[Closed] So I need to lose weight. Its abit like quitting fags

ive just had a sausage and bacon baguette a cuppa and a rollie.

bp - low, bmi - low
smug levels - high

SOOBalias- I hate you. Last Fri, Sat, Sun and Mon I had a fry up at home. Now I have to suffer 😀

I have lost over 16lbs since xmas.It has taken an enormous amount of willpower.

Not really cut anything out just cut down on quantities and avoided the between meals snacks,and substituted chocolate and crisps for fruit.

Cut down on bread too.

For me the snacking was a boredom thing.Keep yourself busy and the snack urges subside.

ive just had a sausage and bacon baguette a cuppa and a [b]rollie.[/b]

bp - low, bmi - low
smug levels - high

Chances of dying form lung cancer and or smoking related diseases - high.

9kg? Bah.

I need to lose 3 stone really (ideal weight says I need to lose 4.5 stone but I don't think that's realistic)

I just love food and every bike ride is painful because of my knackered neck/back/arm. Did 14 miles on the road last night though (holme valley so BIG hills).

I'm finding it so difficult, especially as I now work in an office, back breaking manual labour did help in my previous work!!

I do feel down about it as it's just so difficult. I am a sprinter so the longer rides just kill me. I went out on a short road ride with a very fit road rider recently and he couldn't stay anywhere near me in sprint sections but give me a long MTB ride (eg peaks pootle recently) and I'm dying.

Stop your whining you fat git 🙂

i eat porridge for breakfast now all the time.................lush 😥

genetically im most likely to go from heart problems, but cancer is a very close second.

lifes too short. I nearly bought it head on with a car on my commute yesterday (entirely my fault, cornered too fast got thrown off line by a new pothole.....)

you wouldnt believe that i earn a decent wage as a motivational speaker, would you!

ton, thats what I had for breakfast (Goats milk). I normally have 6 slices of seeded toast with Nutella spread out through the morning. I know I know.

I'm currently 98.8kg's. I reckon 90kg would be a great compromise.

Filling stuff. Pasta and the like.

Yes, getting used to that "hungry feeling" is a bit of a drag

It would be more of a drag to still weigh over 80kg for the long, hilly event I'm doing in the summer though

Hora, do you really weigh that much? It doesn't look like it tbh. (and no, I'm not angling for a date 😉

Looks like I weigh 98.4kg or 217lbs. Mind you I am only 5'7". :-/

9 days ago i joined the wife for support to help her loose a few pounds before she has to put "that" dress on for a mates wedding. we have cut out carbs, no bread, pasta, tatties etc just lean white meat and fish with plenty of fruit and veg. NO snacking only red wine to drink (in moderation)
so far have lost 1.5Kg, she is even better, but had more to loose!!
Not easy for me as I like a pint and whiskey or two, and would kill for a nice bit of white bread/toast.
but i am very surprised and pleased with it so far. only intend to keep going till the weekend tho.

robdob, sadly yes. I was 90kg's until the turn of this year!

You are 98.4/5'7? Dude. You need to drop some weight as well! You'll be a rocket on the climbs. Think about it, you'll have the leg strength but you'll drop a rucksack full of dumbells.

Hora - 😀

Thanks, that does make me feel a load better!

When I was at uni I rode BMX EVERY DAY and I looked like a skeleton, recently saw a pic of me at that time and tbh it scared the living daylights out of me. Mainly because I have a huge head like my bro and I looked like a Chupa Chup lolly.

In the last 2 years I have had loads of blood tests and other stuff to diagnose something and I am in perfect health (other than my neck) and also have perfect vision, so it's not all bad!!!

I also have a full, luscious, thick head of hair. 🙂

A few big things I've found to help.

1) Get the wife / whoever you live with in on it with you. It's a lot easier to not eat rubbish if your house isn't full of chocolate digestives.

2) Worst thing people ever do is announce "I'm giving up food / fags / beer" and the first topic of conversation anyone ever has with you is the thing you're giving up. Just eat less and do it on the quiet.

3) Take packed lunches to work. Big packed lunches. Have something like a two finger kitkat or a packet of skips so you don't feel totally short changed (both approx 100kcal - mmm. Kitkat or Special K bar, not a hard choice). Or some of last night's dinner to nuke.

4) Pack up drinking as much as you can. It's a really easy way to cut calorie intake without really noticing it in the form of hunger.

