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As bad as united were, I think you have to credit Brentford for turning them over. Even last year they were a team who really gave the big boys a tough time, they were fantastic today, at least half the story of that match should be how good they were, just talking about united failings seams disrespectful to their performance. Any team would have been proud of that fourth goal, if that had been Harland, Nunez or Ronaldo slotting it away it would have been talked about as world class.
Brentford were absolutely brilliant! Played us off the park from start to finish.
They are a quality squad who played some superb football. Unlike us. They came with a well worked out game plan and executed it to perfection
They Displayed all the qualities we’re so obviously missing, in spades. I don’t think the final score reflected the game. It could/should have been 6
Every player who sported that bloody awful United third kit was an absolute disgrace. How they’ve got the front to keep picking up their obscene wages while delivering that shite is beyond belief
They eat lunch together now though AND turn up for training at the same time. Clearly ETH has a little more work to do……..
When do we begin to revise Ole’s record? Maybe he held them together! They’re worse since he left.
Sympathies and all that but Reading got a whipping from mighty Rotherham. At least Planet X will be happy.
binners
Brentford were absolutely brilliant! Played us off the park from start to finish.
They are a quality squad who played some superb football. Unlike us. They came with a well worked out game plan and executed it to perfection
They Displayed all the qualities we’re so obviously missing, in spades. I don’t think the final score reflected the game. It could/should have been 6
I'm in Brentford tomorrow visiting an old work mate, he's already sent me several very drunk WhatsApp messages, I'm guessing he's going to be a bit crispy tomorrow 😀
He did say he bloody loves ManU, not sure he meant it in affection! I'll report tomorrow how Bob feels.
Just watched it on MOTD. Oh dear.
Let's end the season now, while the mighty Tractor Boys are League One champions 🤣
So jealous of Liverpool getting to play United next. Start strongly and score a goal early doors and double figures is a real possibility.
@morecashthandash I was born not too far from Ipswich and have a WhatsApp group containing mates from home and one lone (Manchester born) Man U supporter. Yesterday we were all letting him know how we're looking forward to playing them in the Championship next season. Apparently were not the only ones giving it to him this weekend.
Also, as a Town fan I would love form someone to really turn Man U over and take the largest prem win record from them!
So jealous of Liverpool getting to play United next. Start strongly and score a goal early doors and double figures is a real possibility.
Could be one of those weird seasons where united somehow comes away with a 1-0 win out of 15% possession after Liverpool squander about 400 chances. 🙂
Just watched MOTD, Arsenal look good but I suppose the real story is the redemption of Granit Xhaka who was about to be dishonourably discharged couple of seasons ago.
Well that was a spikey finish to the Chelsea/Spurs game! Red cards for both managers 😳😂
I have an irrational hatred for spurs these days, they have so many annoying players and supporters, they deserved nothing out of that game today, only things I learnt are Chelsea need a front man, and VAR is a bit pointless these days
Yes given that Romero was clearly pulling the guys hair I can’t see why that isn’t a straight Red
Can I just point out that Forest are presently out of the relegation spots. Happy for the season to finish now.
23years, it's been too long. I have tickets to watch City v Forest, last time i saw that fixture was at Maine Road, and Ian Wright was playing for us and Shaun Wright-Phillips came on as a sub for City. With that first win I won't mind as much as my son lords it over me... shame its not Man utd next.
Yeah, and the ref looking right at it as well, this isn't a whinge at the VAR technology, but the fact that it's just being used even more badly now, you have someone in a building somewhere in the UK playing referee on those decisions to see if they think the ref should look at it again, you've got assistant refs who now do nothing, just run up and down the line and are too scared to raise the flag in case they stop something VAR will catch, it just gets worse each year.
The rules and phases and so on are also getting more confusing, i actually prefer the old offside rule, i didn't at first when this new one came in, but it's just a farce now, how do you defend attackers when one can be way offside, and due to phases, you have to make sure you cover them, yet they're not interfering with play, or causing an obstruction, or whatever.
That was some finish for a centre back from Koulibaly
I still can’t believe Spurs managed to get a draw out of that today. Very un-Spursy
Hurrah for entitled Forest. Not only did HTFC get mugged by VAR in the playoff but then you get two of our best players who put in a performance for you today. Not bitter honest, just hoping you get your arses handed to you and come straight back down.
Also, as a Town fan I would love form someone to really turn Man U over and take the largest prem win record from them!
Eh, good point.
I live halfway between Nottingham and Derby, so the "banter" is quite lively locally and at work. Especially at the end of last season.
Forest fans go nuts when whoever is bottom of the Premier League get enough points for Derby to keep the record for lowest ever points total. As a neutral in this debate, I would love it - love it - if Forest **** up and take that record from Derby. (Which isn't going to happen.)
