phil Jones lumbering about was a treat!
Just signed a new four-year deal. Apparently he's in his prime too.
Another inexlpicable decision. He's an absolute donkey. One of quite a selection of them presently coasting comfortably at the club.
And how exactly is that the owners fault unless we believe they’re signing the players and ignoring multiple managers choices ?
Woodward seems to have more influence on who gets signed than any of the mangers we've had. Jose made that pretty clear
And how exactly is that the owners fault unless we believe they’re signing the players and ignoring multiple managers choices ?
I think that's the understanding from the outside isn't it? Someone at the club is taking decisions on purchasing players without a strategy for how the club want to play football, formations etc. Alexis Sanchez as one example - never a Utd player under the manager at the time - I could go on.
Appointing OGS was a crazy decision – the worst manager of the four North West Premier League teams by some margin.
Completely agree - just hope they don't fire him anytime soon.
Well today has summed up perfectly where United are as a club
They offered 34 year old Ashley Young a one year contract extension
He told them ‘no thanks’ and he’s off to Inter.
Embarrassing.
You can’t keep those deals coming in if you’re finishing mid-table though, and putting in pitifull displays like last night.
Yup - and with their wage bill, things could quickly go all Leeds United.
Indeed. The club is still saddled with enormous debt from the Glazers leveraged buyout and is still being used as a cash cow to prop up their struggling US businesses. Which is why generating revenue, by any means, is taking priority over anything going on on the pitch.
It was always going to end up like this
They’re too big a club to do a Leeds, but the way they’re going they’ll emulate Liverpool’s title drought.
Ashley Young to Inter???!! My, how Italian football has fallen.
My (increasingly anxious) scouse mate thinks that these are the perfect conditions for Liverpool to lose tomorrow.
Its actually getting quite amusing watching how jittery my scouse mates are getting. They still think that it can all go tits up and they can throw it away. The more points clear they get, the more nervous they get
Its hilarious. Its the hope that kills you 😀
Git 😉
I am also, wisely nervous.
the only thing that can defeat Liverpool from here is Liverpool
Like Milan in Istanbul, or both of last year's CL semi finals, there's no way they could blow it......or could they! When they lose (and they will) if that turns into a second loss or a draw, and the lead drops to single digits and THOSE thoughts start creeping in, that's when it could get interesting.
No Liverpool supporter, player or employee will admit the title is a foregone conclusion. Very confident but nothing is won till it’s mathematically impossible to lose.
I’d say we are favourites at this point. Tomorrow is only tricky cos it’s Mourinho - it’s what makes me a tad nervous anyway.
Jose has just been spotted Reversing a Routemaster in North London 😂
Ashley Young to Inter???!! My, how Italian football has fallen.
Dived, remember who we are talking about here.
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Maguire isn’t fit enough for 90 minutes, so I’m just waiting for him to be subbed, then the inevitable Jones howler that will lead to Norwich’s first goal, then the next two Jones howlers that will allow Pukki his hat trick
Pukki's injured.and not playing.....but frankly could be in a wheelchair and still stand a chance against Jones.
If Phil Jones was in a wheelchair he’d be considerably more mobile
That all got a bit nuts in the last 15 mins of Liverpool v Spurs!!!
It was certainly nervy. They were probably lucky to come away with 3 points, but overall, they controlled most of the game. It’s no surprise that Joan set them up to plug gaps and hope for breaks. Hence, they lacked structure when they gained superiority for that spell in the second half. I’m sure I saw Bobby flashing his teeth at Gazzanigga just before shooting which dazzled him a bit. I liked Spurs a lot more under Poch. Beating any team with that moany eejit in charge is always going to be fun. The only thing that could have topped it off would have been a late equaliser being chalked off by VAR, just to make binners explode in a red sticky mess.
I thought Liverpool were chancing it a bit with the tactical fouling in the first half. There were a fair few yellows early in the game.
Unbelievable run of results.
6 clean sheets in a row in the league now too. It’ll be done by March!
Happy to see Jose is continuing project Manchester at spurs. What was Levy thinking?!
Also delighted ole has another big win under his belt to flatter to deceive.
It would be so very Man U of them to break the run next Sunday.
"But with a few signings, with the improvement these players are making, in the next couple of years we want to do that."
Are other mid table teams managers this cocky/delusional or is it just Man Utd's?
Was chatting to my Dad about Utd a few days ago (lifelong fan- was at the first post-Munich home game when the turnstiles ‘broke’ and thousands of extra fans got in).
General consensus is that after a couple of decades of epic success, great football etc most Utd fans don’t have any sense of entitlement for this to continue....they just wish the club wasn’t such a laughing stock thanks to the Glazers and Ed’s collective incompetence.
