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So apart from the rocket looking like a massive Johnson which everyone seems OK with, what on earth (pun intended) was that utterly cringeworthy landing/door opening nonsense all about? I mean what was the point of such a poorly executed shit show. The door looked like it was made of card and made the whole thing look fake. They opened it themselves and then hastily closed it so Jeff could pretend to open it himself with a massive spanner? Plus he fell over walking round it peering into the windows.
And don’t get me started on Katy Perry saying she “studied STEM and Pythagoras for several months in preparation”. She was literally saying words she thought were associated with maths to try and look clever (maths must be the biggest bit of space rocketing obviously because maths is for clever people and so is astronauting, so you know…)
Am I missing something or WTAF is wrong with these people?
Are you saying that if you could, you'd have refused? I'd have been on it like a tramp on hot chips.
As for longwordism, I don't really understand that. The astronauts had no more control over the flight than a passenger in an aircraft. Whether they might have had in an emergency, I don't know.
Utter bollocks. One of them kissed the ground after her 11 minute fairground ride.
Meanwhile, after 10 months in space. Suni Williams was far more dignified.
Utter bollocks. One of them kissed the ground after her 11 minute fairground ride.
Meanwhile, after 10 months in space, Suni Williams was far more dignified.
Are you saying that if you could, you'd have refused? I'd have been on it like a tramp on hot chips.
Im not saying I wouldn’t fancy a trip to space, I’m saying the whole thing looked like a very poorly executed PR stunt with elements of it undermining all of its credibility. Why was Katy Perry saying she studied loads of maths in preparation when a) clearly she didn’t need to and b) clearly knows nothing about either maths or space. What was the point?
And all that door opening charade. What was the point of that too?
There were a couple of posts on LinkedIn this week expressing concern about what message this was sending at a time when the names and achievements of female scientists who worked on the actual space programmes were being marginalised.
Talented in their own right they may be but proper space explorers and astronauts they are emphatically not. Rocket passengers maybe.
Apart from the women in space bit I have no idea what on earth you're talking about. But clearly the answer to your question is ....
To keep people like yourself, who follow this type of dross, amused and entertained.
Why was Katy Perry saying she studied loads of maths in preparation when a) clearly she didn’t need to and b) clearly knows nothing about either maths or space. What was the point?
Maybe she wanted to?
Basically a billionaire flexing against other billionaires. Harry the Spider nails it while The Generalist pretends he’s only heard about it.
What Harry and Garage say echo my sentiment. General just wants to join in but doesn’t know anything so resorts to trolling. Bless. 🙄
The point? Probably so a man could say, yes women, you can go into space (but on my terms). Which is obviously not great.
Perry apparently regretting https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/katy-perry-blue-origin-memes-reaction-backlash-b2735620.html
Angela Collier (an actual woman in STEM) has some thoughts:
If you don't want to watch the whole thing now I advise skipping to the end to see the part (36 min) where she compares Shatner's reaction to the reaction Bezos now requires if you want to go on one of his jollies.
**** Jeff Bezos.
The sending of these (celeb) women into space so they can inspire and be role models for young girls is rather at odds to all the long serving, successful female NASA employees being fired/bios being removed from their website ‘because DEI’
Perhaps Bozos' stunt would've had more impact if he'd said, an all female team of specialists here on Earth have sent an all female team of specialists into space.
But even then, 11mins does seem like a very expensive jolly.
Seemed to be a piss poor version of
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EmI77ZBeJrQ
With Bezos obviously taking the (sausage) roll of Captain Hogthrob (Quite apt given he's a throbber himself)
But even then, 11mins does seem like a very expensive jolly.
Of course it is. But if you had half a million quid burning a hole in your back pocket, wouldn't you go?
The fact that it was an all-female 'crew' is a gimmick but it is a notable one, and it has wholly predictably attracted a succession of fragile blokes falling over each other to kick them back to the kerb where they belong.