I would love for someone to really turn Man U over and take the largest prem win record from them!
Unfortunately, I think there’s a very real probability of that happening next match
If it does then I’m going into hiding
you get two of our best players who put in a performance for you today.
They really did! Toffolo shaped up after a shaky start at Newcastle, O'Brien has a huge amount of potential, they've really kicked on.
Forest fans go nuts when whoever is bottom of the Premier League get enough points for Derby to keep the record for lowest ever points total. As a neutral in this debate, I would love it – love it – if Forest **** up and take that record from Derby. (Which isn’t going to happen.)
Wonder if anyone is brave enough to put a bet on ManU taking that spot this season?
Nah... we'll get Big Sam in in January to keep us up.
I wish I was joking, but the club is in such a mess that it wouldn't actually surprise me in the least. Nothing does any more.
The latest rumours are that this summer Joel Glazer (a man who refers to football as 'soccer') has been personaly identifying transfer targets and overruling everyone else, including the manager and scouting staff
Sounds about right. Our transfer 'policy' has looked like someones been picking names out of a hat for a long time now
Honestly, i keep thinking they've hit bottom, but they do keep proving us all wrong, i have a feeling that ManU will be out there trying to buy someone to appease the fans this week, or two, or three!
It's mad to think that if they'd tried harder last January they could have had Conte as manager, but it was all about why he wouldn't work, rather than just getting him in, imagine 6 months of Conte measuring the squad then wielding the axe in summer!
i have a feeling that ManU will be out there trying to buy someone to appease the fans this week, or two, or three!
Its the same every year though. They identify a number of (alleged) high profile transfer targets (Haaland, De Jong etc this year) while they're busy selling season tickets, and then those players never materialise due to the farcical way the club does its business and instead you have the same desperate scramble to get ANYONE in at the eleventh hour. No strategy, no plan, no structure... just literally pulling names out of the air
Other clubs and greedy agents smell the desperation and double everyones price and you end up paying 80 million for a Sunday league quality donkey like Harry Maguire, 90 million for a player like Pogba who you let go on a Free a couple of seasons ago or paying Alexis Sanchez the thick end of half a million quid a week to punt shots into Row Z, when he's not injured. The latest madness is Aronovich. I think they were actually serious about him being 'the answer' this season
We're all just absolutely sick to death of the same ridiculous annual charade. Its embarrassing and its actually getting worse every year
And the next name out of the hat is....
https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1559127368853241856?s=20&t=lUvS7_Dq6hperRYs3qrFmg
Jesus wept!!
Well, his missus does have some minor legal bills she needs to cover. Old Trafford payday would come in handy.
Would be great for Utd though - it would leave just the rest of the attack, the midfield, defence and goalkeeper to sort out.
Souness being hounded for using a phrase that was used in its proper context, he (and others) have gone on for years about refs blowing all the time and taking the limelight in games ruining games in many instances, suddenly there's quotes galore about how bad this comment referring back to the days when he played and the context has been removed completely.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62548431
Well I'm not going to defend var, definitely not the referring and nor will I defend hair pulling or unsporting antics on the sidelines. What I am pleased about though.... Last year if spurs brought significantly less than their A game (as is the norm with Chelsea as they get under our skin) and Chelsea play well, the result would have been at least a 4 goal drubbing. Yesterday we did the ' good teams get a result even when their bad' thing. Luck? Maybe.
Argee,😆 you can't think man u only won games they deserved to.
As for souness, he probably didn't mean to be sexist, but he made a sexist comment. It's no longer appropriate too say what he said. If he apologized for the phrase used and rephrased the message it would be fine.
Souness was more scary than Yosser Hughes, one of the most intimating and talented footballers for a long time. I read the twitter argument and i think it's a little out of context and hugely overblown but given the women's euro success we now know other people play football, but i do not think it was meant to be misogynistic, he just meant that he wanted the physicality back in the game, but of course he used a non-woke expression, so is being slated.
Ooops. Nunez silly boy. Hook, line and sinker from Andersen.
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Worrafuchendeck-ed
I was just thinking that Nunez was reminding me of Andy Carroll when he was at Liverpool, then he went and did that 😂
Anyway, Congratulations to Man City on the 22/23 Premiership Title, we might not need to restart the season after the world cup the way its going!
He was pretty poor all match. Spurned a couple of very good chances - Jota will probably come in for him when fit?
Title is City’s to lose, as it should be, but it’s daft to say it’s over given the points Liverpool clawed back toward the end of last season. Intrigued by the rumours of Bernardo Silva maybe heading to Barcelona, if they find some more cash down the back of their sofa. He’d be a huge loss.