I'd also stop worrying about the sprog. They arrive, eat, shit and sleep, and really couldn't give a monkeys about what colour the "nursery" walls are, what toys they have and whether you're using disposable nappies or not. Main thing is not to drop them on their heads.

tron on point 1) mrshora has a sweet tooth but I always end up eating it.

4)- Totally agree. I started drinking EVERY night. Not great amounts but enough.

Robdob, seriously you also need to drop some weight. I'm 6ft1.5 and I dont like the 98.6kg/blood pressure reading one bit.

Another point I should have chucked in is to read the labels on everything. Most pre-packed & takeaway currys are pretty bad, but a lot of curry sauces in jars are pretty low in fat and tasty (some of Mr Grosman's ones for example), so you can have a healthy meal without denying yourself or starting cooking dinner 2 hours in advance.

If you do that you can eat a fairly normal diet, avoiding the horrors of diet foods and still lose weight.

Yeah I know...... but remember Peterpoddy (my brother) seems to be built for efficient aerodynamics and natural padding and whips up climbs like a spanked rat.

Everyone I know who is into cycling and has had kids seems to be very good at weight control as they seem to snatch opportunities to go out on a bike every chance they have, instead of sitting down in front of the TV and scoffing. I think you'll be ok, it's only temporary and as soon as you cut down on the crap the weight will drop off you.

I'm 6ft1.5 and I dont like the 98.6kg/blood pressure reading one bit.

As I said, I've had loads of tests recently and no problems at all, including blood pressure. I just love chocolate!

Thats another of my Nemesis's...takeaway curries. Will do. My curries are actually quite nice 🙂

3/4 stone gone since xmas, 12 and a bit now at 5' 10".

Have started going to the gymn a bit more but mainly it's down to smaller portion sizes for the evening meal and eating a shed load of fruit during the day. Dorset Cereals make for much more interesting breakfasts than porridge.

Swap chocolate bars for dried fruit and nuts, pretty quickly you wont even think about chocolate at all. If you must... have a couple of squares of decent dark choc.

Swap lager for a small spirit (armagnac for me) or wine and no fizzy pop!

Oh, and chew plenty of gum.

Was going to suggest a quick fag to keep the hunger pangs at bay!! Maybe not eh?
I changed my diet dramatically and now eat lots of lentils and beans instead of pasta, rice etc. Also I eat loads of fruit. Lost loads of fat over the last year, feel a lot healthier and my cycling has improved.

It's a head thing...

Like stopping the fags, you have to get your head in the right place, all this talk of giving up this, and doing without that, instant fail. You're just setting yourself up to drop back into your old habits. You need to get into your head that your not "giving up" your going to "Get rid" of all the stuff that's shit, Drinking? it's shit, fags, they're shit, all that crap food, that's really really shit. You just don't do it any more, and this is the rest of your life, OK? That's not to say you can't have the occasional choccy bar, you can, you just can't have one every day...

Once your head's right, it's a piece of piss, 'cause you want to do it, you look forward to each day, 'cause your not putting shit into your body any more...

I think I've lost about a stone since February the 1st. Maybe more- won't know until I can weigh myself! 2 holes on the belt though!

When I moved to Ethiopia.

I'm still eating really well, but I eat no processed food now. Just fresh everything.And hardly anything between meals.

Oh yes, and as its been Othodox fasting since I got here so very little meat.

Its a bit of an extreme diet...

It's a head thing...

Totally agree. My blood pressure is alittle high. That motivation enough. **** looking good in a pair of jeans. I really dont want to be driving a motability Ford around in 20yrs time with a gas cylinder in the boot like most of the other over-eaters or smokers in Manchester.

**** looking good in a pair of jeans

As long as you look ok in your leather chaps though eh Hora?

As long as you look ok in your leather chaps though eh Hora?

Great. Now the next time I meet Hora I'm going to imagine him wearing nothing but leather chaps. That's gonna ruin anyones day.... 😉

you obviously have too much money if you're buying all that booze and getting takeaways 🙂

don't buy treats - put the money in a jar and save it for something nice instead (not food related!)
classic 'if you buy them, you'll want to eat them. and all in one go..'

things that make me feel full:
thick vegetable soups, lentil curries, porridge (milk and honey), big bowl of quality muesli. I personally hate sandwiches - I get hungry afterwards and that's when all the treats sneak in..

