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I'll admit, when we bought out house (2014), we planned for a possible 6.5% rate, but truthfully didn't believe it would happen. Well, next year we'll be mortgaging in February and it's looking like that planning will have to be put into effect. We're looking at an increase of £5-£7k dependent on the base rate and the loan to value rate at that time.
I have some savings as a buffer if required, but it shouldn't come to that unless there's some unforeseen circumstances. For while at least, it looks like overpayments will be a thing of the past. I really feel for anyone that's trying to buy right now or is facing the heavy end of the hammer after their first 2 years of homeownership.
Looks like the banks will be laughing again. Rain or shine, they never seem to lose.
How're y'all set?
We moved in August 2018 and made the decision at the time that rates would go up at some point in the future so locked in for 10 years at 2.49%. Remaining balance in 5 years should be a four figure sum.
It would be nice to see interests rates at a decent level. My savings are slowly being eroded.
We fixed for 5 years last September *just* before it all kicked off. Paying £200 a month more than we were just because rates had started to rise slightly but that, coupled with energy costs increasing and general inflation is leaving us having to find about £600 a month more than last summer but we're just about managing. Fortunately, we have a relatively low LTV so if the shit really hit the fan, we could downsize. I am hoping to be in a position to pay off the remainder of the mortgage in full when we come out of this deal – we'll see.
Perfect storm at the moment. Those who talk about the 15% at the tail end of the 80s do not mention that house prices were 4x average wage. It's now 11, down south.
Saying that I renewed last year at 1.5% as I sort of knew this was coming and told my broker so. My aim is to pay off as much as I can in the next 4 years... hopefully.
Hmmm, unless I have missed something drastic I think we are OK.
We have 2 mortgages on our house - basically about the same amount left on both of them.
One is 0.95% above the base rate, the other is fixed until 2030 - I lucked out & fixed for 10 years in 2020 - that's at just under 2.5%.
The non-fixed on only goes up by about £5 every time there's an interest rate tweak, so rates would have to be stratospheric before it becomes an issue.
When we bought this house, we worked out what we could afford based on one of us being out of work. Even then, we kept it pretty sensible. House prices where we are, are fairly sensible too.
At the time it seemed a bit boring and I do sometimes wish I had a slightly riskier attitude to money, but currently feeling quite happy about our choices. Apart from the mortgage, we have no debt - both cars are owned by us & paid off etc.
We are currently planning a modest extension, which will also incorporate re-decorating the entire hall, stairs & landing (including new staircase, doors etc. not just a lick of paint). We'll need to re-mortgage to do that, but I am not sure what that means & whether we will proceed with it once we have a cost & speak to the bank about how much it will cost.
While I have sympathy for most people's circumstances, I do know some people who have clearly thrown caution to the wind and bought expensive properties with no calculation of what a change in circumstances will mean. I struggle to feel too much sympathy for them.
Should have fixed last year when I was told to. Fairly small mortgage so it's gone from £650-750ish, but offset by my childcare bills dropping to less than half and moving jobs for a step up the ladder and associated bump.
Our previous rate ended around Sept/Oct last year when it was just all kicking off. Managed to fix at 3.3% for 7 years which I initially regretted, thinking I should have taken the 3% for 5 years.
I've just panic fixed for 2years. Dreading the next 48months, the last 48 have been shite but now may lose my home on top of some crap family issues and a divorce. Divorce to be settled and the market will decide on whether I can remain in my home which has been an absolute shelter for me mentally in recent times.
Absolutely pissed off with it all. Luckily I have a mountain bike to reign in the tough times...
Currently bidding as a FTB to move to NI after x years away. Since last week, one of our offers on a house keeps getting countered. Now sitting +17k above the original on a 3-bed semi. The other we are bidding on has gone up +13k. Starting to hit the limit of stopping. A lot of people moving across it seems.
