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[Closed] So, What is the UK Constitution?

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Lots of media coverage about “Constitutional Reform”…

But how do you reform something that isn’t even written down. It has always struck me that the "unwritten” bits of the Constitution are the real stumbling blocks to any reform – the Royal Prerogative, the Royal Duchies etc.

I know from some of my previous posts / questions about Cornwall, that we have some well-informed forum members on here. Be interested to know how folks think the current maniacal ranting about various “democratic” options can be implemented without some fundamental change to the core problem – i.e. is the UK a fudge…


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:30 pm
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constitutional
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adjective
1.
relating to an established set of principles governing a state.
"a constitutional amendment"
"a constitutional monarchy"
synonyms: legal, lawful, legitimate, licit, authorized, permitted, permissible; More
2.
relating to someone's nature or physical condition.
"a constitutional weakness"

You don't need a constitution to be constitutional


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:31 pm
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If it's a fudge, then it's a fudge with nuts in it.


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:32 pm
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Basically its whatever those in power say it is, this week. A bit like the bible, but with fewer miracles, and the book of Revelations extended to cover many more areas


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:32 pm
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1 - don't make a fuss
2 - though shalt queue


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:33 pm
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2 - lol! My GF has not travelled outside the UK much and we were in Switzerland recently. She was quite shocked by the lack of protocol when waiting for, and alighting, buses!


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:42 pm
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Quite keen on curries, as long as they're not too hot, unless you've had 6 or 7 pints beforehand. Next day, not too good.


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:43 pm
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Hmmm lets think of things that have been written down...
the Bible, the Quran, the US Constitution (e.g. the right to arm bears)

Then let's think how well that has gone 😕 Maybe NOT having things written down allows a bit of wiggle room and stops the pedants from being revolting.


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:47 pm
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TAKE THE FIFTH!!!


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 1:50 pm
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Hmmm lets think of things that have been written down...
the Bible, the Quran, the US Constitution (e.g. the right to arm bears)

Then let's think how well that has gone Maybe NOT having things written down allows a bit of wiggle room and stops the pedants from being revolting.

Good point, but makes things difficult to fix if the problems aren't clearly defined? or do you just muddle along from one compromise to another?


 
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Posted : 22/09/2014 1:58 pm
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or do you just muddle along from one compromise to another?

Welcome to British democracy (or rather our elective oligarchy) - not perfect but looking at the alternative options it's the best of a bad bunch 😆


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 2:00 pm
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No one read the Magna Carta then?


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 7:43 pm
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I thought it was just the Yanks that banged on about Magna Carter... We moved on from that? Added and changed stuff...


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 7:46 pm
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Magna carta is a pretty piece of paper but about 98% repealed and was only ever a narrow preservation of the "rights" of a very small subsection of society.


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 7:49 pm
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Sorry 92% repealed.


 
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In the United Kingdom, the Bill of Rights is further accompanied by the Magna Carta, the Petition of Right, the Habeas Corpus Act 1679 and the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949 as some of the basic documents of the uncodified British constitution. A separate but similar document, the Claim of Right Act, applies in Scotland. [b]The Bill of Rights (1688 or 1689) was one of the inspirations for the United States Bill of Rights.[3][/b]

Along with the Act of Settlement 1701, the Bill of Rights is still in effect in all Commonwealth realms.[4]


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689


 
Posted : 22/09/2014 11:04 pm
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the US Constitution (e.g. the right to arm bears)

Then let's think how well that has gone


The US Constitution has gone very well. It's probably the single most influential document in the spread of human and civil rights worldwide. If you think that the US Constitution is just about guaranteeing ursine access to armaments, you're missing a lot.


 
Posted : 23/09/2014 3:56 am

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