What was (mildly) interesting to me was that whilst the ‘girl power’ aspect of it was obviously a load of nonsense and clearly just like the other Blue Origin flights preceding it was a very expensive fairground ride - it did carry some real risk. Rockets quite often go wrong, parachutes quite often fail to deploy and so on. It kind of reminded me of the Oceangate sub - Billionaire’s on an ego trip and rich celebrities with no real concept of what is actually happening and how dangerous it can be.
Would I go up in it given a free trip - not a chance. One of these will go pop soon enough.
It was pretty cringe wirthy. Katy Perry in particular... Surprised that daisy didn't wilt with embarrassment.
The fact that it was an all-female 'crew' is a gimmick but it is a notable one, and it has wholly predictably attracted a succession of fragile blokes falling over each other to kick them back to the kerb where they belong.
Could be we've been reading different sources, but from what I've seen it's women who have been putting the boot in more.
I think it's the fact that a billionaire who has been supporting a government that is hell bent on rolling back women's rights and erasing women's contributions to science (and everything else) who paid for the whole thing in order to promote his space tourism bullshit.
But yeah, probably fragile men don't like it either.
Having watched HIGNFY, I'm looking forward to Julian Clary's idea of an all gay space trip. Alan Titchmarshs lawyers may have a different opinion
Of course it is. But if you had half a million quid burning a hole in your back pocket, wouldn't you go?
Would I pay a Trumpster to go? No f*** chance.
The fact that it was an all-female 'crew' is a gimmick but it is a notable one, and it has wholly predictably attracted a succession of fragile blokes falling over each other to kick them back to the kerb where they belong.
It's notable chiefly as a publicity stunt for a supporter of a regime that, as noted elsewhere, is attacking women's rights, careers and bodily autonomy.
Typically hard to disagree with Marina.
One small step for a woman, one giant leap backwards for feminism.
One small step for a woman, one giant leap backwards for feminism.
This. Even down to the figure-hugging catsuits worn, as compared to polo shirts and joggers on the ISS and bulky suits on the return journey into space
No agency has reported if the parcel they were delivering for the jungle website actually reached the correct address. Presumably the "delivered" picture was actually one taken from an unknown neighbours bin/porch
Or if delivery was free with prime
I think we should be thankful to Jeff.
Not because he's a champion of women's rights, STEM or "space exploration" (tourism) but because he is deftly drawing attention to the excesses and utterly detached nonsense of our super-rich overlords.
Every time he punts some of the elite into the upper atmosphere for 10 mins on his dick rocket, it just highlights the gap between 'Them' and 'Us' again... Whatever social spin he tries to put on it (in this case a thin veneer of feminism) just ends up Streisanding it even more...
Thanks Jeff keep this up and you'll be as popular as Elon...
And now, having couldn't have cared less about the whole thing, I've had to watch Katie Perry opening the door too early and the YT feed quickly cut while they closed it again!
What a load of utter shite!!! And carpet.... On the desert floor 🤦♂️
As someone pointed out elsewhere - Epcot has a pretty good space ride and it lasts 12 minutes!
Does 11 minutes actually get you into space? Clearly it must do from a scientific definition perspective or they couldn't make that claim. But I'd feel short changed if I didn't get at least one orbit around the globe and ideally far enough from earth that you could get the money shot of the whole planet.
If I was going to fanny around (probably not the best word to use in this context!) with a short 'n sharp wannabe astronaut experience I think a ride in the vomit comet would be more fun.
Does 11 minutes actually get you into space?
The number I heard for the amount of time they were actually in space (ie, at an altitude of more than 100km) was 1 minute 34 seconds.
Katy Perry probably could have managed Song 2 if she sang it chipmunk style.
And now, having couldn't have cared less about the whole thing, I've had to watch Katie Perry opening the door too early
You had to watch something you couldn't care less about, and then felt the need to hit the Internet in order to tell everyone that you couldn't care less about it?
Are you stuck for a hobby? Bikes are fun, I hear.
Does 11 minutes actually get you into space?
I believe rockets are quite quick.
Does 11 minutes actually get you into space?
I believe rockets are quite quick.
Space is only an hour's drive away (if your car could go straight up)
I believe rockets are quite quick.
Call me old fashioned , but I'd be kind of hoping the journey home was slightly slower....