Just watched that with two scousers. It’s quite unbelievable that as utterly shite as we are (and we are a comedy Sunday league side), Liverpool are only 2 points better off
The title is between Citeh and Chelsea I reckon, and Citeh will finish 9-12 points clear
Still dreading next Monday, mind. The atmosphere will be utterly toxic and we’ll no doubt get absolutely battered. There’s no way we’ll put in a performance like Palace put in tonight. We’re a pub side
Brentford sat in third? Fair play to ‘em
Lads, there are 38 games in a premiersi season, not 2! Marathon not a sprint and all that. World cup in the middle...... January and February will be very odd and that oddness will decay but continue to the end of the season
It’s about form though. Citeh look good, Chelsea look good, Arsenal look good (Jesus looks like signing of the season already), Liverpool look decidedly mediocre, Spurs look Spursey
We look absolutely ****ing awful
Can’t see anyone getting close to Citeh this season.
I’m with neilneville - two games in. It’s not form. Give it ten games or so and things will be a bit clearer. Although we’re all aware United will finish nearer the bottom than the top.
Ten games in i can see City having at least a 6 point cushion, they are the form team and they have the best squad, and i think they'll still sign another player before the window shuts.
Liverpool are a great team, but they suffer from a drop in quality from their starting 11 to those on the bench, tonight we saw what losing Thiago is for them, they also have weakness in that defence, TAA is just not good at defending, he seems to get away with it all the time because of his crossing and attacking, but he's a right back first and foremost, most other teams if they have that type of scenario tend to work with a back 3, but that's not really a Liverpool thing.
Last season we had a 10 point cushion at Christmas, current situation doesn't mean a thing, obviously.
Sadio Mane missing, that will Liverpool's problem. He harried and closed from the front and was intelligent enough to stay within the refs tolerance.
He harried and closed from the front and was intelligent enough to stay within the refs tolerance.
Not since Paul Scholes in his prime has a player got away with as much as Sadio Mane. Like Scholes I think he cons refs into thinking its clumsiness instead of malice, but he can be a right nasty little ****er and some of the 'challenges' are really cynical.
Its a handy skill to have
Liked a tumble too, did Sadio. Watching last night he’d have probably taken some of those chances Nunez missed but his finishing too could be pretty erratic.
I didn't particularly notice Sadio's tumblings, certainly not on the same scale as Kane the fragile.
Taking things one game at a time, next it's wolves coming to New whl. Last season I went to this game and watched spurs play the worst I've seen them play.... Ever. They were bad. Nuno football. It would be nice to put that memory to bed.
How do you go from a 0-4 loss at Rotherham to beating top of the table 3-0 in 4 days?
It's gonna be a weird season at the SCL Madhouse if the first 4 games are any indication.
Yes one if my season ticket mates rang me last night in frustration - I told him to buy a yo-yo.
De Jong……nope……Rabiot……nope…..ok let’s spunk £70m on 30 year old Casemiro and give him a four year £350k a week contract 😳
Decent player, very Fernandinho like in terms of his ‘tactical’ fouling and an upgrade on McFred I guess…..
Our transfer dealings have been as slick as ever. Nobody had even mentioned his name until a few days ago when the panic set in that it was going to another very long season with everyone swearing at McFreds laurel and hardy-esque antics in midfield because (perfectly understandably) nobody wants to come to United
So the usual headless chicken/clutching at straws, last minute panic ensued resulting in the usual insane transfer fee and bonkers contract
Given that he’s played Erickson as a lone striker then a holding midfielder so far, he’ll probably stick Casemiro next to Maguire or maybe he’s bought him to replace De Gea?
Casemiro - in the last few seasons in Europe he's been fun to watch. He makes Neymar's playacting seems pedestrian.
Just like Empires in the real world, English football empires tend not to re-emerge in the same place after they've crumbled.
Time for Man Utd to just accept that and not expect too much.
Not expect too much? I can promise you that for the last god knows how many years, our expectation has been absolutely zero, due to the total shambles the club has become.
This season it’s just to not be in a relegation fight like Everton were last season. We’re really that bad.
Anyway… the latest in the Crazy world of the comedy club…
https://twitter.com/iamokon/status/1560730983711870976?s=21&t=1-hmxENfkWW62fV2zI5ChA
Chelsea are trolling.
I know. Makes a change from Citeh trolling is on transfers
Not seen it but from the stats it looks like wolves put up a good fight. They did well let season and should again this I think. As always, Harry Kane was the difference and brought the points home (based purely on the stats.... So a meaningless comment really!)
3 games, 7 more points earned than from the same fixtures last year, Conte continues to inspire us
The Brentford - Fulham game is a good one, glad I chose to watch this one this afternoon, and now that Toney has got his goal happy to have swapped him into my FF team to replace Nunez.