I'm always thinking about food but I'm a normal weight. I think about all the tasty things I could eat and realise I could never fit it all in. I guess I just try tell myself 'it's okay, whatever food you want, you'll be able to eat it tomorrow/next week.' - if that makes sense..

In a leather-clad chap? 😯

Chances of dying form lung cancer and or smoking related diseases - high.

Pomposity level: High. 🙄

I've been losing 1 lb per month since last Jan 01st.
Then I tend to put on a little over the Sept - Dec period.

Now I no longer drink (01 No 2009) I have found I'm now down to losing 1.2lbs per month, with a target weight of 12:0:0 on Sept 01st. Today I was 12:05:05, down from 12:12 on 01 Jan.

Modest loss, modest aims. Long term (18 months) aims. It's satisfying when it falls away and that keeps me going. Don't eat junk, fried food, never eat bread, no marg', butter, chocolate, no booze, no cake et al, simple and very effective. No eating after 5pm. No take aways (1 a month maybe). Really, is there anything here you don't already know?

Ti29 I dont want to go 'that far'. Cutting out on snacks and mid-week booze is enough for me.

So far today I havent eated 6 slices of Nutellla'd toast or a grab-a-bag of crisps and a chocolate bar.

If I cut out the day long grazing and the booze my metabolism should adjust back'.

13stone for me would be toooo thin let alone 12!

I lost c2.5 stones two years ago - nearly 13 to just over 10 - and have managed to keep it off.

I'm constantly hungry though.

Lots of good advice here, the main ones being (i) read the labels (have you seen how many calories there are in a Ginsters Buffet Bar!) and, (ii) cook for yourself, from scratch.

Ti29er - That sounds like a prison sentence. You could just summarise it by saying 'under no circumstances allow yourself to get the slightest modicum of enjoyment out of anything that passes your lips. EVER!!! Food is a sin!!! And don't you forget it!!!"

I think I'll stick to be being slightly rotund, and not wanting to take my own life 😀

All that to lose a pound a month? I can quite easily lose a pound a week by making sure I do some midweek exercise as well as my sunday bike ride, and by avoiding eating real rubbish.

No fried food rules out steak for a start, unless you're going to be some kind of gopping Gillian McKeith style pervert and ruin it under the grill.

binners +1

Ti29er - That sounds like a prison sentence

I think even serial killers get treated better than that! 😯

Simple way to lose weight: Use more calories than you consume.

IE, get off your fat arse and do some exercise.

Cutting down on high-calorie stuff can help, sure, but why make yourself miserable?

Who put the "will god strike me down?" tag up and what does it have to do with this thread?

16.5st here, want to get to 14 st but living in hotels and going out for buffet dinners each night is not helping.

i love the fact that a few of you have a mental connection between eating crap and being happy - wierd.

i love the fact that a few of you have a mental connection between eating crap and being happy - wierd.

If something tastes nice and makes my belly full then I will be happy. If it doesn't taste nice then I will be sad. How is that weird?

Unfortunately things that taste nice aren't always the healthiest options.

I don't mind looking slightly out of shape. Its the future-bit that worries me.

SOOBalias there was a piece on the radio yesterday about Rats being fed junk food and after a while even willing to endure electric shocks to get to the Junk food again.

So... sitting down in the evening with a big plate of teeth-watering cheese and biccies and a nice glass of Shiraz is now 'wierd'?

If that ulimately takes a few years off my life or adds a few pounds, I reckon I'll take the risk thanks

Oh... and in the words of Peter Kaye: "A pound? I shit a pound!!!"

i dont find cheese and biccies to be mouth watering, p'raps im weird.

hora, that smacks of addiction. is that providing real happiness or just a reliance on a given substance. rats like crack too. Come to think of it wasnt there evidence that the tiger bread from morrisons was actually made using crack?

Teeth-watering, not mouth-watering (though they're that too). The trick is to find a Tasty Lancashire or something that is so tangy it actaully makes your teeth water

But.... if you don't like cheese, then...yeah, sorry... frankly your a freak 😀

Hora - that nutritionists stuff was in the paper too. Apparently there is a 'perfect' mix of sugar, salt and saturated fats that combines to hit the reward receptors in the brain in such a way that it effectively amounts to an addiction

MaccyD's, Burger King and KFC sussed this out quite some time ago

Hora you want to be very serious about this don't give up on it that BP if it's right is not a BP you want for a young lad. Be worth getting a check up in case something else is causing it to be high.

