[Closed] So my daughter is freaking me out a bit, any advice please.

They're here......

Here starts a long thread where people say if you believe in ghosts your an idiot.

She's using her imagination IMO.

Burial site?

Scotroutes beat me to it!

The ghost of Jimmy Savile?

Just ask her what her friend's name is. Kids frequently have imaginary friends who they'll have long, involved conversations with, it's a natural part of developing an imagination.
Don't be too surprised if she tells you off for nearly sitting on her friend one day.

Your house is infested with Brownies. Call Rentokill.

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your an idiot

Eye ronny.

Just make sure the name of the friend isn't the name of the OAP who used to live there.

If you were me I'd do this....wind the missus up. Get me? 😉

Has she recently spent time with with a mischievous relative who might have put her up to it?

Even the most inteligent brains, the fastest computers, CT scans and MRI scans have all failed to understansd what goes on in a womans mind.

HISTORY PROVES IT CORRECT

the curtains are closed she stands and looks at the top of them and mumbles/chats

Pencil bleat.

[quote=CaptainFlashheart ]your an idiot
Eye ronny.

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the curtains are closed she stands and looks at the top of them and mumbles/chats

The GFs old dog used to watch something cross the room. Completely fixated, sometimes with her back up. Really bizarre.

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Yup. Our 2 year old boy does similar. We'll be sitting at the kitchen table having breakfast or dinner or tea and totally unprompted he'll turn to the window and watch for a bit then say either "hello" or "bye" whilst waving.

It really freaks us out. Our plan is to do nothing (he's not at the stage yet where he can tell us who he's talking to) and hope it passes.

Exploration/learning?

The flying Ox. You do realise it can see the goosebumps on your skin. He knows that you know.

Spirit(s) or ghost(s) in the house as kids can see them if kids are below 5 yr old. Check history or location of house or sometimes it may just be passing "visitor(s)". Once they reach certain age they will not be able to see them anymore.

If kid gets nightmare or have to cry to sleep then you might have troublesome "visitor(s)" lurking around.

Other than that you might be house poisoned ... fungus carpet?

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I'd get her sectioned if I were you mate.. she sounds like a right ****ing nutcase

My eldest daughter had what we called night frights for years. she even drew a picture of the man in a long black coat and cowboy hat and boots. proper spine tingle stuff when in the room and she looks straight through me and says hes in the corner with genuine fear in her eyes.It only stoped when i let the dog sleep at the foot her bed. had a few nights with the dog growling and not had a problem since. dog died 3 years ago when daughter was 13 but the night frights never returned. SO get her a dog 🙂

fallsoffalot - Member

had a few nights with the dog growling and not had a problem since.

Yes, the dog see them too as the dog is protecting your daughter. Dog does not growl for no reasons.

dog died 3 years ago when daughter was 13 but the night frights never returned. SO get her a dog

This is because she cannot sense them anymore or simply the "visitor(s)" left for good ...

Also kids would talk to themselves if they are playing with their own toys but not without.

Well if he does come back he will get a shock .we have a 10 stone great dane now 😀

Blimey. The kid's TWO! They live in their own world, let them enjoy it!

Nothing to be concerned about, and as for hoping it passes.. What? You're worried they don't fit your idea of 'normal'?

PS it is normal anyway.

TIL: Molgrips talks to curtains.

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I talk to imaginary people a lot. Especially on bike rides.

I talk to imaginary people a lot. Especially on [s]bike rides.[/s] here.

So.. STW is actually my personal blog?

Nothing to be concerned about, and as for hoping it passes.. What? You're worried they don't fit your idea of 'normal'?

Nob.

I am rather curious if anyone lives in a house where the previous occupant(s) was murdered, committed suicide or died of unnatural causes.

Experience anything unusual?

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fallsoffalot - Member

Well if he does come back he will get a shock .we have a 10 stone great dane now

Yes, that should work fine.

Also if the dog howls (not the type of dog howl signaling other dog) for no reason then there might be something lurking around as well.

Dog does not growl for no reasons.

Ours* does, although he's an ex prison dog, and we suspect ex as he was rather too good with the drugs and they've not worn off. The house is built on an old monastery and they've changed the policy of re-interning the bodies unearthed when digging underneath for utilities to the local church instead they're just re covered once the cable/pipe's laid. So I had corpses outside my window for a month or so last summer!

So either your daughters on prison grade amateur pharmaceuticals, or Chewkw is.