All talk of the market slowing down, but it feels like madness at the moment. Not too worried about interest rates as a hike is in our affordability and everyone else will somewhat be subject to it. It's more actually winning a bid at the moment that's hard for us 🤷♂️
While I have sympathy for most people’s circumstances, I do know some people who have clearly thrown caution to the wind and bought expensive properties with no calculation of what a change in circumstances will mean. I struggle to feel too much sympathy for them.
Well not everybody is financially literate. They just want somewhere secure to bring up their families and rightly or wrongly trust that the financial system wouldn’t recklessly lend them more than they can afford to pay back.
When we got a mortgage, we were paying a fair amount of interest back in the 90's and had factored into the 'affordability' if it would hit 12%.
We've been mortgage free for a few years, finished ours before we were 50. Not a large mortgage by any means, and we're still in the original house.
^ the banks will have checked their ability to pay back at 6% rates anyway, so they'll be able to afford the mortgage (assuming they didn't lie), just have to tighten their belts elsewhere. A lot of folks are in the position where they can lengthen their mortgages as they remortgage to reduce the payments down a bit, and hope the debt inflates away.
I'm part of the 70% of the country who doesn't have a mortgage, which lends weight to the argument that interest rates are a fairly blunt tool (as they only really affect 30% of us)
While I have sympathy for most people’s circumstances, I do know some people who have clearly thrown caution to the wind and bought expensive properties with no calculation of what a change in circumstances will mean. I struggle to feel too much sympathy for them.
See my comment on the other thread. There is no reason why the UK mortgage market should be so sensitive to fluctuations in interest rates and markets. Expecting people to be able to predict the future and weigh up all the economic movements and risks is ridiculous. You're blaming people for not being able to predict the future.
(as they only really affect 30% of us)
They’ll affect renters too unless an unusually generous landlord doesn’t pass on the increase
^ the banks will have checked their ability to pay back at 6% rates anyway, so they’ll be able to afford the mortgage (assuming they didn’t lie),
Not necessarily. Banks weren’t obliged to run the same stress test on loans fixed for over 5 years. My previous fixed term ran for 61 months.
we're 1 year into a 5 year fixed on a BIIIG mortgage (big house in Hove.. blended family = too many kids!!).. fixed at 1.19 ish %...
Would be another few K on our mortgage per month at today's rate.. eek~! Should have fixed for 10 years!!!
DrP
In the shit and dreading what is still to come. Paying 2.25% over BofE with no possibility of remortgaging. My payments have gone from £330 to just shy of £1k. I currently have some equity, but almost certainly can't actually afford to downsize.
With only 4 years to go I am currently riding it out on a variable. I am hoping things will be lower in 18-24months (euro zone here). Looked a fixing but the savings would be swallowed up in fees etc so decided to sit it out. If I am wrong and rates don't come down in next year or so then I would only have 2years left so should be OK. To be honest the gas/electricity rises have hit me harder. My sister, in London, on the other hand....oooff
Got two years left of a five year fix at 1.7%
Only problem is we want to move and borrow more, which is far more expensive.
robola
Well not everybody is financially literate. They just want somewhere secure to bring up their families
The people I was specifically thinking of when I wrote this are young couples, no 'families' to bring up other than themselves, working in degree level jobs where a strong grasp of maths & risk assessment is required.
As I said - I do have sympathy for most people who are finding themselves in a tight spot now, but there are others who knew full well what they were doing & decided to proceed anyway.
dazh
Expecting people to be able to predict the future and weigh up all the economic movements and risks is ridiculous. You’re blaming people for not being able to predict the future.
Predict the future - erm, not really.
I would expect people making such a large financial investment and potentially loading themselves up with a massive financial burden for the next 25/30 years to do some due diligence on whether the can actually afford it should the situation change.
We have gone through a long period of the lowest interest rates in history. It doesn't take Mystic Meg to foresee that at some point those rates are going to go up. They couldn't go down any further, so the only option would be up at some point - maybe tomorrow, maybe in 30 years.
I am not a financial whizz, but had the foresight 12 years ago when we bought this house to do it well within our means.
I know there are some people who need to spend more of their outgoings on their mortgage than I have had to, just to put a roof over their head. These are not the people I was referring to.