Sorry - I think you're missing the point.
Ther are people who belive that they can shed a lot in a week, but it's not fat! Fat is waht you want to get shot-of. It's water and muscle most likely.
My scales tell me my body composition, so I know what's going on (coming off).

I've never bought butter or marg' in my life. I don't like chocolate. Fried food can better be done in the oven (chips etc), cook from frech where possible, I have 2 meals a day + maybe a banana. There's nothing amiss here.

The idea that you have to radically adjust your diet will apply only to those who need a life-change but if you're looking to only lose a few pounds, then a mild adjustment is required. If you're serious, then you'd need to get serious, something most people can't face doing (see shocked answers above!) as it's beyond their scope or abilities. Ultimately, you'll get out of this what you choose to change - nothing you don't know already.

Drac I know hence I didnt have my redwine last night, my 6 slices this morning or my afternoon choc and crisps! I'm ok- bloody hungry but I'm not going to keel over.

Putting on 9kg since Christmas of total Lard is stupid.

Robdob- come on fella. Visit your Docs and gets yours checked.

[i]Drac I know hence I didnt have my redwine last night, my 6 slices this morning or my afternoon choc and crisps! I'm ok- bloody hungry but I'm not going to keel over.[/i]

Hora, take my advice if you haven't already visit the Docs and get it checked. That said 1 BP proves nothing to have a better record it needs to be tested over a 24 hour period.

Hypertension causes and is the symptom to a lot of problems.

So... sitting down in the evening with a big plate of teeth-watering cheese and biccies and a nice glass of Shiraz is now 'wierd'?

Cheese and wine? Binners, you PONCE!

'Ooh look at me, with my nice glass of wine to have with my cheese. Lah de dah! Let's go and press some wild flowers.'

Yer Perfumed PONCE!

Ti29er - how do the scales know what is fat/bone/muscle/water etc?

genuinely interested.

Talkemada you do realise that binners is a Beaujous Socialist?

Drac- Im booked in for next Tuesday am with orders not to drink or eat anything for 12hrs before.

I might try it again tonight (being a hypochondriac I have a BP kit at home).

I'm aiming for a BMI of 24 (78kg) by the 'summer'

Was at 26.5 (88kg) which wasn't pretty, by my reckoning 25 is where my muffin top starts/ends so getting 3-4kg below that threshold would be nice. Might just concentrate on stripping fat off from that point onwards.

[i]Drac- Im booked in for next Tuesday am with orders not to drink or eat anything for 12hrs before. [/i]

Excellent.

Home ones work ok but taking your own will never be accurate as you'll put it up by worrying about it.

i love the fact that a few of you have a mental connection between eating crap and being happy - wierd.

Actually fat and sugar sensing in your mouth are hard-wired to trigger a pleasure/happy response in your head, it's all well known and documented.

I am a simply a man of sophistication and exquisite good taste

However, one occasionally slums it with the lower orders, does the tiresome 'man of the people' routine and joins the great unwashed to gorge on pasties from Greggs. It leaves me feeling dirty in a good way 😀

That's once I've pushed past Ti29er in the queue of course. Picking up his usual mountainous delivery of sausage and bean pasties. He's mad for chicken tikka slices too, that one!

Was at 26.5 (88kg) which wasn't pretty,

Well mine is currently 28.3 and I most certainly wouldnt strip off to go swimming happily like this!

Don't eat junk, fried food, never eat bread, no marg', butter, chocolate, no booze, no cake et al, simple and very effective. No eating after 5pm. No take aways (1 a month maybe).

I've never bought butter or marg' in my life. I don't like chocolate. Fried food can better be done in the oven (chips etc), cook from frech where possible, I have 2 meals a day + maybe a banana. There's nothing amiss here.

You're tapped.

The French are generally in quite decent physical shape and eat good food. There is no need to resort to this kind of oddness in order to lose a bit of weight. Particularly not at the rate of 1lb a month.

Either you have the wrong end of the stick as to what constitutes fried (ie, do you mean fried as in placed in a frying pan with some oil or butter, or deep fried?), or you eat a very odd diet and must be a complete pain in the arse at a restaurant.

