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Live in the ground floor of a small development of apartments. Reading the "noisy neighbour" thread made me wonder what's considered reasonable.

Listening to music during the day? I see no reason why I can't turn it up fairly loud. What about watching a movie at the weekend? Surround amp goes on and the place might shake a bit, but it goes off before midnight.

Neighbour on one side has about a thousand prim little signs stuck in the windows saying "Shift worker - quiet please". Well, I work shifts and don't expect the rest of the world to stop for me during the day, and use earplugs if I have to.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 1:10 pm
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Listening to music during the day? I see no reason why I can't turn it up fairly loud.

I can appreciate your intention to be considerate, but I would find even this obnoxious. First of all, what if I was living beside you, and figured I had the right to turn my music up fairly loud at the same time?

Whose right trumps whose?

Furthermore, there are many other simple human factors to consider. What if your neighbour has a baby, for example? Or what if he/she works from home? I am NOT suggesting that anyone has to kowtow to every neighbourhood contingency, but... just listening to music at a reasonable level is hardly a huge sacrifice for the sake of communal well-being.

Ultimately, I think it is this latter point that stands above all others.

To Sweden* I say, where if noise can be heard from your earphones in a public place, they are considered too loud! 😉

*I don't know if this is actually true of just anecdotal. But it makes a good story.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 2:19 pm
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To me if you can hear it and i mean actually hear the words and not be aware of background noise it is too loud. As for when, i tend to go figure 11pm to 8am as being when people sleep. If you want to invest in soundproofing a room so you can turn the amp up fine, but don't assume your neighbour will want to listen to your banging tunes. In all likely-hood they are recording the disturbance before submitting a file to the council.

You live in a community, you have neighbours accept it and be courteous, there are enough ***** around as it is.

PS, why do those who play music loud always listen to crap?


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 2:27 pm
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Uh, just to clarify, I'm not talking about loud as in shaking the walls, it's loud as in "not wearing headphones". Neighbour has never said anything, though perhaps I should visit and see how loud it actually sounds in her place.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 2:30 pm
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somthing to think about, how much of her noise can you hear? can you hear her talking, shouting, having sex, etc. Can you gauge your noise against that to get an idea of how thick the walls might be?


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 2:39 pm
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. Neighbour has never said anything, though perhaps I should visit and see how loud it actually sounds in her place.

this is a good idea IMo. Just ask them how loud it is


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 2:44 pm
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When I first moved into my place (an end-of-terrace), I paid a visit to my next-door neighbour, and asked him about my family's noise level. I just wanted him to know that, if we were being too loud, I would like to know.

I figured it was least I could do, as I have kids, and would a) like them to show the same kind of respect, and b) would really appreciate it if a potentially noisy neighbour did the same to me.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 2:45 pm
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Surround amp goes on and the place might shake a bit, but it goes off before midnight.
If you need it that loud get a pair of wireless headphones, even for during the day!

I live in a semi and my next door neighbour came round to check on what was an acceptable for his new surround sound system. We agreed a level and I went round to his and did the same, so problem avoided with a bit of common sense/courtesy.

I work shifts too and just accept that life goes on for people working normal hours, as should your neighbour with the stickers up. Luckily I can sleep through anything and even woke in the morning after the storm of '87 with my bedroom window blown open and the room covered in leaves.....never heard a thing 8)


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 4:28 pm
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Quite frankly if you can be heard by your neighbours more than once in a blue moon, you're too noisy and it's completely lacking respect for everyone else. Noise is the problem, not silence. If you want to be noisy you are the one causing the question and you need to ensure it doesnt cause a problem.

Surround sound systems, home theatre etc do not belong in semi detached/terraced houses. If you can't afford a detached you have to make some sacrifices with how much noise you can make, simple.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 9:42 pm
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I regularly hear the screaming baby next door to me, as well as doors being closed etc. Rubbish construction if you ask me.