I was referring to the people who looked at the low interest rates & decided it would be a good idea to max out their spending power to buy a massive house way beyond their needs, which has given them no headroom now things have inevitably changed. They basically loaded the dice on interest rates not going up.
I’m part of the 70% of the country who doesn’t have a mortgage, which lends weight to the argument that interest rates are a fairly blunt tool (as they only really affect 30% of us)
Only around 28% of occupants are debt-free
They’ll affect renters too unless an unusually generous landlord doesn’t pass on the increase
^^ You have to also factor in this – and it's these unfortunate people that are likely to struggle the most when landlords start increasing rents to cover their increased costs. Ie, landlord has a 10% increase in costs, they stick up rent by 20% just in case.
I made some mistakes in the early 2000's and my last remortgage was a desperate attempt to save my failing business. Since then I've been bankrupt and made redundant 3 times with the last resulting in a 30% drop in wages that weren't by any stretch of the imagination high in the first place.
we’re 1 year into a 5 year fixed on a BIIIG mortgage (big house in Hove.. blended family = too many kids!!).. fixed at 1.19 ish %…
Would be another few K on our mortgage per month at today’s rate.. eek~! Should have fixed for 10 years!!!
DrP
We also fixed on 5 years and are about three years in. My wife wanted to fix for 10 but I (regrettably) said that was a bad idea. The next couple of years will dictate to what extent I will be blamed for a drop in our disposable income when the fix ends.
They just want somewhere secure to bring up their families and rightly or wrongly trust that the financial system wouldn’t recklessly lend them more than they can afford to pay back.
theres a big difference between can't afford; and expecting monthly payments to never go up.
my prediction - increased term lengths, possibly taking people beyond retirement age
Giving people the options of either work longer; downsize to release equity; or die before paying it off.
At which point its pretty much renting from the bank, but with extra steps.
Mortgages - thankfully mortgage free now. But only ever had a small mortgage (sub 100k).
Interest Rates - our car PCP ends in Sept. We'll be paying off the balloon from savings as it's now a perfect storm of high used car prices (we usually by a two year old vehicle and keep it x3 years) and high interest rates.
Which means paying off the balloon is the best choice and then we plan on putting the money we were spending on finance back into the bank over the next two years and see where things are then.
Would be another few K on our mortgage per month at today’s rate.. eek~!
What really?
A few k more per month!
What did you buy, Eastbourne?
Mine goes up about £1k/mth next month. Not comfortable but riding it out until they drop ( a bit!)
With no financial skill whatsoever, we took out a 10yr fixed in 2021. Nice to win for a change after many years of not reaping the rewards of very low interest rates due to having fixed mortgages.
Guess it all nets out in the end. Have always been cautious so fixed was always the way for me.
Fixed in 2021 for 5 years. Not looking forward to whatever it is in 2026. We'd be ok at 6%. If it's up at 10% then i'd have to do some serious belt tightening! Not like the 90s when the average house was 4 x average salary!
One of the key things people who moan that people who got a big mortgage is that to get any house in the SE big enough to raise a family on even a fairly decent wage will require a big mortgage (unless you get a inheritance). As a case in point - I'm an early millennial, I bought our last house (small 3 bed) in 2012 for 310k, I sold it in 2021 for 500k. The salary for my job in 2012 had barely moved in that time. Apparently our new house has now increased by 125k since 2021 (tho I expect this will be reversed in the next couple of years) - we briefly had to consider moving a few months ago so got it valued.
whilst landlords might try to stick rent up, overall rent pricing is supply/demand based, not cost-based. Some may choose to bail out if there's no way to make it work affordably (no bad thing), which will be exaccerbated by the minimal rent cover requirements on btl mortgages (and you can't lie on those forms, the banks will check local rent rates).
only 30% of homes are owned with a mortgage, the rest are rented in some form or owned outright.