TI29er - I'm actually starting to feel quite sorry for you. And worry about you in equal measure. Think of the joys your missing in life. Such as :

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Some Macain oven abomination is never going to compete with chippy chips, wrapped in bread and butter, with battered fish is it? And if you think it is, you really are weird 🙂

Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways.

What the **** is going on with me? Idiot.

*Although that Chippy in Hebden Bridge is LUSH 8)

Sounds like you've started to identify with your inner Glaswegian Hora. Buckfast? 🙂

Ti29er - how do the scales know what is fat/bone/muscle/water etc?

They work by sending currents up one leg and down the other, and testing the resistivity. Possibly at certain frequencies too to get certain effects.

Notoriously unreliable btw. Skin-fold calipers are the only reliable way, and they are cheap to buy too.

[i]the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways[/i]

This is the thing. If you're eating like this, [u]and[/u] drinking every night of the week, you could really cut down a lot without even starting to feel like a self-denying puritan obsessive. 🙂

[i]Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways[/i]

I think I see the problem.

Robdob- come on fella. Visit your Docs and gets yours checked.

seriously, was tested quite a lot recently and I'm fine. The biggest problem I have is now I've moved to an office job i'm not as active. Just signed up to the livestrong online diet/exercise tracker (and bought the iPhone app).

My neck is knackered so it's been painful getting out on the bike which doesn't help (after last peaks pootle I went on I couldn't feel my arm properly for a week!)

Where you on Supersize v's Superskinny last night hora?

Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways

Thats impressive even by my standards!! Good work fella!!

Oh, btw my BMI (this'll make some people cry) is 36. :-/

Aiming for 2-3lb a week for 3 months, hopefully 2 stone before I have a big holiday in Wales at Coed-y-brenin.

Where you on Supersize v's Superskinny last night hora?

He's more generously cuddly than "supersize". 😉

Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaway

I'm about the same weight as you and eat primarily veg and lean meats and dont drink. Consider yourself lucky !

So I've dusted down a home Omron checker and its 142/89 and 52bpm. So better 🙂

[i]So I've dusted down a home Omron checker and its 142/89 and 52bpm. So bette[/i]

Your systolic is not good and yes better in the sense the pulse pressure is better but do a few and change arms. Do them at different times each time do both arms.

I want fish and chips for tea...It's almost subliminal

Left
136/85 - 50
129/80- 51

Right
137/81- 52
137/80- 50

Sheesh. I'll give it a rest now and do it again first thing.

See a bit better now your relaxing about the whole thing.

Yes don't over do it and even if it gets lower still see you Dr. Take a note of time and readings, take these with you. Even take your machine just to see if it's that.

well after 5 years off the bike i've managed to get myself to an impressive 105kg 17st ish? @ 5ft9" i was smack on 14 stone when i packed up biking so that's what i'm aiming for.bought myself a new bike this week and trying to eat less,curry is my fav food ever. can't remember the last time i had a drink and i quit smoking 11 days ago 🙄

i'm sat here now with a cough/chest infection and my legs are in bits.(never felt so bad)

You've piled on 9kg and the baby hasn't even arrived yet?
You are so heading down obesity avenue. I'd get some of them there Nike easytone shoes in the morning. You're going to be up half the night, pacing between fridge and larder....
You may as well sell your bike (or keep it for it's future as a 'baby throne holder'). as for 'other' exercise - you won't see that on the menu for a while.
Have you tried cigarettes - they're your only hope...................

Well done Chop, hopefully I can follow your lead. Don't eat too much while you are ill and don't exercise until better, it won't do you any good. Seems like you may be in a similar position to me. I just love the burgers!!

Ton.
You can do all this and more if you want to.
Once you banish high fat junk foods, high cream content food and get on simpler diet, you'll feel sick having full fat anything, inc' the likes of chocolate which is just plain revolting!

It's a question of getting on with it and biting the bullet & not making excuses why you need X or Y in the diet, or why you can't give up A or B; there are too many excuses out there (the French look good on a diet of cheese and bread, or pub on a Tuesday, curry night on a Friday, booze at w/ends, birthdays, holidays, after work with mates, after long rides, keeping the other 1/2 company - J'sus, the list almost endless) and that's one reason why so many fail in their feeble efforts to change.

Once you're passed the cold turkey phase you'll wonder quite what all the fuss was about and why others seem to need all that junk they think they need in their diet.

I've heard the side effect of eating such a diet and have superior taste make you a patronising cock, have you noticed that happen at all Ti29er?