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...except dealing with dangerous driving. Re run that and you can add large pile up including two cars and an artic minimum.
From what I can tell the OP still hasn't contacted the police. Those 4 or 5 days are surely going to make it much less likely the haulage firm still has dashcam footage.
I agree pretty much with maxtorque.
I ride a motorbike (and I know quite a few on this forum do also) and I'm always on the lookout for developing situations in an attempt to avoid them completely. An argument between a bike and car/van/truck only has one winner.
I also employ other quite useful rules, for example:
* Assume that I am invisible.
* Everyone else is a nutter.
From what I can tell the OP still hasn’t contacted the police. Those 4 or 5 days are surely going to make it much less likely the haulage firm still has dashcam footage.
Yep, OP is suspiciously quiet.
Bit disappointing. Hope none of us run into this Mini driver while out on our pushbikes.
I think the answer to this lies in "reflective practice" something I like to do after any near miss. " what went wrong" " how could it have been avoided" " what actions that I did contributed to the incident" " What could I have done differently to avoid the incident"
Doing this has changed the way I cycle.
As for accelerating out of an near miss. I simply do not buy this at all. You may reduce your chance of a crash but higher speeds mean the severity of any crash would be higher.
Its my default to simply get out of the way by slowing and moving left.
One example from years ago riding my motorbike on a busy motorway. I am in the outside lane following a car that is overtaking slowly at about 70 mph. I have left my 2 second gap. A car comes up behind me fast. Tailgates me. I could have moved closer to the car in front to be ready to accelerate away when the road is clear. Instead I slowed and moved into the middle lane. the car that had been tailgateing me then accelerated right up behind the car that had been in front of me. Congestion ahead, the car in front braked, the car that had been behind me hit the car that had been in front of me. Slowing and moving left meant I was not caught between them.
The reason I did what I did? an earlier near miss in a similar situation had led to me deciding that this was the best course of action
From what I can tell the OP still hasn’t contacted the police
perhaps he's worried that the other driver may also have footage :-\
I could have moved closer to the car in front to be ready to accelerate away when the road is clear
As in "I'm being tailgated dangerously so must do the same to the car in front - what could possibly go wrong" ? I'd hope that'd never even cross the mind of any driver
The op has let the thread take its course. Love how I've become a bit to blame, maybe even a lot to blame in some eyes.
Just a quick question, if I'm doing 70 mph which I was and there is plenty of room to pull out how am I possibly tp blame, I fully appreciate not everyone sticks to the limit but mini man was plenty back but took proper umbridge to my manoeuvre which I'll clearly admit must have slowed him. The finger probably sent him in to rage mode and it obviously wasnt ideal, but **** him I ain't being bullied out of the way by a speeding dickhead.
As previously stated the footage cant be used as the number plate is unreadable, the derbyshire police website clearly states this. Relative (inspector) still to view it so we'll see what he has to say.
Been up the a38 in the van today and you'll all be glad to know no incidents but that's probably because I ragged it everywhere.
As you were.
"Just a quick question, if I’m doing 70 mph which I was and there is plenty of room to pull out how am I possibly to blame"
you use the phrase "plenty of room"
But then say
"I fully appreciate not everyone sticks to the limit but mini man was plenty back but took proper umbridge to my manoeuvre which I’ll clearly admit must have slowed him."
ie you do admit that you "slowed him"
Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Now, unless you post the full footage from front and rear camera's, we (the thread readers) have no evidence on which to decide the truth of the matter. What ever you did, whatever the truth, the fact is, it pissed off the mini driver.
Finally:
"The finger probably sent him in to rage mode and it obviously wasnt ideal, but * him I ain’t being bullied out of the way by a speeding dickhead."
Unfortunately this ^^^ is the really dangerous bit. Basically, two drivers came into conflict, for what ever reason, but neither drivers would back down. The result, luckily in the this case, was just two idiots trying to intimidate each other, and luckily that was that.
Next time, you (and the mini driver) might not be so lucky.
Don't misunderstand me, the mini driver is clearly a total * but, if you read the judges summary in the road rage crash case i posted earlier in the thread it says:
‘You didn’t start this but whatever provocation there may be I regard as slight. You reacted to Eaton’s driving and thereafter you fully participated in a road rage incident.’
ie, it apportions blame to both drivers, regardless of who "started it", simply because neither would back down. That, really is the lesson here imo.
we (the thread readers) have no evidence on which to decide the truth of the matter.
Hasn't stopped you pontificating thus far. 😉
Hasn’t stopped you pontificating thus far
Are you new here? This is what we all do? Thats the whole point of the forum.
you use the phrase “plenty of room”
But then say
“I fully appreciate not everyone sticks to the limit but mini man was plenty back but took proper umbridge to my manoeuvre which I’ll clearly admit must have slowed him.”
ie you do admit that you “slowed him”
Those two statements are mutually exclusive.
It quite possible to drive along at 70, *pull out safely* and take a few seconds to complete an overtake.
If the traffic behind is going significantly faster - speeding - they may catch you. When they catch you, they have to slow down. That’s not because the pulling out was unsafe, it’s because they were speeding.
I have a strategy for this, as long as when I pull out I have pulled out in advance so that the speeding car from behind is within about three braking distances then its fair that I have made them slow when the eventually catch up to me. Otherwise you would never pull out. Speeders have to take responsibility too.
it’s because they were speeding.
Bullseye.
Sticking a finger up is unnecessary. Making them slow down is just the job.
Then move over when you see if it is safe to do so, not when bullied by a smalldick in a tiny car
Stay classy; it infuriates those who aren't
ie, it apportions blame to both drivers, regardless of who “started it”, simply because neither would back down. That, really is the lesson here imo.
Remind you of anyone? Anything? Any(w)here? People in metal boxes / behind keyboards, same self-righteous, argumentative, ego-driven BS.
😂