I saw a great coment from someone on social meedya who said 'if spending 11 minutes in space makes you an astronaut, then I'm a gynecologist'
They didn't go in to space, that module doesn't look like it has the protection not to be burnt up on re-entry. One of the Cosmo'Nauts went on a trial skydive specifically to test the hair-do prior to the show, which should tell you all you need to know.
They didn't go in to space, that module doesn't look like it has the protection not to be burnt up on re-entry. One of the Cosmo'Nauts went on a trial skydive specifically to test the hair-do prior to the show, which should tell you all you need to know.
You only need a heat shield when you hit the atmosphere at orbital speeds. If you go straight up and straight down it's not a problem.
You had to watch something you couldn't care less about, and then felt the need to hit the Internet in order to tell everyone that you couldn't care less about it?
Are you stuck for a hobby? Bikes are fun, I hear.
I didn't care about it either. Or rather, I didn't care about it enough to investigate further. I just thought, 'All women space mission, cool. I guess they figured out that size medium space suit problem.'
But it seemed to upset quite a few women whose opinion I respect. So I looked into it and then I got upset as well.
Weirdly enough, I have time to ride my bike as well as read up about anti-feminist publicity stunts that might as well be called, 'Let them eat cake in space!'
Was it because they were women that they weren't allowed to drive it?
The astronauts had no more control over the flight than a passenger in an aircraft.
If you read The Right Stuff by Tom Wolfe, the original plan for the Mercury capsule had no windows but the astronauts demanded one. They were accomplished military pilots and couldn't accept that they were basically just passengers. They used to joke about having to clean the monkey shit off the seat because they sent chimps up in some of the early flights before they were willing to risk humans.
I know a few conspiracy theory types that think the whole thing is fake and even features satanic images. It does seem to whiff of fakery to me too TBH but to what benefit I dont know? Surely no ones cares about some millionaires nipping off for a 11 minute jolly inside a massive dildo anyway.
They didn't go into space.
They did. 100km has long been recognised as the boundary to space. They hit 106km. They were in space. What they didn’t do was orbit, and if you have issue with that, you need to take it up with NASA as their first astronaut was Al Shepard whose flight hit 170km and also didn’t orbit. Dead or alive, I wouldn’t argue with Al Shepard.
100km has long been recognised as the boundary to space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_astronaut_badges
If you read The Right Stuffby Tom Wolfe, the original plan for the Mercury capsule had no windows but the astronauts demanded one. They were accomplished military pilots and couldn't accept that they were basically just passengers. They used to joke about having to clean the monkey shit off the seat because they sent chimps up in some of the early flights before they were willing to risk humans.
Your point being...?
I know a few conspiracy theory types that think the whole thing is fake and even features satanic images. It does seem to whiff of fakery to me too TBH
Read that back to yourself and have a ponder.
Read that back to yourself and have a ponder.
To be fair, there were six women and therefore there should have been 600 tampons.
I didn't see a single one.
I don’t think @thols2was trying to make a point specifically other than just mention a fact that some people may find interesting. 🤔
Oh, ok. In that case, you should both read Beyond by Stephen Walker - that'll REALLY knock your socks off as to how early primitive space flight could be.
There's obviously a lot going on with this, and a lot of it is pretty time/circumstance related.
Like, is the actual spaceflight any better or worse than Bill Shatner doing the same thing? No, it's the same. He got some bad reactions, and some <very> bad reactions, and seemed in the end to have some pretty complicated emotions about the whole thing but it was a curiosity story, it was nothing like on this scale.
But of course it's not just about that. In the current "delete women from space history" "row back on decades of progress on equality and women in STEM", etc etc of course you can't separate this stunt from that. And neither can you separate out Bezos's space tourism ****ing with the current trillionaire-ocracy of him and Musk and Thiel, and from the overall american climate.
But none of that stuff's Katy Perry's fault and she seems to be taking a lot of shit for it. And it's hardly the first time people land on a female target to express frustrations about a much wider issue, people are fuming at Perry then buying shit on amazon.
But oh my god if anyone says "first all female spaceflight" one more time Valentina Tereschkova's going to go on a killing spree.
