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...she's 13 and she just laughed at it. At the technology, at the sets, at the effects and at the now obvious bloke in an outfit.

I just got - 'is this that scary, awesome film you've been going on about for years dad? Doctor Who is scarier'. Closely followed by 'Look at the shit tellies' and 'haven't they got touch screen'. She only cared about the cat.

I feel sort of abused now, my view of the film has now been soiled.

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Posted : 26/06/2016 9:00 am
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Every time I watch it I still jump, it has the see nothing do everything part that nobody does anymore. The part where they didn't tell anyone the alien was coming out of his chest to make sure the reaction was real etc. I guess this generation wants to see the gore.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:02 am
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The Exorcist next Friday night?


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:05 am
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I need to stop browsing in my tiny phone. I only clicked to see who Allen was.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:06 am
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Still a classic.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:09 am
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http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/alien-0

You mean Alien the 18 rated film?


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:13 am
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Nope I think she is just being Female and Teen. Let #1 watch it last year at 12. Rivited to edge of seat for the duration.

Likewise Godfather and The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Classic cinema is in the fold for a reason. It transcends technology and CGI capabilities.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:15 am
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You mean Alien the 18 rated film?

Do you really think it would be rated 18 today?

Anyway, if I wanted to show it to my kids I would. Don't think I'll bother given the OP's review 🙂


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:32 am
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Likewise Godfather and The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Classic cinema is in the fold for a reason. It transcends technology and CGI capabilities.

Neither of those would be filmed with that much CGI these days, either - retouching, maybe some scenery - they're not SF films which date much faster.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:33 am
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Good the bad and the ugly is rated 18. Would not even get a 15 these days.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:34 am
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I watched Alien with my then 15yr old son. Totally unfazed by it after I'd bigged it up as an all time classic.

I still prefer Aliens though!


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:39 am
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now try her with the first Robocop. I'd buy that for a dollar!


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:41 am
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It's rated 15 now according the Channel 4 programme rating. And after watching it last night for the first time in 10yrs or so, you see far worse on normal TV now.

The Exorcist next Friday night?

Even I laughed at the Exorcist - I've never found it scary.

I still prefer Aliens though!

Me too! But I had to start at the start with her, it may take some convincing to get her to watch it though.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 9:42 am
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The Shining? I remember a school friend being too scared to walk home on his own after we watched it one afternoon...


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 10:14 am
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Did you sit in a pitch black room to watch it? Ambience is everything.
I still find the thought of watching it makes me anxious, Aliens is easier & prefered (due to big guns & 'nuke em from orbit' line) though still makes me jump.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 10:18 am
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I wonder whether Hammer Horror films were ever scary in their day


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 10:34 am
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Try a modern film: "Freaks of Nature" - my kid enjoyed that one.
And he liked the Terminator films.... (oh god, it's an 18 call the NSPCC! 😆 )


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 10:41 am
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Scared the shit outta me at 8, but not as much as RoboCop, yikes!


 
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The Shining? I remember a school friend being too scared to walk home on his own after we watched it one afternoon...

Was talking about this just the other day. Watched it at a pals house one afternoon when we were about 12 or 13. I had to cycle home in the dark in the snow, missed the shortcut out and cycled down the middle of the road for much of it!


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 10:42 am
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You mean Alien the 18 rated film?

Films rated 18 are for adults. No-one under 18 is allowed to see an 18 film at the cinema or buy / rent an 18 rated video. No 18 rated works are suitable for children.

Yes that's the one, the one he can watch in his own home with his daughter.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 11:11 am
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I think it's aged very well, watched the Blu-ray recently and it's still a brilliant film.

I love the opening scene of the Nostromo waking up....


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 11:26 am
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Event Horizon. Still struggle with that, though possibly cause watching the build ups i know some horrible stuff is about to happen


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 11:30 am
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John Carpenter's The Thing is another claustrophobic horror classic with FX that people growing up with slick CGI would probably laugh at. Good old fashioned physical stuff. And still, along with Alien, one of my favourites.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 11:30 am
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The opearting theatre scene still works for me ! By the way the director did not tell the actors what was going to happen 🙂 When we did the Disney ride with my kids (7 and 8 ) they where terrified 😯 bad parenting choice


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 11:32 am
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I was only asking. Sheesh...


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 11:43 am
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The thing about Alien is it's just so beautifully designed:

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https://wharferj.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/ron-cobbs-alien-semiotic-standards/


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 12:11 pm
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My 10 year old also was pretty non plussed with Alien. But was terrified by the Conjuring... 😕


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 12:17 pm
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My son has learnt to run out the room when he hears me tell him "this film/song/comedy/concert is a classic you have to see this'll

Saves him feeling pity and embarrassment.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 12:19 pm
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At the end of the first Alien, ripley puts on a space suit and fastens herself to a chair before blasting the alien out the airlock.
At the end of the second Aliens when fighting the stupid, unscary, crappy CGI'd Queen alien she's hanging out in space, bay doors wide open.?! Every child knows space is a vacuum, so they'll just find it as laughable as i do..