We were mortgage hunting last year when Liz & Kwasi decided to play funtimes with the economy. We are VERY fortunate to have decent income and a bit of equity from our previous home but even then it was rough going. We had an offer accepted on a wonderful house but had to reign in my optimism and withdraw. I don't regret getting a smaller house (less hoovering) but can absolutely sympathise with folk who didn't quite see all of this coming - particularly those coming out of longer fixed deals.
I fixed for full term a few years back I was paying over the odds but now I'm quids in , too many people seem to have mortgaged up to the eye balls expecting the rates to be low for ever
For what it’s worth I didn’t max out 5 years ago when I bought my current house and although the rise when we go onto a new deal will be painful it is manageable.
theres a big difference between can’t afford; and expecting monthly payments to never go up.
Agreed, but an awful lot has happened in the previous five years that may have slightly impacted people’s financial planning. While a lot of people were at home tossing it off on furlough some people completely lost their income and haven’t actually recovered. They may have been planning to reduce their capital during this period of low rates in the knowledge that rates would likely rise.
The lack of empathy from people who got lucky/financial geniuses is heart warming.
Congratulations to everyone who has something fixed for the rest of the decade, or even just for the next few years. You all win. Ours reverts to SVR next year, and I can't see any easy way to escape that right now. Due to illness our household income has dropped a lot since we got our current fixed deal... hunting for a new offer this winter looks like a tough ask.
We also fixed on 5 years and are about three years in. My wife wanted to fix for 10 but I (regrettably) said that was a bad idea. The next couple of years will dictate to what extent I will be blamed for a drop in our disposable income when the fix ends
I can answer that...you will 100% be blamed... 😉
What did you buy, Eastbourne?
ha!!! Nah... Me and the OH bought a place in Hove a year ago, as bringing together her 2 kids and my 2 kids...
It's an expensive place, but as it's a weird set up (kinda like 2 houses merged together) and it's massive and suits our needs, and in terms of £/square foot it's 'good value'. Will see what impact we can have on the LTV when it comes to remortgaging...
DrP
stumpy01
am not a financial whizz, but had the foresight 12 years ago when we bought this house to do it well within our means.
lol so did i, but i failed to also account for my electricity cost tripling, food increasing by 50%, house insurance up 30%, car insurance up 20%, water up X%, council tax up Y% etc all at the same time.
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You’re blaming people for not being able to predict the future.
Not really, you're asking people to take a best guess on a 5-10 year view on their personal affordability. No one has needed Nostradamus-a-like powers so far in the history of people taking loans to buy a property. I doubt they really do now ether.
Been mortgage free for 8 years, but having cashed-out and down-sized the interest on savings until recently have been derisory, the Truss-Kwasi effect on my pension means that’s decreased/flat-lined whilst all other expenses have increased. I still think there’s a few more bumps in the road for the UK economy until we see the return of a sensible government that encourages the right kind of investment that will increase productivity and GDP.
Fixed at 1.03% for 5 years back in March 2022, so hoping that the next 3.5 years lead to things calming down a bit. In the meanwhile hoping to save and/or overpay as much as possible so as to lessen the remortgaging impact when it comes. With the benefit of hindsight it would have been the perfect moment to fix for 10 years, but there we go.
Chucking my details into a mortgage calculator, it looks like a 4.5% mortgage would be adding about £600 a month to our outgoings. On top of this even with our best efforts our mortgage is unlikely to be below 5 figures before the fix expires. Small mercies though as by this point we'll be coming to the end of nursery fees so we'll just spend that money on the mortgage instead!
I'm an early millennial and for basically my entire adult life rates have been low. This is obviously an aberration when looked at over a broader timescale, but when your entire life experience is that mortgages are cheap and houses are expensive you can I think start to see why people have borrowed enough to start coming unstuck when all of a sudden everything starts going up except your salary.
We're moving in the next few weeks. Decided to go ahead with it just after the debacle that was the mini budget. The good news is that we can port our existing mortgage over on the silly low fixed rate we set a while back.