Binners- re the Ashley Young situation I think it’s actually worse than you say. His contract was up in summer and the club made no contact. He then starts to negotiate for a move, probably says something to Ole, Ed/Matt Judge panic and offer him a new deal but he’s so cheesed off he tells them to shove it.
I gather pretty much the same thing happened with Herrera and Evra.
I also didn’t think Ole should have been appointed when he was but there’s little point sacking him now. His recruitment has been pretty good (lots of deadwood out, good players in) and not even Fergie could do much with a Matic, Fred, Pierrera midfield!
they just wish the club wasn’t such a laughing stock thanks to the Glazers and Ed’s collective incompetence.
Thats the nail on head there, for me. Its just so depressing because everyone knew that, when the Glazers bought the club, this is exactly where we'd end up.They never had any ambition for the club other than making shedloads of cash. The recruitment has been an absolute joke. Theres no point just spaffing money on individual players without any cohesive vision of how they're going to play together. Some signings, like Sanchez, were just mystifying, and raises the question as to who on earth is taking these decisions?
If you look at the Liverpool recruitment under Klopp, he knew exactly where the squad was lacking, for the style of football he wanted to play, and plugged the gaps over a few seasons. Virgil and Allinson were the final pieces in the jigsaw of that team.
United don't have two pieces that fit together. Players seemed to have been signed virtually at random.
I agree that at least Ole seems to have some direction as far as who he's brought in, and at least there now seems to be some sort of direction to it.
I'll be watching the game on Sunday with 3 scousers. Do you reckon, given that rashford is now out, that this constitutes masochism on my part? interestingly, for all the piss-taking, none of them think that a win is a given and that it would be 'just so Man United' to end their run. The best performance we've put in this season was against Liverpool. I'm not optimistic, myself, but it is funny watching how jumpy theyre all getting
for all the piss-taking, none of them think that a win is a given
I do... it's just a question of whether we score 5 or 6.
Personally I'd be a lot happier if you all thought that. Especially the team
I would far rather Rashford was on Liverpool’s bench than playing against !
Great player , glad he’s not fit for this one . A rout would be too good to be true &put more pressure on ole... so I’ll hope for a spirited 3:1.... 🙂
Well Binners, VAR’s kept your lads in it!
Another mid-table side taken care of.
We lost against the best side in the league, but to be honest I just wish we could play like that every week. 2-0 definitely flattered you.
I think that’s the title done and dusted.
Christ, they’re going to be absolutely unbearable
2-0 definitely flattered you.
LOLz.
Good game of though either way.
Where/who/when are 'they' going to be unbearable? Did you not celebrate your titles?
Watched it in the pub with couple of Real mancs. It was ace. 😉
Good game imo and nervy at the end.
Went through the bizarre experience of having the city fans in the pub all supporting united
Surreal
Not only an extremely pleasing result but when glancing at the Premier table, it’s not difficult to notice that Man U have played 23 with a tally of 34 points. Liverpool have a game in hand, having played 22 games and amassed a points total of 64.
IF they win their game in hand, they will have near as dammit double the points of ManYooooo....
Happy days.
I'm pleased in a way that United didn't get the mauling they deserved. They've stepped up and performed well in the second of their only two big games of the season and that'll be enough to keep Ole in place for a while. A hammering today may well have seen the board give him their full confidence while trying to recruit Poch.
This weekend has confirmed my thoughts that this is the worst Premier League season in terms of quality.
The traditional 'Big sides' are absolute turd, much worse than when Leicester won the league.
The traditional ‘Big sides’ are absolute turd, much worse than when Leicester won the league.
Not all of them 🙂
This weekend has confirmed my thoughts that this is the worst Premier League season in terms of quality.
EPL Table 2015/16 after Matchday 23 (said with an American accent there...)
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How low down the league would you have to go to find a team that West Ham could definitely beat?
As a toon fan ..I've a real soft spot for Liverpool..never in a million years will we have the same kind of success as that club ..but we have shared some decent players over the years ..Keegan / Beardsley / Kennedy / Terry Mac / Barnes ...
and even took part in one of the greatest games the PL has ever seen ..4-3 ( twice )..
I'm pleased they are going to win the league at a canter ..
Game of the week though our boys getting a point at that other Merseyside club ..2-0 in the 94th minute and 2-2 in the 95th ..fantastico!!
You want to be careful hogynd, steve bruce may be wanted by the Red Devils soon.
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The man is doing ok SenorJ..
I was as upset as anyone else when Benitez left ..but was prepared to give Brucie a chance ..and slowly but surely he is winning the fans over ..they were even chanting his name in the FA cup replay against Rochdale ..
He’s doing well with a limited squad. Definitely transferable skills to Old Trafford.
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Good news then!
Why on earth haven’t they signed Bruno Fernandes yet? They paid £50m off for Fred! Clearly needed and looks decent.
