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A charlatan bathroom fitter had me for a grand in 2004 and today I bumped into him as he was manning a stall at the village fete.
First reaction was to drop him with a step in side kick to the balls and maybe a back fist to the nose if he was still standing. But this would have cost me my karate licence and probably my liberty.
Second reaction was to announce loudly what he had done.
Third reaction was to walk away.
I took option 3 but suspect that whilst option 1 would have been most satisfying option 2 would have been best.
I feel very uneasy now. Hence this post.
Option 4 - wee in his shoes and pwn him with bombers.
Tsk, this place 🙄 going to the dogs.
What is he selling?
Ask him if he would pay you back that £1k?
If not then announce to everyone that he rip you off but you need evidence or he can sue you.
Option 2 sounded like a sane point of call.
Out him and have his presence known to all the locals what he had done.
Tsk, this place going to the dogs.
Not really, the issue os being discussed online instead of face to face, seems about right for here. 😉
I admire your willpower Harry, I couldn't have walked away from that situation!
I would have spent all day there. Asking him where my money is every time a customer arrived.
I admire your willpower Harry, I couldn't have walked away from that situation!
Wife and kids with me in a packed marquee.
Wife didn't spot him. If she had she would have dropped him with a step in side kick to the balls and maybe a back fist to the nose if he was still standing. This would have cost her karate licence and her liberty.
not even an "oi! you got that grand you owe me?" 😕
Your a better man than me .
I'd regret doing nothing more than doing something. You had your chance to make a difference in the world and instead you went home for some internet sympathy
Your a better man than me .
I don't feel that way at the moment.
It's one of those spur of the moment things, I think I'd have thought about it for a bit, got the phone out and camera ready, gone back and taken a fairly obvious photo and said great, thank you very much.
When asked why, tell him that it's now possible to show everyone on Facebook who it was who ripped you off for £1k back in '04, revenge being a dish best served cold, then walk away.
You had your chance to make a difference in the world and instead you went home for some internet sympathy
eh?
Harry_the_Spider - Member
You had your chance to make a difference in the world and instead you went home for some internet sympathy
eh?
I think he meant you could have hammered the bloke there and then to teach that bloke a lesson.
You could have at least had a word and made the conman feel uncomfortable to look in your eyes while telling you why he stole your money, at most you could have got a grand of pain but you decided to come on this forum full of ponsey handwringers so one of them could tell you that you took the high road and did the right thing. No offence like. It's just this forum in general.
Think I'm done with it
5 years ago I would have walked away, currently I would have not walked away..
off you pop.Think I'm done with it
You should have helped yourself to whatever he was selling, while looking straight at him.
Slat/hoof interface, shirley?
Aren't martial arts touted as being good for confidence?
and control
Yup control.
Don't beat yourself up for what you could have done. Yes, it would have felt great to have kicked his head in. For about 10 seconds. Yes it would have felt great to call him out. That would most likely have led to kicking his head in.
If you haven't got your grand back in a decade then it can't have been 'that' important.
Wait...you can have a karate licence?
eh?
I think he is calling you a pussy.
Only [s]if you are leathal[/s] because they can charge you a registration fee.
Difficult one but IME you always feel bad after having done nothing
Personally, and i know this will come as a surprise to everyone, but I would have lacked the self control to do nothing
Public humiliation of at least one of us [ possibly both] would have been my option
good for confidence?...and control...and dancing 😆
Wait...you can have a karate licence?
Insurance etc. You need one to compete and do gradings.
They also weed out the sort of idiot who loses control and gives somebody a very public beating next to the tombola stall.
We need the story of the rip off please.
I'm assuming if he had a stall he's contactable?
I think I would have had a chat with him. Or more likely send the Mrs!
Did a crap job and ran half way through. Couldn't contact him (dead mobile, website down etc).
Whatever you do you need to do it to a value of £1k plus some other inconveniences that is associated with £1k. Not more and not less.
Go back next week and do it right this time.
I was going to say you did the right thing. You are the better man.
You should have helped yourself to whatever he was selling, while looking straight at him.
But this runs a very very close second
"Go back next week and do it right this time."
You're not quite grasping the concept of 'village fete'.
CaptainFlashheart - Member
Slat/hoof interface, shirley?
Or asked Flashy to do it in his special shoes.
so you didn't speak to him at all? not even a snidey 'do you still fit bathrooms?'
Just out of interest, what was he selling?
I'm interested to know if you'd have ended up with Something you could have sold in the classifieds, for which I think you've missed a trick to get your money back and made a profit.
Wow, first you let a guy get away with ripping you off for that length of time and then secondly done nothing when the opportunity fell at your feet?
No wonder so many people get away with ripping folk off for a living. I'd be too ashamed of myself to even share that story.
It could be worse, he could have put it on a public forum.... Oh, wait....
you could have got your todger out and wee'd on his fairy cakes, if he was selling cakes.
If , however he was manning the 'rat up a drainpipe' game there would have been enough ironing Alanis Morrissette would have been convinced she was right.
You should've just pinned him to the floor and written "LIAR" across his forehead in permanent marker.
Did he recognise you?
It must be Sunday evening after the pub, the internet hard men are out
I'd probably do the same and then berate my self.
In an alternative universe an alternative you probable went all postal on him and got arrested. And now feels worse than you do now.
£1000 lessons are tough but certainly lessons you remember.
It's why Check-a-trade was invented.
monksie - Member
"Go back next week and do it right this time."
You're not quite grasping the concept of 'village fete'.
Surely you can make the 'village fete' more interesting if someone is confronting someone? No?
Dear oh dear....you're clearly a bit of a walkover Harry.