Considering my hearing is shonky, I only listen to music via headphones. Pretty considerate of me.

And it drowns out the sound of that screaming baby.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 9:51 pm
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I just wanted him to know that, if we were being too loud, I would like to know.

I've done this every place I've moved into. Never had much trouble.

One old biddy two floors down complained to the council, but I asked them if any of the adjacent tenants had complained, they said no, and turned out she was a serial complainer anyway.

One family next door once moaned cos we had a BBQ in our garden( shared house). We'd invited them beforehand anyway, and it was 6pm on a Saturday.

Place I'm in now, i've had me choons dem blasting out n a summer weekend afternoon, neighbours below and next door like my taste in music, so it's all good!

Yer always gonna get the odd miserable sod. But generally, keep yer loudness to weekend afternoon sessions of a couple of hours or so, not all day, and turn things down by about 9 on a weekday.

As for shift workers; had a flatmate who worked shifts. Arranged a BBQ for some friends, England World Cup 2006 game. He told me he'd not be working that night, so I assumed it was ok. Night before, he says his shift's been changed last minute, could I cancel the BBQ. Now, I'd spent loads on food and drink, made a pile of burgers, done some chicken and that, several friends had made plans to come over. Organised a week or more in advance, so plenty of notice.

What do you think my response was, kiddies? 😀


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 9:56 pm
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When we lived in a Glasgow Flat the new neighbours had a 28hr housewarming party/rave at the point where Karaoke started again at 1am I went and hammered on the door (heard them going shhhhhhhhhh and turning the lights off) so hammered till they opened up. That was too much noise and I explained that it was too much (ok saying my brother was on duty as a copper that night may have been a little lie)

Now we live out of town where we have to be fairly loud to wake the neighbours or them to wake us, much better


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 9:58 pm
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Surround amp goes on and the place might shake a bit, but it goes off before midnight.

How inconsiderate !As if midnight is early .Why has it got to be so loud anyway?


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:00 pm
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Not everyone has perfect hearing, ahem!


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:09 pm
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my hearing is not as good as it could be, but I wouldn't dream of being a noisy neighbour (practicing my drums is not done at home), not since we moved here & found the neighbours to be like church mice.

Last place, well, he deserved all he got 😈


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:11 pm
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Films should be loud enough that the sub gives a bit of impact. Films through shite speakers not being pushed hard enough are rubbish.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:15 pm
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What do you think my response was, kiddies?

Well we know you're a model of consideration to others, so doubtless you cancelled?


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:26 pm
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Surround sound systems, home theatre etc do not belong in semi detached/terraced houses. If you can't afford a detached you have to make some sacrifices with how much noise you can make, simple.

Bollocks. I live in a semi. I have a Yamaha surround amp that I listen to music with and use with the tv. Using it at the mo', it says 56Db on the volume, and I've never had issues with either neighbour in the two flats in the converted semi attached to mine. I'd love a detached house; if you'd be so kind as to donate the £3-400,000 I'd need in my locality I'll happily go buy one. In the meantime I'll have to live in my £180,000 hovel, cos it's all I can xxoxin' afford, you sanctimonious clot.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:27 pm
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aint you da MAN


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:33 pm
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Well we know you're a model of consideration to others, so doubtless you cancelled?

😀

I'm flattered that you recognise what a nice person I am.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:38 pm
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[i]So, when can I be a noisy neighbour?[/i]

When you have a party and invite your neighbours.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:41 pm
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To be fair, even in a detached house with double glazing, you can still be affected by noisy neighbours. We were subjected to continual high volume 'music' together with karaoke, and BBQ's where guests all wore England tops and every second word started with 'f'.

