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Football is a bunch of ar*e at the moment! Arnautovic needs to be docked 2 weeks wages for being such a knob. Silver lining at least Hernandez has shown he knows where the goal is again.
You should be up there at the end though Binners/Junkyard. I said at the time when Jose signed up - he delivers titles. Nightmare scenario for me and the ABU's is that he's matured a bit and won't have a third season meltdown 😆
Well that's 60% of our projected points total for the season achieved 😉
Still second in the table too 😀
Great win for the 'club in crisis' versus the self-appointed best team in the league
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C'mon the Chels
[b]ROOOOOOONEY!!!!![/b]
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Silly from Walker, both harsh decisions, but having got the first yellow stepping across like that even with minimal contact invited the referee to make a decision.
I don't think 3 5 2 is city's best formation, when Mendy is fit I would prefer them to go 4 5 1.
It was harsh, but that look over the shoulder was the invitation for him to make a meal of it. When you're already on a (deserved) yellow, thats just stupid
City don't look look that convincing going forward though. And that was with eleven men. Everton are defending well
Edit: they're looking better now they're down to ten men
In the spirit of early season sweeping generalisations have City signed another dud keeper?
Good second half, been some exciting football in the first 2 weeks, hope it continues.
CL draw 5pm today!
Pot 1:
Real Madrid (ESP, holders),
Bayern München (GER),
Juventus (ITA)
Benfica (POR),
Chelsea (ENG),
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR),
Monaco (FRA),
Spartak Moskva (RUS)
Pot 2:
Barcelona (ESP),
Atlético Madrid (ESP),
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA),
Borussia Dortmund (GER),
Sevilla (ESP),
Manchester City (ENG),
Porto (POR),
Manchester United (ENG)
Pot 3:
Napoli (ITA),
Tottenham Hotspur
(ENG),
Basel (SUI),
Olympiacos (GRE),
Anderlecht (BEL),
Liverpool (ENG),
Roma (ITA),
Be?ikta? (TUR)
Pot 4: Celtic (SCO),
CSKA Moskva (RUS),
Sporting CP (POR),
APOEL (CYP),
Feyenoord (NED),
Maribor (SVN),
Qaraba? (AZE),
RB Leipzig (GER)
[b]EEK![/b]
Some interesting possibilities there. You'd be a brave man to call a winner out of that lot!
I'll take Real Madrid, Dortmund & Liverpool! I like a challenge! 😆
Bayern, psg, Anderlecht! Bring it! 😆
Benfica, Basel and CSKA Moscow. Some bullets dodged there 😀
ours should be alright, I'm realistic enough to know it's just a 3rd place battle between us and anderlecht, doable.
We'll do one of the other 2 at celtic park, just for giggles! 😆
utd draw looks decent, should get through that no great worries.
Phew, not bad for Liverpool that.
Is it your year? 😉
Let's hope it not 2011. Man U never progressed that year with nearly the same group
GROUP A
Benfica (POR)
Man. United (ENG)
Basel (SUI)
CSKA Moskva (RUS)
GROUP B
Bayern (GER)
Paris (FRA)
Anderlecht (BEL)
Celtic (SCO)
GROUP C
Chelsea (ENG)
Atlético (ESP)
Roma (ITA)
Qaraba? (AZE)
GROUP D
Juventus (ITA)
Barcelona (ESP)
Olympiacos (GRE)
Sporting CP (POR)
GROUP E
Spartak Moskva (RUS)
Sevilla (ESP)
Liverpool (ENG)
Maribor (SVN)
GROUP F
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
Man. City (ENG)
Napoli (ITA)
Feyenoord (NED)
GROUP G
Monaco (FRA)
Porto (POR)
Be?ikta? (TUR)
Leipzig (GER)
GROUP H
Real Madrid (ESP)
Dortmund (GER)
Tottenham (ENG)
APOEL (CYP)
Draw has been kind to both Manchester teams and Liverpool, Chelsea should also go through maybe second in the group after Atletico. Spurs have an uphill battle though.
Sigurdsson landed an absolute bomb tonight in Everton's Europa league game, phenomenal goal. [I lack the gif skills to stick it here, but worth checking out].