Boom! Get in Bobby!
Nice one Tranmere. That'll be a nice away day for whoever's playing them at the weekend in the cup...
It's really becoming something when you look at the football scores & see Wolves have got an equaliser & get excited because they might be only the second team to take points off them this season.
Surely this current team is the best Liverpool team ever?
Well based upon 91 out of 93 possible points, i'm not even thinking they only the best Liverpool team ever !
However, we'll really need to see next year for that. I think at times Liverpool have been in the Goldilocks zone of football, it's just worked, game in game out, time and time again. I don't think it will quite work out so perfectly each and every game every week forever.
But, i'm still optimistic.
Wolves were very good last night ,deserved at least a point.
Good practice for the next round of champions league imo.
Wolves did indeed deserve a point, as have a few others this year, in many other seasons Liverpool would have 10-15 points less, as a particular shot didn't quite work out that time. But this year, it's different, it's just all working out nicely.
But Liverpool will not be a great team until they retain the Premier league.
It is not great for the league to have one team running away with it.
Teams should kick Liverpool to stop them.
Waiting for the media to start saying the above about Liverpool - it's exactly what they said about City two years ago. The last gem came from Danny Murphy - wonder if he will be repeating this about his former club?
I can however acknowledge that Liverpool have been amazing this season and will probably break many of the records that City set. I am sure that their fans will be modest and gracious in victory 😉
I'm trying to be....But... Why should they ? Were Citys fans that ? Were Utds ? So why should Liverpools be ?
I can however acknowledge that Liverpool have been amazing this season
That’s really big of you.
Typical Liverpool fan - offended by everything - even a compliment to their team 😉
That's GOT to be it then ? 19 points clear ? 97 points out of the last 99 available ? Sheesh.
Doubly post
I’m trying to be….But… Why should they ? Were Citys fans that ? Were Utds ? So why should Liverpools be ?
Have a look back at the run-in on this thread last year. There was no gloating from the City fans on here (that I could see) - most of the long-termers can still remember playing in Division 2 so our present circumstances are very much a bonus to be savoured. Loads of posts congratulating Liverpool on their CL performances, urging them on.
Obviously, Man Utd are fair game for a bit of a gloat, though. 🙂 Apart from when they keep beating us at the Etihad.
That’s GOT to be it then ? 19 points clear ? 97 points out of the last 99 available ? Sheesh.
Once they wrap it up, will they relax & blow their records?
I'm more annoyed that I am still to get to use the newspaper headline I thought of on the day Klopp was announced manager
There was no gloating from the City fans on here (that I could see)
(One of) The mostest posting City fan here is forever having sly little digs at Liverpool...though very quiet this season for some reason or another. I know City fans are desperate for a rivalry, bless ‘em. Anyway, it’s football - it’s all about the pantomime, the hubris in smithereens, seeing everything binners says be proved wrong by events a few days later, etc etc.
How are Leeds fans feeling? Any baggies? I was listening on the radio the other night as they and WBA conspired to throw away their lead at the top, with Leeds crazily turning it around in the second half. While enjoying Liverpool’s dominance, the Championship is far more interesting for table-watching. Such a mad division. 😀
seeing everything binners says be proved wrong by events a few days later, etc etc.
OI! I pride myself on my reverse-Mystic Meg abilities. If you had any nouse you'd open a betting account and put money on the opposite of what I predict.
Thats what my darling wife does, Bravissimo. I predicted we'd get tonked last night. She stuck a fiver on us winning. She cashed out half way through the second half, quids in. She also stuck a tenner on us losing at home to Burnley last week, at 8/1 when I was holding out the vain hope we might actually get something out of that.
Man Yoo are proving very lucrative for her with our dismally inconsistent performances
What do you lot think about lfc playing the kids in the Fa cup replay?
I totally get the managers point, but he could have played some of the blokes who aren’t regular first team again.
Not that it did him any good in the first tie. Ha.
The past couple of years, Klop has clearly prioritized the champions league and premier league over the league and fa cups. And it has worked, CL last year, PL this and still will be one of the favorites for the CL, could still probably go through to the next round of the FA as well although I think as it progresses he still won't play anywhere near his strongest team and won't make the final.
The one thing that has surprised me is that he won't manage or even go to the game, that is a bit off IMO, would be a great buzz for the kids that play to be managed by him for the night, really give them something to play for hoping to catch his eye. I wonder if it is something he said in the moment that he now regrets, just seems so contrary to his usual man management style.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate what little old Sheffield United are doing this season?
Favourites for relegation at the start of the season, told our style of football wouldn't work, players that were playing in League 1, 3 seasons ago, written off by virtually everyone.
Almost safe by February, above Man U, Spurs and Arsenal in 5th, currently on for European football and all the pundits now noticing us.
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