*my parents

When I was a kid I apparently used to talk and shout at one corner of the rarely used dining room, my parents say my older sisters did the same too. We all 'grew out of it' When my sister moved out she got a dog and brought him around for the first time, were he barked and snarled at the same corner. I've long moved out now and My dogs do the same when we visit and my new puppy is petrified to go in the room he just stares at the corner and shivers. I took my nephew to my parents (wife's side never been there before) the dining room door was shut and he said unprompted 'why is there knocking in that room' I opened the door and he said 'hello' to what he described as an old lady on a wheel machine in the corner of the room my Dad asked him if he meant a wheel chair and he said it was a wheel infront of her why can't we see it. I don't believe in ghosts but it does make me get goosebumps thinking about it as I can't rationalise it or make a logical explanation.

My dog barks at his own farts.
They are more ghastly than ghostly but it's a slightly less ludicrous (and true in his case) explanation.

do people still have curtains?
get with the 21st century already.

thisisnotaspoon - Member

The house is built on an old monastery ...

Your reasoning is the dog is high on drugs coz it's an ex-prison dog ...

Try to observe if it howls again and note the time and place.

King-ocelot - Member

I don't believe in ghosts but it does make me get goosebumps thinking about it as I can't rationalise it or make a logical explanation.

You cannot rationalise because you have no such concept hence you cannot logically explain the situation. Yes, the old lady is there but harmless as she has not disturbed anyone.

The only understanding you have is the corner of the room that is unexplained.

In our old cafe, my wife used to see food fling itself off the shelves, oven switch itself on, doors that were held shut but weren't locked.

She said she could see a little girl run past the counter sometimes as she was cashing up. The woman in the flat above said she often saw a young girl in the corner of her room.

My son (4) used to say he saw a man in his room with a hurted head holding a helmet. About 4 years before a motorcyclist died going between two cars under the railway bridge at the end of the road and his head was squashed

So I'd say ghost 🙂

Definitely ghosts. Textbook.

When I was a kid I apparently used to talk and shout at one corner of the rarely used dining room, my parents say my older sisters did the same too. We all 'grew out of it' When my sister moved out she got a dog and brought him around for the first time, were he barked and snarled at the same corner. I've long moved out now and My dogs do the same when we visit and my new puppy is petrified to go in the room he just stares at the corner and shivers. I took my nephew to my parents (wife's side never been there before) the dining room door was shut and he said unprompted 'why is there knocking in that room' I opened the door and he said 'hello' to what he described as an old lady on a wheel machine in the corner of the room my Dad asked him if he meant a wheel chair and he said it was a wheel infront of her why can't we see it. I don't believe in ghosts but it does make me get goosebumps thinking about it as I can't rationalise it or make a logical explanation.

To add to my earlier post, my parents neighbour said the previous occupant had died in the house but they don't know which room, she had become too frail to go upstairs and lived downstairs. I get goosebumps thinking about it now...

jambourgie - Member

Definitely ghosts. Textbook.

King-ocelot - Member

To add to my earlier post, my parents neighbour said the previous occupant had died in the house but they don't know which room, she had become too frail to go upstairs and lived downstairs. I get goosebumps thinking about it now...

There the correlation. Well, she will look after the house and perhaps look after the occupants.

Try this. Ask her to communicate with you in your dream if she has something to say.

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Imo it's perfectly normal behaviour for a child of that age. As others have said above,it's tied in with development of imagination etc.

We all have an inner dialogue don't we? We are just conditioned from a young age to internalize those dialogues due to social constructs etc..

I would double check the cupboards etc for The Babadook, just to be on the safe side!

mekkenolly - Member

Imo it's perfectly normal behaviour for a child of that age.

Only if they are playing with toys otherwise kids would be bored stiff if they talk to curtain or wall. They only imagine when they are playing or just finished playing with toys or friends but certainly not out of the blue. 😮

Try this. Ask her to communicate with you in your dream if she has something to say.

Asked her... Just took a very brief few seconds nap. She said I need another road bike in order to restore balance/energy in the afterlife. Or something 🙂

King-ocelot - Member
Asked her... Just took a very brief few seconds nap. She said I need another road bike in order to restore balance/energy in the afterlife. Or something

Seriously. Try ask her nicely. Nope, not your few seconds nap I am afraid. 😆

Probably when you least expected one night when you are in deep sleep that is the time she communicate with you, that is if she thinks she wants to.

Ghosts don't exist. It's all bollocks and I can't believe any right-minded adult could think differently.

Kids... Let them imagine what they want...

johndoh - Member

Ghosts don't exist. It's all bollocks and I can't believe any right-minded adult could think differently.

Kids... Let them imagine what they want...

"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Now argue against that logic to see how logical or rational you are.

Anything less and you are pseudo rational.