That was an absolutely bonkers game! 😯
Bournemouth deserved a point out of that
You can feel for Bournemouth, having held on for so long then conceding so late. But that was a definite red card for Ake in the first half, Jesus would have been one on one with the goalie if not for the foul, if there had been defensive cover it would barely have merited a yellow, but there wasn't and that makes it a cold stone red.
City need a target man in the box, someone who they can bring on and can score headed goals or hold the ball up for the runners. As great as Sergio and Jesus are, they both are similar in wanting the ball into feet in the box, it allows the defending team to execute a plan to shut them out.
Yep, definitely a straight red, that. Couldn't understand how he stayed on the pitch. If you're the last man then you're walking. Mike Dean had a shocker all round though really
Do you think West Ham can do a reverse Arsenal and lose every ****ing match?
They shall be know as The Vincibles.
Well I hope so... Come on the toon
And daring to dream... Newcastle actually looking decent there, hopefully wobble over and some signings this week and on the up
There's an article in the guardian today saying far from strengthening the squad, Mike Ashley is insisting more players are sold.
It really is tragic what's happened to Newcastle under his ownership. Apparently he is trying to sell the club though. I'm sure nobody will be sorry to see the back of him. Least of all Rafa
Given the amount of crap that needs to go I can understand the sell then buy approach. Mitrovich needs gone and apparently there were no offers at all. We just got shot of a 50k/week lad who hardly played and will never play again.
Edit then the idiot scores
The reverse kiss of death? 😆
Who cares so long as somebody buys him before gets sent off again or they realise he can't run.
Bilic first for the chop? I said near the start of last season he is the new Martinez, taking over a well organised defensive team flattered him in his first season, now it is his team and methods and he is coming up short.
Yep, probably - he's had long enough, and spent enough too. Surprised at Palace's shambolic start.
I'm a bit out of touch with footie forums, I'd there an STW equivalent?
Looks like the whole Arsenal team are playing to leave.
So we sold a 30 goal a season striker- to Burnley - and we've scored four league and five cup goals in three games without him. Chris who?
MOT
Wenger out?
Chris who?
Would that will be Chris "goal at wembley on his premier league debut" Woods
Arsenal have bottled replacing Wenger for far too many years now.
Arsenal were terrible, can't see Wenger lasting long.
mikewsmith, do you want to buy Sissoko back, you can have him for 30 quid? Please?
Just watched us seem to deflate when he came on (again!), We were doing OK before that and now the Wembley curse has struck again.
Shockingly predictable, saw the team selection and knew we were screwed. Why the hell would you drop Sead, play two wing backs in a back three and not play Sanchez, Giroud and Lac up front? I'm right back to Wenger has to go.
Just watched MOTD2 - Arsenal were shambolic!
Just watching it now. Dear god! Arsenal are shockingly bad! And if you can't even get at least a consolation goal against Liverpools shonky defence? Mid table on that performance. At best. Awful! Absolutely no chance of top four this season Arsene, on that showing. They didnt have a single shot on target in 90 minutes
Just watched MOTD2 highlights...Blooming heck .... Liverpool wingers are quick!!!
Games like Arsenal suit Liverpool massively, if you hold a high line etc they'll be on you in a second. It's the teams who sit back they struggle more with. If teams attacked every day, they'd be pushing for a title.
Exactly. Liverpool will do the same as they did last season. They'll beat Arsenal or City, then lose the following week to West Brom or Stoke. They just can't play against say a Tony Pulis side, who are organised and will just sit back and soak it up, hoping to catch you on the break.
Last season against Burnley they'd had something like 80% possession but failed to score, then Burnley broke and walloped two past their flailing defence (which looks just as ropey as last season) with their only attacks of the game. I can see some repeats of that this season
Having said that, it makes for great footy. And I reckon they'll comfortably finish above Arsenal on the weekends showing. They're an absolute shambles!
City vs Liverpool will be interesting after the international break. Liverpool look ideally set up to hurt our achilles, but at the same time city will have much more effective possession than Arsenal did, and are more committed to winning the ball back. Could/should be a classic, of course now I have said that it will turn out to be a damp squid of a match.
United, so far, look to be the best team suited to break down the teams that defend deep, with their height and physicality.