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 12:36 pm
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It's just like how some films are set in a version of the past as imagined in the present- Aliens is set in the future as it was imagined in the past. Nobody takes the mick when we discover something from prehistory that contradicts The Land Before Time.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 12:52 pm
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>dumbot
Except there's no cgi


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 1:19 pm
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It was quite funny when the alien runs across the dinner table lol.

A different take:


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 1:35 pm
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Except there's no cgi..

Ok blue screen, i know what i meant 😆

spaceballs,..that was brilliant, must watch that again


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 3:40 pm
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It was 1986. Not as laughable as a: the original alien death. Or b: dick Jones' demise in Robocop.

Whilst we're at it, show them American Werewolf. That'll separate the men from the boys


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 4:10 pm
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I often think Alien holds up well for a 70s film. The only dated stuff is the CRTs but otherwise is fine. Though for a 13 year old these days it doesn't have enough action going on to satisfy the short attention spans and the type of film like this and The Shining where suspense is truly frightening just seems to go over their heads. Their senses dulled by mindless CGI action flicks and jump out of your skin every minute horror films, perhaps.

Aliens on the other hand I find dates more. Some cheesy 80s stuff in it and more obvious effects. Though I've always preferred Alien to Aliens.

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now try her with the first Robocop. I'd buy that for a dollar!

Must be the full uncensored version with the full length Murphy shooting scene.

Actually I always find that funny. It's so over the top, but that's what's cool about Robocop, and likewise all Verhoeven films. The violence is brutal, over the top and comical. A lot of political satire in them.

Likely kids would just spot the "dated" special effects and think it's dumb.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 4:20 pm
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I wish they'd take the deadpool effect and use it on the Robocop reboot


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 4:24 pm
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Conversely, my daughter, who is 12, woke up twice last night after watching pirates of the Caribbean, which is a 12.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 5:09 pm
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Event Horizon. Still struggle with that, though possibly cause watching the build ups i know some horrible stuff is about to happen

I went to see that in the cinema , i want to see it again but still cant bring myself to watch it again .

I cant wait till my boy is older and i can make him watch predator , aliens , commando , usual suspects , total recall and a whole load of other stuff usually on itv 4 at 10pm .

I remember watching the wild geese with my dad and crying my eyes out when Richard Burton had to shoot Richard Harris


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 5:22 pm
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she's hanging out in space, bay doors wide open.?! Every child knows space is a vacuum, so they'll just find it as laughable as i do..

Don't see a problem with this scene? She's not hanging out in space, she's still basically in the ship, and the air is rushing out into space... because it's a vacuum.

The bit that always [i]does[/i] bug me, though, is when the dropship is released when they first go down to the planet. It drops like a stone, but wouldn't it just sort of hang there?
I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming it's supposed to get some sort of push, but it always looks wrong to me.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 5:44 pm
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The Shining? I remember a school friend being too scared to walk home on his own after we watched it one afternoon...

This +!. In a darkened room. I was jump-scaring at the screen going black in between scenes...


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 6:22 pm
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Salmon. Someone did the maths. It would take about 2 seconds to decompress the hangar.


 
Posted : 26/06/2016 7:22 pm
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Salmon. Someone did the maths. It would take about 2 seconds to decompress the hangar.

Well, yeah, no doubt IRL they wouldn't all be right as rain again after a few minutes of gasping on the floor when the door shuts again.

But if the main objection is essentially the size of the ship/hangar rather than the basic principle then personally I can let that slide in a film like that.


 
Posted : 27/06/2016 8:43 am
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Likewise Godfather and The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Classic cinema is in the fold for a reason. It transcends technology and CGI capabilities.

Neither of those would be filmed with that much CGI these days

Theres often as much if not more CGI/ and green screen in films like that than if films you'd think of as 'special effects' film. Its exactly because what they are showing you is mundane and realistic rather than fantastical that you don't notice them


 
Posted : 27/06/2016 10:06 am
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this is rather interesting in that respect too


 
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I think the older a film gets the more suspension of disbelief is required, you have to want to buy in to the world the film creates. Much more so for sci-fi, fantasy etc. I think if you enjoyed a film "back in the day" it's much easier to suspend your disbelief and relive the experience of watching it.

I love watching The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, Clash of the Titans, Jason and the Argonauts, Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger every time they are on TV. I love the artistry that went into them and I still remember how terrified they made me as a kid. My wife just laughs at them and thinks they are ridiculous hokey old crap.

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http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/alien-0

You mean Alien the 18 rated film?

It's worth mentioning that Alien was rated "[b]R[/b]" in the states since it's release ie
[i]"Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian. Contains some adult material. Parents are urged to learn more about the film before taking their young children with them."[/i]

So under 18s have been watching it since it's release over there. Hopefully, no one died.


 
Posted : 27/06/2016 10:22 am
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Interesting isn't it - the "futuristic" space travel elements don't look dated at all, which just shows how little progress has been made in the technology. The British astronaut guy came back from the space station in something the Russians put together with Lego probably before Alien was released.

The computing technology, on the other hand...

(p.s makes you think, doesn't it ?)


 
Posted : 27/06/2016 11:31 am
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Show her again when she's a bit older again and she'll get it


 
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