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If it helps crankbrat aged 3 1/2 does something similar particularly in our bathroom where he goes into a trance and stares at one corner of the ceiling . He will tend to ignore anything said by way of concern or general inquiry but is easily brought out by specific conversation at 3 1/2 he can explain that his trance is him thinking about filling the bath till it goes as high as the ceiling all the water running under the door down the stairs and filling up to the letter box then out into the street. He very often has conversations or songs for himself and will either blank attempts to join in or simply say "I was talking to myself" quite angrily.
So in my sample of one no ghosts just imagination thought processes and learning to think creatively.

*may* be the truth. There is no 'yes' and 'no'.

But ghosts do not exist. If they did, after 600 million years of animal existence , we'd be over-run by now with the ****ers.

There's more chance of contacting the other side than making sense of chewkw's posts

My younger cousin (about four at the time) wanted to organise a birthday party for Ray when he comes over at the weekend. His parents called mine asking if it was my dads (Ray) birthday. Turns out he meant Ray from the Ghostbusters who was a regular in their house. He grew out of it.

However, I'd suggest your house is defo haunted 😉

But ghosts do not exist. If they did, after 600 million years of animal existence , we'd be over-run by now with the ****.

Rookie mistake. Not [i]everyone[/i] becomes a ghost; only those who died an orrible death. And well-known historical figures.

Op: when checking above the curtains for ghosts, also run a check for the following:

[*]Ghouls[/*]
[*]Specters[/*]
[*]Apparitions[/*]
[*]Wraiths[/*]
[*]Phantoms[/*]
[*]Those eyeball things out of DOOM[/*]

crankboy - Member

He very often has conversations or songs for himself and will either blank attempts to join in or simply say "I was talking to myself" quite angrily.

He is talking to himself as he said. 🙄

johndoh - Member

*may* be the truth. There is no 'yes' and 'no'.

But ghosts do not exist. If they did, after 600 million years of animal existence , we'd be over-run by now with the ****.

That is not a logical nor rational answer. You are being emotional there. 😯

Spin - Member

There's more chance of contacting the other side than making sense of chewkw's posts

How does the probability work? Chance = luck? That's illogical. See! Told you! 😆

jambourgie - Member
Rookie mistake. Not everyone becomes a ghost; only those who died an orrible death. And well-known historical figures.

This I cannot explain coz there are many type of ghosts and I do not know the conditions that lead them to remain ...

Damn! This thread is haunted! 🙄

I'm with chewkw on this

Whyyy youuu!

Mods! Help! Help!

Some ghosts just hacked this thread/page!

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If you eliminate the impossible etc

You suggest chewkw that there's no rational argument against that but there is.

Say you have 3 explanations for a phenomenon, a,b and c. a and b turn out to be impossible so it must be c however improbable it might seem.

That only holds if your initial set of 3 explanations was exhaustive. What if there was d,e and f which never even ocurred to you?

chewkw - Member

Only if they are playing with toys otherwise kids would be bored stiff if they talk to curtain or wall. They only imagine when they are playing or just finished playing with toys or friends but certainly not out of the blue.

Sorry Chekw, would disagree with that statement. For a child at two years old their grasp of what is reality and fantasy is still very fragile, and as such one commonly spills into the other.

 

It's right here Ray, it's looking at me...

It's [i]probably[/i] Soren Lorensen

But if not you're in big trouble

Good luck 🙂

Spin - Member
That only holds if your initial set of 3 explanations was exhaustive. What if there was d,e and f which never even ocurred to you?

[u]Now you are being emotional aren't you?[/u] 🙄

mekkenolly - Member

Sorry Chekw, would disagree with that statement. For a child at two years old their grasp of what is reality and fantasy is still very fragile, and as such one commonly spills into the other.

[u]Hence, they cannot differentiate between what they see so assume it is as it is.[/u]

stevestunts - Member

It's right here Ray, it's looking at me...

Only if they are playing with toys otherwise kids would be bored stiff if they talk to curtain or wall. They only imagine when they are playing or just finished playing with toys or friends but certainly not out of the blue.

So either your daughters on prison grade amateur pharmaceuticals, or Chewkw is.

Tough one that. I'm really torn 50/50.

It's the girl isn't it?

What's gone wrong with this thread? Looks all weird. Is it just me, or is it... ghosts?

[ ] CountZero - Member
I can happily sit staring at nothing for extended periods of time, doing nothing, letting my imagination have full reign.
I have a very vivid imagination... [ ]

I have not come across kids under 5 i.e. not baby or infant, that stare at the curtain talking to themselves.

Can you actually remember the things you did before you were 5?

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[ ] jambourgie - Member

What's gone wrong with this thread? Looks all weird. Is it just me, or is it... ghosts? [ ]

The logic is that someone is emotional hence hacked the page. 😆

[ ] timidwheeler - Member

Tough one that. I'm really torn 50/50.

It's the girl isn't it? [ ]

That's illogical by assuming the little girl is on some sort of drugs and even more emotional by making up some sort of possibility.

