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Iranian players mumbling the anthem under duress, by the look of it. Horrible situation.
Wales may struggle in this stadium due to the heat
Wales saved by VAR. Should be a wake up call hopefully.
Wales may struggle in this stadium due to the heat
It's airconditioned pitchside isn't it? Sun will still be fierce but I did hear of fans in the lower rows needing jumpers (not for goalposts, for warmth)
2 poor teams.
The USA must be enjoying this.
If this ends in a draw and we win tonight we are group winners, aren't we?
If this ends in a draw and we win tonight we are group winners, aren’t we?
Yes. And probably Ecuador in the knock outs.
Not if you're American
Yes. And probably Ecuador in the knock outs.
Yeah I thought that.
Not if you’re American
Hah!
Aaron Ramsey - why does he keep getting picked? Sentiment over ability now. You can see why he couldn’t get a game for Rangers. Bale going the same way…..both young relatively though.
Aaron Ramsey – why does he keep getting picked?
It looks like it only works if StColin says it, but well tried.
Wales look knackered.
I reckon after seeing England put 6 past Iran Wales thought all they had to do was turn up.
perhaps some of the ABEs might give some credit for England making Iran look poor?
Aaron Ramsey is rubbish.
I hope this helps.
Interesting scenario in this group. If this stays the same and England beat the US then we'll have Wales needing to beat England to go through and the US or Iran needing to beat the other. The US v Iran game will be worth watching. 🙂
The USA must be enjoying this.
If this ends in a draw and we win tonight we are group winners, aren’t we?
A draw isn't too bad for Wales if England do win tonight is it? It'll mean Wales need to beat England who will already be through as top team so might rest players.
That said, Iran goal coming unless Wales step up
That corner was shockingly bad!
Then Wales hit a terrible long ball.
2 terrible teams.
It's going to be even worse in 2026 when there are 48 teams in the finals1
It’ll mean Wales need to beat England who will already be through as top team so might rest players.
Never going to happen based on this display, even against the England reserves.
Random thought as the Iranian was breaking there.
Every year (4 years) ball technology improves, there was a period 2-3 WC's ago where they couldn't get it to fly straight but we don't hear so much of that now.
But we're a full round of matches in now and I can't think of a proper long range worldy; a few placed from around the edges and corners of the box, but no 30 yard screamers - as the Iranian was breaking I was thinking he was getting into range but didn't have any thought of shooting. Anything to do with balls, or just culturally that intricate passing and close range finishes seem to be more in vogue?
also - no red card so far? Less likely to do something daft / better decision making because of the likelihood VAR will condemn you? It hasn't removed tackling at all, it's just better considered.
perhaps some of the ABEs might give some credit for England making Iran look poor?
Are you Norman Tebbit? Some of us simply don't support England, but like football. Personally I have more cousins in the US than England, so I'm fairly neutral.
ramsey is having a shocker at moment
Gotta be a red, that.
I don't care if you or anyone else is ABE, that's part of the territory of being an England fan. You can still reflect it was a very good performance against Iran that made them look poor.
Must be a red!
also – no red card so far?
You are St Colin and I claim my £5 😀
I watch more rugby than football usually but isn’t that a red for kicking the lad in the head, regardless of whether there’s cover behind him?
Also, how many subs do you get these days?
Could have awarded that for either, but dangerous play trumps denial of goal-scoring opportunity.
I'm half Welsh, I live here, and there's a great buzz going on but looking at the football I'm not feeling it. They look a bit shite, don't they?
Who was it that cursed the keeper by saying we've not had a red card yet?
Wales were already down to 10 men now they have 9. Has Bale actually touched the ball?
I watch more rugby than football usually but isn’t that a red for kicking the lad in the head, regardless of whether there’s cover behind him?
Absolutely - that was a red card all ends up for a high foot/body check.
It’s a shame you can’t hear what the ref was saying but I guess all the background whining and swearing wouldn’t work
Who was it that cursed the keeper by saying we’ve not had a red card yet?
Oops. Even worse I said decision making was getting better, that was the real problem, without the decision you don't need the challenge.
Feel sorry for Hennessy as he was the only Wales player who turned up and he gets sent off for his efforts. The rest of them should be taking a look at themselves, especially the so called superstars.
Iran almost to a man have beautiful hair. Very slick.
It’s occurred to me it really can’t be that hot at pitch level as nobody is pouring water on their heads and they haven’t had an extra drinks break?