The second part of the mortgage was negotiated at the start of Dec but was only valid for 6 months. We reapplied about 4 weeks ago before rates rose again and got it at a lower rate than Dec. So in summary we chose a crap time to move, but it could be worse.
We are ok at the moment, but borrowed a further 100k to refurbish the house, which is now mostly spent. I've had to do a lot of the remaining work myself to save money (trades are £££ and hard to get them to turn up...)
Could have fixed for 10years at 1.5% fixed for 5 at 1.09% Budgeted worse case was 7% based on historic rates and what was on offer.
Didn't not factor in all other costs going through the roof, just a nominal amount of inflation
Have 12 months before it really hits us, not sure if we can cut back as much as is needed have withheld the final amount of refurb money as a reserve - garden will have to be done by me too and on a budget. May need one or both of us to push for promotion or take on a second job
And.... rates could have gone lower, japan and some Scandinavian countries are examples. I actually thought that might have been a possibility and factored into my decision not to take a 10yr. Stupid boy
How are we doing? Smug and hoping to pay things down asap.
We re-mortgaged nearly two years ago - and fixed at 1.19% for 5 years.
We are also fortunate enough to be able to overpay each month, and for reasons also have 40% of our outstanding mortgage balance in savings. So at present I could do with better interest rates and more stable returns on my S&S ISA's.
In August 2026 when we come off this fixed deal, we hope to only have a year or two of mortgage to go - if our ISA's had done better we would be looking at paying everything off. I hope we may be able to just take a loan out, not a mortgage in 2026.
got 3yrs left on a 5yr deal at 1.9% - aim is to pay off the 15 year term full balance in those 3yrs - ball cocks to paying silly high interest rates. Only reason houses are so expensive is due to years of super low interest rates and mega cheap borrowing. Yet the banks cant let the prices crash now they are less afordable can they?
Sister and brother on fixed deals at the moment, but unless it comes down, not looking good in 3-5 years. Both have bought massive houses when there was low rates with 1/2 kids. Brother has business mortgage too - he's a dentist and he and business partner 'own' the business. Stress !
We're fixed at around 2.69ish until March-25, however we still owe the best part of £200k, i'm 50 so we can't stretch the terms indefinitely and have a bit of other debt so know we're probably not going to be eligible for the very best rates.
On the plus side, the house is worth in excess of £600k - so really good LTV numbers, and we've been overpaying by £100 a month since we fixed in March 2020 so that'll absorb a little of the blow.
We're aware we are going to get screwed on this - not helped by the fact i'm potentially changing jobs in the next 6-8 months which might involve a small pay cut.
Ultimate get out of jail card is to sell up and downsize, getting rid of the mortgage completely/reducing it to a minimal level.
Currently 7 year fixed at 1.something until 2025ish iirc.
Owe around 100k, went into negative equity and a drop in income around 2008 paid 4.99 % for forever whilst all around were getting low rates for years.
So I’ve not been bitten yet this time around but who knows in 2 years?
5yr fixed until july next year. until the last couple of weeks looked like we might get away with it and hit the downward trend.
Sister and brother on fixed deals at the moment, but unless it comes down, not looking good in 3-5 years. Both have bought massive houses when there was low rates with 1/2 kids. Brother has business mortgage too – he’s a dentist and he and business partner ‘own’ the business. Stress !
Maybe it is me living in the rarefied middle-class air of Dunblane, but it seems there are a reasonable number of people who have done the 'buy a big house based on cheap mortgage'...
I was listening to the radio on the way in - discussing help for mortgage payers...!? Like WTF - you have a house which you partly own and are wealthy enough to have both saved a deposit for and passed stress-tests. If we as a society decide to fund mortgage payers over those well off, then we are truly broken. I am glad Starmer said 'I would rather fund many other things for people and families than a mortgage....'
On a tracker.
Absolutely ****ing livid about it. Several hundred quid a month more for **** all.
If I'm ever within 50 yards of Kwasi Kwarteng or Liz Truss, I may well end up in trouble with the Po-Po.