Would that will be Chris "goal at wembley on his premier league debut" Wood[s]s[/s]
Fair play to him, thought he'd end up warming the PL bench like Taylor, Byram and Cook before him.
But the point I was really trying to make was that we seem to be doing ok without him
MOT
Now, what on earth are Cardiff playing at?
Liverpool in for the Ox and splashing the cash - makes me think Coutinho will be sold tomorrow. Still no centre halves, or goalie though 😕
Fortress Wembley continues for Spurs following last season's CL form eh ? It's going to be a long year I fear. At least Arsenal are worse, for now. Changing the manager is easier than your home stadium.
#wengerout
it horrible to see what he has done with his legacy and the team
He could have been remembered for the way he revolutionised the game and the invincibles instead he will be remembered for this sort of team with the same problems he seems unable to accept never mind resolve
Shame for him, his legacy and the fans
he should have retired
Totally agree, it's sad to see. A complete denial of needing a plan B, just continues to try plan A.
Plan A has been shit since the rest cottoned on.
WTF is Wenger playing at? Mustafi is a solid defender and he's going, Gabriel may not not be great, but a decent player and he's gone. Gibbs always performs well and he's gone! Perez always does well when given the odd chance, but never given a run, so leaving. The Ox is a bit of a headless chicken so he can go, but Sanchez must leave too. Meanwhile we play Holding who is a decent stopper but clueless going forward. So losing three decent defenders and no sign of replacements. Just beyond belief!
Do you reckon you'll have the players left to actually put a squad out? You could get people in seeing as there's less than 24 hours left of the transfer window, but it's begs the question 'who the **** would want to go to Arsenal under wenger now?
Never mind top four, I reckon you could be dlogging it out with Stoke and West Brom for mid table.
The invincibles seem a long long time ago. Ian Wright was livid on 5Live the other day. And he's always stood by Wenger. But even he knows he's completely lost the plot.
It's a tragedy really. As a United fan the golden era of the premiership to me is those top table battles with us and Arsenal. Keane and Vierra, Bergkamp, Keown, Adams, Terry Henry, the class of 92... the idea that the invincibles could be reduced to this farce under the same manager....?
You'd have thought he'd have seen Fergie go out on a high and took the hint
Seems a strange move to let Mustafi go. I can only assume something has gone on that we don't know about, or maybe Wenger really has lost the plot.
They now play a back 3 and they've only got 3 central defenders left.
Wenger always seemed to be the master of plucking out these youngsters or players you've never heard of and turning them into wonderful players like Henry, Viera, Fabragas, Petit, Llungberg and Anelka.
Look what he's done lately with Wilshere, Walcott, Chambers and the Ox. Even Bellerin looks a complete wreck now.
Ian Wright has been saying Wenger should leave for years. He has not ranted about it and been very polite about it (apart from the 6-0 Chelsea, Wenger's 1000th game from memory) but for the last 3/4 years he has been saying time for him to leave due to lack of a serious title challenge and the concept of at least 4th place is being good enough.
For Arsenal being a sensible and rational club they really needed to let him go at the end of the last season and start the proper move on then, they want the right coach and they don't come up mid season and they certainly will need time. Perhaps the problem is they know they will drop a level without Wenger until the new guy gets going. Add in a football rebuild is very pricy these days.
Worried that Newcastle will not spend, looks like very few outs so limited in's the wage bill is rediculous with mediocrity on long contracts and lots of cash, most have 1 year to go so are not stressed and are turning down wages they are worth.
Benitez to Arsenal by Christmas?
I think Arsenal were/are, with some justification, looking at Man Yoo and what happened after a long serving and successful manager leaves.
We are only this season starting to look like the team we were under Fergie. And it been a long and painful (sideways/sideways/backwards) journey so far, not to mention very very expensive. And we've still a work in progress until we're serious title challengers again, and looking something like in the Champions League.
The high water mark for Arsene was the Invincibles squad. So, unfortunately, that's whats expected. But it's like the treble winning Class of 92. There's a certain amount of good fortune (to say the least) as well as managerial skill involved in achieving that. It's just not realistic. That was a very different world to the one we're in now with Neymar's 200 million deal, and mediocre defenders costing 40 million
It's a shame that Wenger didn't take the chance to go out with dignity and his reputation more or less intact a couple of seasons ago. One of the great managers of the Premier League era.