Mind you, they lived there courtesy of the tax-payer. 🙄


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:46 pm
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there's "noise" and there's "being a noisy neighbour"

last place we lived in, the house next door was rented out; one family moved in and at first they were ok. One night though, the man of the house got wasted & turned the TV or music up really loud at about 1am. I knocked on the door & politely asked him to turn it down - he did & I thought that was the end of it...

not bloody likely

he started making our lives hell. first it would be loud TV/music whenever he realised we were in. Then it was objects thrown at the house windows, and dropped on my car from their first floor windows. one of the objects was a gun. Probably a BB/replica but it looked like a Browning 9mm automatic pistol to me. Oh yes, and the cable from the sky dish and the incoming phone lines were both severed.

This went on for about 4 more weeks, until eventually there was a confrontation in the street - no fisticuffs or owt but a lot of people shouting at us & threatening behaviour. We took off to the in-laws for the weekend, and my then girlfriend stayed with her folks for about 3 weeks, terrified of coming home. In the meantime we made arrangements to buy another house (luckily, we could afford to do so, but that's another story)

Eventually the noise & confrontations calmed down, but the day we moved out the bastard had the cheek to ask if he could rent my house as his landlord had served him notice!


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:49 pm
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After many years of flat-hopping and some really, really bad neighbours, I've settled comfortably into a terraced house.

Our neighbours are neighbourly and once every two or three months, they have a late night with friends. We can hear them, their music and so on, but it's not a problem because we know that the next night there won't be a peep. We behave in a similar fashion.

No need to go round to their house and listen to the stereo blaring from my house and agree a 'bearable' volume.

I do realise that we've been lucky though - when we first moved in, the neighbours spent their lives blaring out shite music all day and night. I feel the same way about surround sound systems - no need. If I want to crank up the guitar and amp once in a while, it's fine - the neighbours know it won't happen again for a good while and the headphones will come out of the drawer.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that we can all bear the occasional bit of bad behaviour / noise - it's when it's predictable and constant that it becomes unbearable.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:49 pm
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When we had a problem with noisy neighbours earlier in the year we were told that if it was disturbing you then it was too loud - any time of the day. Simple as.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:50 pm
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The point I am trying to make is that it isn't just music or TV that can annoy. This screaming baby next door does my head in. On and off during the day, baby cries. I find this as intolerable as loud music or TV.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:55 pm
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We have very noisy neighbours and it's a serious problem. Amittedly, they're very rarely noisy after say 11pm but when she's there, the noise starts at 7am and if she's in all day it's incessant. She plays the music very loud so everyone has to shout at each other, then he plays his xbox even louder because he can't hear it otherwise, the kid has grown up in an environment where everything is loud so he screams and shouts all the tie and will no doubt growq up and piss his neighbours off terribly.

I'm easy going normally and I've only been round a few times when it's been extra loud or late but it's a proper mind-****. We can't lie in, ever.

I'd agree with coffeeking myself. If you have a terrace or semi, have some ****ing consideration for your neighbours, they could turn the noise up during your quiet times but they don't. I've got a proper hardcore amp and speakers as tall as my wife, but I leave it down virtually all of the time, to do anything else would be unfair because I'm aware that another house connects to ours.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 11:00 pm
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I agree thereis ahuge distinction between a anoeghbour occasionally being noisy and a noisy neighbour.
I dont really care what time you think is ok to play your music loud enough to rock da house I dont actually want to listen to your music or the film that you have chosen to view as I have other things to do
Having a party as and when I can live with.
One of my neighbours used to be a pub singer and practice once a month in the living room for about 3 hours. We always discussed which one I always went out to let him do this. Simple
Give and take and mutual respect if they can hear you and you have not discussed it then you are doing neither.

This screaming baby next door does my head in. On and off during the day, baby cries. I find this as intolerable as loud music or TV.

As i suspect do the parents but what do you expect them to do turn it down? It is not really in their control is it? That is just unfortunate they have young kids they are not being incosiderate the child is. My neighbour once complained about this to which I said if i had a bloody remote I would heve muted it by now you know- I was very tired - the same neighbour who sang actually.I apologised ,next time I saw him, and we laughed about it.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 11:04 pm

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