I’m part of the 70% of the country who doesn’t have a mortgage, which lends weight to the argument that interest rates are a fairly blunt tool (as they only really affect 30% of us)
and given most people are on 2 year fixed rates, they have to wait 2 years to see what effect their rises have on residential mortgages...
Not only blunt, but massively delayed!
got 3.5 years left of a fixed at 2%
got offered a better rate for a 2 year fixed and so glad that I didn't take it
I am overpaying as well so should only have 2 or 3 years left on it when the fixed term is finished
and given most people are on 2 year fixed rates, they have to wait 2 years to see what effect their rises have on residential mortgages…
But not everyone is coming out of 2 year deals at the same time.
I'm in an 'interesting' situation as used my mortgage to lend money to my sister as it's a lot better than she could have got - 0.48% over BR tracker. She was doing well when rates were low but not things are a bit trickier, might have to switch her to interest only for a while
used my mortgage to lend money to my sister
Is that technically legal?
discussing help for mortgage payers…!? Like WTF
MIRAS used to be a thing
I am not a financial whizz, but had the foresight 12 years ago when we bought this house to do it well within our means.
...and to have been blessed with 12 years of VERY VERY low rates and house price increases which substantially changed the equity equations, facilitating even lower rates, thus enabling you to pay down your debt quicker. How might that have altered had your house price decreased and your interest rate almost trebled in the first 3 years?
That's the situation that many are facing now.
MIRAS used to be a thing
From Wiki about it:
"MIRAS was completely abolished in April 2000 by Gordon Brown, who argued it had become a middle class perk.[4]
Receiving MIRAS was one of the justifications given by mortgage advisers when selling endowment mortgages."
Aye, sounds a wonderful middle class and bankers tax perk...
I'm fine - I'm living in the house I bought 20 years ago on a significantly lower salary than I have now. A combination of overpayments over the years and a decent savings habits means that when my fix ends in September I'm just going to pay it off as my cash savings exceed the outstanding balance.
I'm glad I never got tempted by stretching myself for a bigger house than I actually need.
Luckily mortgage free, but still got 2 adult kids at home who are finding it very difficult to rent let alone afford a mortgage, increased interest rates will help our savings but doesn't help sell my friends house that went on the market 10 days ago - hoping someone downsizing will take the plunge ☹️
were fixed at 1.95% until MARCH 2025
Id like to think rates will be lower then, but I seriously doubt it!
Remortgaged early in '22 at a cost of £2,000. It stung at the time but I'm risk adverse so went for it despite push back from the bank & wife. I got 10 years (+6 months) at 2.04% which I'm now happy with.
We really want to move to a bigger house, but fully aware our energy prices, food and general cost of living has shot up. I think we'll just stay and do a few bits to the house we've been meaning to do for sometime and hopefully live within comfort..
I'll most likely see what happens once the full extent of the changes are felt by the market. We live in a 3 bed semi, so probably the sort of size people would be willing to downsize to. I guess we'll take a wash on our house value though, but at a smaller proportion than the big houses. Could be a good time to move after all?
Just checked- they are even offering 10 year fixed now at 4.79% at our bank. Seems reasonable to me for peace of mind! It's lower than 2 year fixed (5.64%) & 5 year fixed (5.09%) too..
My mortgage is up at the end of the month. We are going on to a interest only 2 year discounted tracker mortgage and our repayments will go up by about £200pcm. If rates don't go down by enough in 2 years then i foresee us having to downsize.
Personally i dont agree with raising interest rates as i see inflation being governed by external factors, which have now reduced in price (oil, LNG), along with corporate greed; if supermarket costs goes up by 50% and their price goes up by 50% then they've also added 50% onto their margin and they should be held accountable for this IMO. It will also hinder businesses lending which will also hinder growth, which is what the country needs so desperately right now.
Also if you are making enough money in your savings from interest rates alone then you've already got enough cash in the bank.