Ooof - two for two.
Hennessy at 6'15" would have reached that
Iran v USA could get a bit tasty
Wales get what they deserve.
Strike! Get in.
Iran v USA could get a bit tasty
Iran vs 'The Great Satan', you mean?
that do theotherjonv?
painful!
I don't know why Bale wasn't on the pitch today though.
I'm not very good at predictions......
I'm now nervous for tonight and Tuesday, USA need something and will press us hard, I hope quality will tell (and we do have quality) but it's a tough night ahead.
And then Wales next week with everything to gain and nothing to lose. It's not inconceivable to end up with a group like Italia 90 with everyone on 4 points and GD sorting it (but we did put 6 past Iran)
[actually, I think it is but could have three on 4 points]
Two assists from the Welsh Pirlo though - pretty good given he was only on for 10 minutes.
I’m now nervous for tonight and Tuesday,
Nah. England will win both games easily. The US are athtletic and will push them hard but don't have the quality. Wales will get thrashed. We've only had one England game but against Iran they looked like they had the same ruthlessness in front of goal as in the Euros. England's only problem is the defence. It's not going to be good enough against quality attackers.
For those of a nervous disposition:
Harry! Maguire!
Or as us United supporters refer to him... Harry ****ing Maguire
The only positive to take is that he should be well rested, because he's played about 20 minutes of football all season. Unfortunately, there's a very good reason for that
I look forward to him pointing at the spot where he's meant to be because he's out of position, yet again
Wow, it's going to be a miserable weekend for Welsh sport with the Rugby Team playing Australia tomorrow.
Mixed feelings. He's never let England down. OTOH, looking at form and capability, it has to only be a matter of time.......
Just seen elsewhere...
BREAKING: Rain expected in Qatar today, FIFA cancelling all #WorldCup matches in case there's a rainbow.
Dutch making heavy weather of this but virtually through I guess given final match is Qatar.
As an aside… Edgar Davids looks like he should be in a Tarantino film
Wrighty talking sense again.
I think they should call FIFA's bluff. I think that's all it is, if they (England/Kane) or indeed anyone did it they'd either get sanctioned and I suspect FIFA would then face a massive ' No, I'm Spartacus' moment, or they wouldn't do anything and FIFA's pathetic backbone would be exposed.
Yes I'm biased, but as others have said, protesting is a risk. But millions of people are risking far more every day than the chance of winning a tin pot, just to live a life in the way they want to.
@dazh - why the negative Wales comments?
Did you try to get served on a Sunday after 2pm in the late 80s?
He managed to get in for lunch while they were still serving, but then asked what the vegetarian option was?
That Maguire fella is some dribbler.
The US coach is Gary Oldman as Mr Zorg.
Stepovers? Maguire? 😳
Maguire does seem to play better when he hasn't got 60k 'supporters' on his back
why the negative Wales comments?
because they were deserved? Honestly, they spend 50 years trying to get to the WC finals and then when they do they decide not to bother playing.
England being equally complacent against the US BTW. It’s just lazy.
If England play like this against Wales...
bit lazy at the moment - both Sterling for the chance earlier, and then Rice just there have been simply run past and not made any great effort to track their runner
I'm saying nothing!
I'd like to see Foden in the second half - not sure Mount is making a difference (just as he has a good shot on target)
Merkins got their tictacs sorted
Southgate needs to change something
Slab head playing well i thought
USA are a fit well, drilled team a bit like Brighton. They could snatch this.
Slab head most switched on England player.
Might be because he's concentrating on tracking runs and making blocks rather than pointing and shouting.
Mount, Saka, Sterling, and to a lesser extent Bellingham need more movement off the ball to create options when Stones and Maquire are in possession. They seem to be leaving responsibility to create that first pass out from the back to everyone else and positioning themselves for the pass after that.
Can’t see how Foden doesn’t start. Lacklustre from England.
USA were class v Wales in the first half then faded.
At 7.28pm I posed to my What’s App group…
First 15 minutes we looked in control but we’ve been drawn into their game
Do they know this is the World Cup and not a friendly?
I’m beginning to think Southgate has told them to play for the draw. Bet he’ll be happier with a 0-0 than the 6-2 against Iran.
It's like The Wire v Only Fools and Horses.
Drawn into their game?! Typical Ingerland arrogance that!
Kane looks quite tired.
It's not a surprise that Saka and Bellingham are struggling, it's way past their bedtime