You call yourself a man of science? You cannot even handle the logic of science without being emotional or do you think it is logical to be emotional? hhhmmmm ... 😆

Not really following you Chekw. just wanted to reassure the op that his child's behaviour was not particularly unusual or anything to be alarmed at. Your suggesting that it is?

"Only if they are playing with toys otherwise kids would be bored stiff if they talk to curtain or wall. They only imagine when they are playing or just finished playing with toys or friends but certainly not out of the blue"

Sorry, but I strongly disagree with that. Infants' brains are awash with trillions of connection between neurons(2/3 times as many as the adult brain)The ones that stay are strengthened by repetition(learning etc)They simply don't have the experience or capability to make a distinction between what is or isn't play at that age.

" mekkenolly - Member

Not really following you Chekw. just wanted to reassure the op that his child's behaviour was not particularly unusual or anything to be alarmed at. Your suggesting that it is?"

What I am saying is the child is perfectly normal and seeing things at that age is normal too. The child is Not crazy just because s/he sees something.

"Sorry, but I strongly disagree with that. Infants' brains are awash with trillions of connection between neurons(2/3 times as many as the adult brain)The ones that stay are strengthened by repetition(learning etc)They simply don't have the experience or capability to make a distinction between what is or isn't play at that age."

But I doubt they would lie at that age, imagining things yes and seeing things also yes ... like you say their neurons are more than adults.

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She seems ok

I think that's the key point. It doesn't much matter whether there is a ghost there, whether you are communicating with her from a four-dimensional space that you will enter as a result of travelling through a wormhole in the future, or whether she's just talking to herself because she's two, as long as she seems OK. But I'd call a priest as soon as she doesn't.

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My nephew had an imaginary friend called Uncle Gary. He would talk to him for hours, and apparently Uncle Gary loved to take him to bed at night.

Ooh, this just came up in "Reflections on the dawn of consciousness" which I'm reading at the mo' (it's a follow up to "The origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind"). It's just an "imaginary friend" as we call it now, or more accurately (if you believe Jaynes) a throwback to bicameralism which is totally normal in a preconscious child that has developed language skills - as she develops true introspective consciousness the voice will simply fade.

Chekew
"He is talking to himself as he said. "
no shit Sherlock!

Ghosts 😆

Where are all the cavemen, roman, viking etc ghosts?

Still, it's another good marker of the level of proof some people require for their opinions.

crankboy - Member

Chekew
"He is talking to himself as he said. "
no shit Sherlock!

Do you have any alternative explanation beyond that is known Mr Watson old boy? 🙄

Lifer - Member

Ghosts

Where are all the cavemen, roman, viking etc ghosts?

Some there, some moved on but that is my view.

Still, it's another good marker of the level of proof some people require for their opinions.

Yes, there need to be proof but sometimes events happen in front of the person yet the person cannot understand them.

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Where are all the cavemen, roman, viking etc ghosts?

In caves, roman villas and viking longhouses?

Can't explain it so...ghosts.

No thanks.

I do enjoy ghost stories though. Some stuff on /r/nosleep is properly heckles up time.

Where are all the cavemen, roman, viking etc ghosts?

On Stane Street, the old Roman Road running from London down to Chichester, at night, you can hear the footsteps of the ghosts of the Roman legionairres as they partol up and down.

Well, they say you can - all i've ever heard is the sound of me panting as i try and do that section through Leatherhead and boxhill as fast as possible to avoid the ghosts.

Your reasoning is the dog is high on drugs coz it's an ex-prison dog ...

Try to observe if it howls again and note the time and place.

No, it's definately because he's fallen off his trolley, he doesn't even respond to his own name.

He's also scared by/barks at:

leaves
anything that floats
his own wind

molgrips - Member
In caves, roman villas and viking longhouses?

I don't know but those are possible assumptions.

Lifer - Member

Can't explain it so...ghosts.

No thanks.

I do enjoy ghost stories though. Some stuff on /r/nosleep is properly heckles up time.

Not all events are due to ghosts coz that's simply illogical. The events or the scenarios as described on this thread I would say is possible.

theotherjonv - Member
On Stane Street, the old Roman Road running from London down to Chichester, at night, you can hear the footsteps of the ghosts of the Roman legionairres as they partol up and down.

That's interesting because most people will not hear them.

thisisnotaspoon - Member

No, it's definately because he's fallen off his trolley, he doesn't even respond to his own name.

He's also scared by/barks at:

leaves
anything that floats
his own wind

Perhaps that's the character or perhaps the dog is old as some dogs can be considered old at certain age for that particular breed etc ... you just need to observe.

My kids do this kind of thing and we live in a new build house. It's just kids, trust me - not ghosts.