Fixed about 7 years ago at 3pc. Felt like I'd made a bad decision but at the time I thought the interest rate couldn't possibly go any lower and only likely to go one way ( I was wrong). Can't remember what the base rate was back then. But I'm naturally risk averse. And when I first bought a house the base rate was 4.5pc so that felt more normal to me. Hoping to pay it off next year and I'm getting some return on savings now at least. I feel lucky, but feel I've overpaid over the years due to my over cautiousness, but I figured with a long term fixed rate it would always be affordable for me. I've massively overpaid though to complete before the fixed rate ends.
Our three year fix at 2%ish is up next April so that should be fun! Luckily we were about to pull the trigger on an extension when lovely Liz decided to shat all our pants so dodged adding any more debt hoping to be able to look again when the mortgage needs renegotiating next year as rates were predicted to have fallen back by then. Doesn't look like that will happen so plans will change. We have been in our house for 10 years and not added to the mortgage in that time so our LTV is pretty low and outstanding debt not bonkers so hopefully will be able to suck up any increase by cutting back on other things.
It's all very well people saying low rates were always going to rise at some point but I don't think anyone could have predicted such a quick jump, on top of huge increases in virtually every other everyday cost, coming after years of wage stagnation! Slower changes are easier to adapt to but this is something else and lots of people will pay the price through no fault of their own. Saying that, I often wonder how people get accepted for some of the whopping great mortgages they seem to.
Been mortgage free for 8 years, but having cashed-out and down-sized the interest on savings until recently have been derisory, the Truss-Kwasi effect on my pension means that’s decreased/flat-lined whilst all other expenses have increased. I still think there’s a few more bumps in the road for the UK economy until we see the return of a sensible government that encourages the right kind of investment that will increase productivity and GDP.
What kind of "productivity" are you seeking? GDP growth in the UK and other Western nations over the last 25y is inextricably linked to debt and the creation of new money by banks in the form of debt to the tune of 85%+. The more people save, the less new money is created through debt and the smaller the economy gets.
It's not people and their aspirations, it's banks incentivising debt as they're the eventual winners and there's no regulation.
Two parts to our mortgage, both fixed for 5 years 2 or 3 years ago. Cant remember exactly what the rates were but lowish.
They're up for renewal late 25 and late 26.
At the moment, I'm still not sure whether that will be OK, or an ever bigger shock to the system than it would be now.
Looking to increase our overpayments in the interim, to provide what mitigation we can.
Another one in the doing fine camp. Like Jamesoz we got done over stuck on an SVR tracker post 2008 and Chorley BS would not reduce the SVR inline with the market. We kicked them in to touch as soon as we could. We have since lucked out on electricity fixes etc. although that deal ends next month.
Currently fixed for the remaining 3.5 years of the mortgage.
The general thought is that it'll be 2027 before rates drop back below 4.5%. That's a reasonable amount of time to have to suck it up.
Just starting to try and sell my mothers house to pay for her care bills. EAs reckon prices down 7% and a general nervousness. Not tge best time to need to sell but it is what it is.
We were "Lucky" in that the penalty free option for our next fix with our existing lender came up in April, nobody was offering anything better so we took their best offer of a 5 years at 4%, we were previously on 2%, the deal actually kicks in from August when it will cost us ~£300 a month extra, far from ideal but we're being somewhat circumspect about it, we can afford it others can't.
That deal has, of course, since been pulled...
A mate of mine managed to pull off a 1.99% offer that had been made prior to Liz And Kwazi's helpful input, they had a smaller LTV than most. otherwise almost everyone else I know is watching with growing trepidation as their own fixed rate finish date approaches.
While I have sympathy for most people’s circumstances, I do know some people who have clearly thrown caution to the wind and bought expensive properties with no calculation of what a change in circumstances will mean. I struggle to feel too much sympathy for them.
I think the problem is that in many parts of the country, pretty much all property is now "expensive" It's not a case of people "throwing caution to the wind" and buying unaffordable properties, most property has just become relatively unaffordable/overvalued to service various expectations of ever growing equity. Don't forget a reasonable proportion of domestic property isn't actually owned by private individuals but property investment funds and the like looking for minimal costs and maximum ROI.