Wenger was the right manager at the right time, but those times are long gone. He inherited a strong defence, brought in European preparation along with some quality up and coming players (primarily french) and created a very good team. Like everything though football has moved on and he hasn't stayed with the times.
I don't quite get why he doesn't retire, after all he's 67 and worth a fortune. Surely there is more to life than football and taking a battering in the press every week?
Spot on Dragon, in a nutshell!
As an Arsenal Fan of more years than I care to recall, I can say that his mistakes started a good number of years ago now and the most frustrating thing is that he keeps repeating them. Sure, his hands were tied financially for a long time, but he's never installed a core of steel in the team, which I believe every successful team needs. Matic was mentioned recently as a decent buy for Man yoo....exactly the sort of player Arsenal have needed for years.
That has been the main reason for the lack of success at the highest level, but now things have moved to a new level, what with him playing hardball with Sanchez, like it helps to have an unhappy player in the squad and turning down £60m to boot! Plus offloading solid defenders who are well able to do a decent job. Seriously...WTF?
Tim Krul on his way to Brighton. Wasn't he one of the best keepers in the Prem a few seasons ago? What happened?
Looks like Riyad Mahrez is joining his premiership winning team-mates Kante and Drinkwater at Chelski. Smart signings.
Van Dijk is off to Anfield where Klippity will no doubt ensure that, like all other decent defenders who've gone there before him, he'll soon be re-educated into the 'headless chicken' method of defense 😆
All I can say is that Arsenal Fan TV is going to be bloody fantastic this season.
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Renato Sanches [Bayern Munich - Swansea] Loan,praise be to clements Bayern connections,top 4 nailed on 😀
Don't be so hasty, Swansea seem intent on replacing Llorente with Boney, and he just doesn't seem capable of delivering the goals anymore.
...and Arsene has ensured that every week's 606 on 5 Live will be a 58 minute 'Wenger Out!' discussion, leaving 60 seconds apiece for the customary Liverpool "I really think this is our year" call, and a pissed Geordie slating Mike Ashley 😀
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/another-12-seasons-of-this-and-youre-fired-board-warns-wenger-20170210121905 ]Every season is Groundhog Day at Arsenal[/url]
Yep llorente to spurs is already done apparently,bony just need a run in the team to get it all back:),though selling our best two performers from last season is not great,ayew will fly this year,15 goals easy:)
I've bet a manure supoorting workmate the grand total of a pint that Liverpool will finish ahead of them this season. It was more for the look of derision, confusion and hatred on his face, worth at least the price of whatever canal water lager he chooses.
He's even more obsessed with the scousers than Binbins is...
I'm out for a few beers with my season-ticket-holding scouse mate tonight. I'm sure we'll have our normal seasonal twenty quid on it. With a bit more confidence on my behalf this season.
I was meant to be going to see the Seville Champions League game with her at Anfield in a couple of weeks, then she told me the ticket prices. Sixty ****ing quid!! 😯
Tim Krul on his way to Brighton. Wasn't he one of the best keepers in the Prem a few seasons ago? What happened?
Injury and has never regained sufficient fitness for the manager to rely on him. He let him go to Ajax on loan to try to prove it, but in the end you're paying for someone who you can't / won't risk.
Sixty ****ing quid!
Price of a pie and a coupla pints at The Emirates! 🙁
Even Thames valley police are getting in on the Arsenal bashing act
Please don’t check your phone for updates whilst driving, you’ll end up with more points than Arsenal.”
manure supoorting
Can't tell if intentional?
Price of a pie and a coupla pints at The Emirates!
Least when the pies run out there's no bullying going on...
latest news...although could well be fake news is that Citeh have offered £55k plus £5k and Arsenal have asked for a few hours to sign Thomas lemar...which they are confident they will do!
Yeah right!
Will they be offering his release clause plus a packet of Monster Munch?
Everyone set for the evening then....
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£55k plus £5k
So £60 grand?
Ballys offer, but seems a bit cheap.
Not as cheap as sulking for a year then going on a free.
The fact that that is even a possibility is insane! Who on earth is in charge of contracts at Arsenal?