I think like everything else the culture wars come into it because today the culture wars HAVE TO come into everything we talk about. Media outlets owned by billionaires demand it.
However, I think what we should focus on is that this really is a 'Let them eat cake moment' for the 21st century.
Yes, it's possibly more obvious because it's women so the vitriol is dialed up a notch (not just towards the women involved but towards each other, regardless of what side you're on) but I think the really really crucial point that none of us should lose track of is that the world is burning, we are ALL getting poorer each year, and it is all Jeff Bezos and his billionaire chums' fault.
I really really hope we can at least all come together and agree that Jeff Bezos is a **** and every year he steals a little bit more of our collective wealth and gives us circuses to distract us from this inevitable fact.
But none of that stuff's Katy Perry's fault and she seems to be taking a lot of shit for it.
Fair point, but I think a her participation in the whole thing gives her a potion of culpability perhaps (at least an equal measure with rest of the "crew"). Katy does seem notably lacking in wider awareness though, and perhaps needs someone advising her about the public perception or related social issues that might end up damaging her own brand when considering which gigs to take...
More generally anyone taking a ride on Jeff's dick rocket needs to consider that it's a Billionaire's vanity/propaganda project, involvement does nobody any favours (IMO). you can't really 'Space wash' Bezos or the things his wealth is built on (same goes for the new oligarchy really).
Basically if you don't want people to think you're a bit of a vapid moron, don't accept a ride on the cock rocket...
But of course it's not just about that. In the current "delete women from space history" "row back on decades of progress on equality and women in STEM", etc etc of course you can't separate this stunt from that. And neither can you separate out Bezos's space tourism ****ing with the current trillionaire-ocracy of him and Musk and Thiel, and from the overall american climate.
But none of that stuff's Katy Perry's fault and she seems to be taking a lot of shit for it.
This is what I'm bristling about. In column A we have "privileged white lass riding a jolly into space for 11 minutes," in column B we have "privileged white lass strapping a missile to her back for 11 minutes."
I've seen this shit first-hand. Stepping through the door into a spacecraft takes a degree of bravery. It's utterly nuts. If I were Katy Perry I'd be kissing the tarmac when I got back as well.
Basically if you don't want people to think you're a bit of a vapid moron, don't accept a ride on the cock rocket...
I'd take it in a heartbeat. Does that make me a bit of a vapid moron?
I can't think of a more astonishing experience. I've thrown myself out of aeroplanes, piloted a helicopter, driven an Ariel Atom round a racetrack...
Well, people might think I'm a vapid moron. But WGAF what they think.🤷♂️ I'm out having experiences whilst they're living it large watching Tottenham vs Arsenal.
The sending of these (celeb) women into space so they can inspire and be role models for young girls is rather at odds to all the long serving, successful female NASA employees being fired/bios being removed from their website ‘because DEI’
Now that I couldn’t agree with more! The current administration’s desire to remove any reference to the achievements of women and people of colour in science and technology is utterly disgraceful and abhorrent.
I can't think of a more astonishing experience. I've thrown myself out of aeroplanes, piloted a helicopter, driven an Ariel Atom round a racetrack...
Apart from throwing myself out of an airplane, and that I’d only do under the most extreme circumstances, I really envy you for having the chance to do the others. Especially the Atom - it wasn’t the insane V8 version, was it?
But anyway, given the opportunity for a free ride on a rocket to that sort of altitude, I’d be there in a heartbeat!
I can't think of a more astonishing experience.
I don't know if there's been much criticism of it for not being enough of an experience - it's more that, from the 4th post on the topic...
Im not saying I wouldn’t fancy a trip to space, I’m saying the whole thing looked like a very poorly executed PR stunt with elements of it undermining all of its credibility.
I'd love to go into space, even if it's just recreating Shepherd's first flight. But if Bezos called me today and made the offer, I'd tell him GFY.
I'd take it in a heartbeat. Does that make me a bit of a vapid moron?
It would make you a vapid moron if you were genuinely unaware of what Bezos and friends are doing right now. Or it would make you an arsehole if you were.
You can do whatever you want. What you can't do is dictate how people should feel about your choice.