Renters (a chunk of whom would like to buy) are still slaves to the same forces, having their rents pushed up by current "market value" and having to cover their landlord's mortgage (plus any other overheads on top).
There is I'm afraid a bit of a 'Boomercentric' POV with all of this, simultaneously telling younger generations they've over burdened themselves with debt, whilst being the one's most benefiting from that situation (presumably their pensions and savings are doing better from the BoE base rate?)...
There is a nice old bubble of inter-generational wealth and asset inequality just sat their waiting to burst, those smugly pointing out to those of us saddled with more debt as punishment for the sin of not being born a few decades earlier could at least reflect a little on how fortunate they have been over the years.
we’re 1 year into a 5 year fixed on a BIIIG mortgage (big house in Hove.. blended family = too many kids!!).. fixed at 1.19 ish %…
Would be another few K on our mortgage per month at today’s rate.. eek~! Should have fixed for 10 years!!!
DrP
This illustrates the problem, perfectly people needing housing and taking what should be a financially responsible decision, only to be be penalised down the line for choices taken by a select few, allegedly to fight inflation, but epically failing to do that as well. The best most of us being forced on to higher fixes than we expected can hope for is that these Base rate hikes, level off and then drop back to a sustainable level within the next 24-36 months(?)...
Best of luck Dr P...
I'm certainly interested in house price changes. It's likely we'll be downsizing (maybe relocating) a couple of years from now and I'd hoped there would be enough cash released to (part) fund a small motorhome.
Mortgage free after downsizing a few years ago, happy with my 2 bed ex council house and 12 year old Skoda. Am definitely not feeling smug, seeing my daughter struggling to find anywhere affordable to rent, and the hoops she has to jump through just to be able to have the basic necessity of a roof over your head makes me sick. This country’s housing situation is absolutely disgusting, friends on the continent can’t comprehend our rental market, it’s been decades of failed policies that have got us here. I can only see a major shake up turning this around… although getting the self serving bunch of grifters we call a government out would be a good place to start
I have 2 years left on a 5 year fixed @1.7%.
Hoping to sell by then and get a place with my partner and 2 kids will be finishing Uni by then too so hopefully savings there that will offset the increase plus my mortgage isn’t that big.
Due to renew next year and not looking forward to it. House also needs some work doing and we’ll need to move to a three bed within the next three years as the kids are currently sharing a room. I think it’s more likes that me and Mrs F will end up setting up a bed in the living room. The jump in price from an affordable two bed to a three around here is just plain ridiculous.
When we offered on this house back in October 2021 I assumed we’d upsize in 10 years or so to get my daughters their own bedrooms. These days I’m thinking they’ll be sharing until they move out.
Divorced in 2019, original mortgage from 1997 wasnt paid off but I did have the money saved to pay it because the original amount was so small and I'd managed to save the difference. Remortgaged for 18 years on a tracker for two years at low rates so I could buy the ex wife out, then fixed at 1.22% for five years. Three and a half years to go and large overpayments will hopefully mean I have 3 to 4 years left when I exit the fixed rate, by then it won't be too large and I might pay it off with savings or take a loan. On the whole I've made right decisions every time I've needed to, be it fixing, variable or tracker. Now, when it comes to energy deals I'm next to useless!
My numbers are assuming the rate will be 6.5-7%, but there are still quite a few trackers available for 4.75, so hopefully, I can get something closer to 5.5% come March. I'm just going to stick it on a 3y tracker and see what state we're in come 2027. I'm 42 and have 20y left on the mortgage.
Paid it off about 4-5 months ago. Came off a fix, had some savings helped by a decent compo pay out after a bad accident. We were a bit nervous at committing what was a pretty big chunk of cash into the property, but I'm pleased we did. Fortunate to be in this position.
Certainly feel far from smug. I just about managed to hang on to my first property in the early 90s. Know a lot of people who handed their keys back, county court judgements etc. I got stuck in negative equity for a decade. It was a pretty miserable experience and I really pray we aren't going to see a repeat of those times.
C