City will win, they always do but Newcastle are tearing them a new arse with every attack right now. It's like Kevin Keegan ball again but with added defending.
Brilliant to watch. If you aren't and have Sky, get it on now.
Newcastle have had some good managers since Keegan left (and some truly awful ones) but I've never felt so optimistic as with Howe in charge. Yes, when we've bought, we've bought well but recent performances are down to players he's inherited and improved. He's a great coach.
I'm watching the Newcastle v City match, it looks like City don't like it up 'em.
Newcastle won the first half.
This is brilliant to watch. Kyle Walker is being absolutely hounded, Stones looks lost - Howe really has the chance to build something great here.
****, City are good too.
This toon game is nuts. Haaland is really up to speed now.
Never really followed football much but F1 not back til next week and my nephew is at St James for his first ever match so thought I’d give it a watch. Some game he’s picked!
As a Newcastle fan, I'd just like to say; ****ing hell.
Indeed. MOTM? Nick Pope for me!
ASM had a canny game as well, but yeah Pope probably shaded it
Brilliant 3-0 victory for Leeds over Chelsea. Was thinking a draw would have been a good result after last seasons capitulations against the 'top 6', but what a stunning performance - Tuchel looked lost for words. I think the pundits' pre-season bets that we would be 4th favourites to be relegated have gone out of the window. All the 4 new signings seemed to have got into Marsch's system and made Chelsea look ordinary for much of the game, despite the vast disparity in the overall costs of the squad.
I wonder whether Kalvin Phillips is regretting his move to Citeh, with a full 90 minutes warming the bench, and Qatar getting ever closer.
MOT / ALAW
it looks like City don’t like it up ’em.
I've often thought that City look vulnerable when people really go at them. Missed opportunities and the fact that City will still put 3-4 past you anyway means it hasn't been a big issue for them
Think Tuchel will be odds on for first managerial casualty 22/23, Chelsea just have no idea what to do in the final third, Havertz isn't really a forward, and Sterling just seems lost in this team up front, they put a lot of the blame on Lukaku last season, but it's pretty obvious they're completely disjointed, not good for a manager in his third season at the club and having spent quite a bit of money on new signings.
Good points argee - wonder if the new owner will be as twitchy as Abramovich when it comes to firing managers? I expect they’ll sign a striker by the close of the deadline. Interesting comments by Sterling in the media, seems a bit bitter re his time at City?
Yeah, Sterling is a great player, but has struggled with getting games and in the proper position that benefits him, weirdly you see Jesus has so far flourished with his move, Sterling looks like he's not really fitted in yet.
Hope he does integrate though, he's one of the best when he's on his game, but again, doubt we'll see this at Chelsea until they know what they're doing in attack!
Some unexpected but deserved results today! Well done Leeds and Newcastle
Think Tuchel will be odds on for first managerial casualty 22/23
Brendan Rogers is getting the axe, according to some social media rumours
That’s mad if true - they’ve not signed anyone! Perhaps he’s against the likely sale of Fofana and maybe Maddison?
Hard to believe that Newcastle are the same team that played at Brighton the week before! Brighton should have won that one 🤷♂️
Think after last season you could see Leicester were needing some rebuilding, nothing has happened, all we hear is that Fofana is leaving, Maddison is having bids, Tielemans is going to arsenal, etc, etc. Think Brendan Rodgers might want to move on the way things are going rather than go through a season of drudgery again.
It is shaping up to be pretty competitive - a lot of the so called smaller teams are pretty good sides and not afraid to have a go.
Eddie Howe has really impressed me. Quite rightly after the game yesterday he said if we’d sat in we would get beaten so they had a go. Hope others follow the template - although get it wrong and City could score 6 or 7!
Read stuff about Tuchel needing time to build his own team. He's only had 18 months and spent over £150m in this transfer window alone...
Well deserved win for Leeds yesterday and seeing Tuchel mumbling about coaches, planes, saying they were the better team etc after the match was beautiful. Confirmation that the guy is a whopper...
Anyone on here not been linked as a player for Man U?
You can guarantee that whoever United are linked with at the start of the transfer window will most certainly never come to Old Trafford.
Wait until the end of the transfer window, when the headless chicken panic mode has been engaged (as it is EVERY SINGLE YEAR) and just look out for which agents are trying to offload mediocre squad players for hugely inflated fees and salaries
For reasons that presently seem beyond reason, other than a morbid masochism, I'll be watching tonights match with a few scousers. I predict that Harry Maguire will be personally at fault for at least 6 of their goals.
If TH continues with this ridiculous idea of De Gea and Maguire playing it out from the back, Liverpool could well get into double figures
Brendan Rogers is getting the axe, according to some social media rumours
As a Villa fan, I'd swap Rogers for Gerrard in a heartbeat.