I think Harry did exactly what any self respecting Englishman should. He tutted, gave a haughty look and bid the ne'er-do-well good day.
...you did give him a haughty look, right....right?!?!
[i]It must be Sunday evening after the pub, the internet hard men are out[/i]
Not really, they are just wondering why you wouldn't even say something to someone who owes you a grand!
spchantler - Member
It must be Sunday evening after the pub, the internet hard men are out
😆 So funny!
I think we just want to know why he did not do something. 😀
I've still got 2 on my list:
My former landlord who rented me a flat twined with Atlantis, he strung me along for 12 months saying he'd fix the heating and/or the damp problem until I gave notice and left - he claimed the damp was my fault and gave an invoice for redecorating to the exact amount of my bond as "evidence" to the bond people, would took his side - they're an "evidence based organisation" apparently, he had some, I had none so they simply gave him my £900 and told me to sod off. He knew the ropes, I didn't and I've been annoyed ever since. I ordered some hardcore catalogues to his house but otherwise I'm still waiting for my opportunity to exact revenge.
My former employer who made me redundant 4 weeks before my wedding not because the business was struggling or I hadn't done a brilliant job - but because my contract stated they had to pay me a bonus of £3k if I hit a certain target, I smashed it to bits, increased the number of their customers by the power of 10 over 2 years, but it was cheaper to make up some cock and bull story and make me redundant than pay what they promised to. They let me go via email over a weekend and blocked my email address from replying the gutless pricks. I got a new job in 3 days and spilled my guts to their competitors via a firm who contacted me on LI for a couple of grand, so I actually made more money, but I'll ruin them if I get the chance. I trash them (honestly) if I'm ever asked about my time there - I've dared them to say I'm lying and they don't have a non-disclosure so **** 'em.
Don't worry, you'll bump into him again and have another chance, it's fete.
"Surely you can make the 'village fete' more interesting if someone is confronting someone? No?"
They're usually annual affairs rather than weekly.
Elect to trial by combat.
Your a better man than me .
I don't feel that way at the moment.
Well your a better man than him*
*I don't know you so actually you might be a complete cock for all I know.**
**But still probably less of a cock than him so I guess my point is still valid. Oh and your wife and I share a relative in common in Henry Bowers and so she must have as good a judgement of people as me and if she married you then I'm going to concede that your very unlikely to be a cock at all.
Hope that makes you feel better 🙂
This is because you're a vegetarian, if you were all ****ed up on bovine hormones and pig steroids you'd have stoved his maracas in.
FACT.
monksie - Member
"Surely you can make the 'village fete' more interesting if someone is confronting someone? No?"
They're usually annual affairs rather than weekly.
Oh well, next year then but eventually the path will cross again.
I thought it normal to be ripped off by a bathroom Fitter. 'It just broke in my hands mate', X you bought is just junk and to leave someone with a job 90% done.
Any NWest Tiler/handimen in here free to finish for me?
How easy it is to garner support in a beef without providing a scrap of evidence in support of the argument.
There's a constant dribble of internet hero's through here. All full of great ideas for someone else's retribution.
I'm not going to tell you what I would have done, because I don't know, but all you hard men need to remember one thing. You don't have to be scared to get your ass kicked.
I'd say you did the right thing. Yes it was £1000 and probably more of a principal feeling of being had over.
But at the end of the day the crap he let behind has likely been sorted and lifes too short to bring further problems by starting something.
I'd have made sure I got eye contact, smiled and a nice good morning - assuming he remembered who I was. Then take a picture, walk away and do nothing.
Much better to leave him with a feeling of uncertainty 🙂
You've moved on.. he hasnt ..karma etc
I think I know where 'arry is coming from. I found the whole bathroom experience stressful. Invasive in your home and I just wanted rid/forget and move on.
Saying that did he take 1k and leave/not come back to do 1k's worth of work?
I'd be having a conversation with him with a view to involving the Police tbh. Mine - we paid him for what he had done then asked if he could leave.
I second the earlier comment regarding the application of a Marzocchi product, but hey, that's the kinda guy I am.
Elect to trial by combat.
So... it's a fete worse than death?
A bake off would be better and more savage.
The loser never eats a pudding again.
I'd be interested to hear, despite having a karate licence and all, how you managed to let yourself get ripped off for a grand in the first place.
So... it's a fete worse than death?
Fait accompli, I think.
THere is no fete but what we make for ourselves...
2004 was a long time ago mind
THere is no fete but what we make for ourselves...
Today could have been a Judgement Day.
2004 was a long time ago mind
Yeah - that £1k would be worth £2.2k now at 7% growth pa.
I'd be interested to hear, despite having a karate licence and all, how you managed to let yourself get ripped off for a grand in the first place.
Did a crap job and ran half way through. Couldn't contact him (dead mobile, website down etc).
It happens. Today I was let down by a fabricator, I arranged a lorry to pick up steel that was not ready ( had been told it would be )
Had plant / crane / men waiting on site. Expensive day with f all to show except for a peed off client. You put your trust in people and sometimes you get let down. Id like to give him a good crack, but as he has £25k of my steel in his yard I have to be nice..... for now
Today could have been a Judgement Day.
12yrs ago could have been BATHROOM DAY for the op.
Harry has fete on his side
...increased the number of their customers by the power of 10 over 2 years
I would have sacked you too.
Either for being bad at maths, or exaggerating 🙂
"Village fete" is a bit misleading - the village in question is a Manchester suburb, thus the 'fete' is crawling with police on the lookout for drug dealers, 'nearly new' power tool stalls and cheeky chappies who might have absconded from the prison 1.5 miles down the road.
Any angry Hong Kong Phooey impersonators would be cuffed and thrown in the back of the van quicker than you can say shonky grouting.



