[Closed] So I bought a Defender PT3

His eBay a/c etc could this be PSA'd on Pistonheads and any landy forums etc? I can't even imagine how awful this is 🙁

I swear I am reading a different thread to bearnecessities.

All I can see is a couple of forum members who have experience in renovating these cars offering their opinion. Then being told they're idiots, so understandably getting a bit defensive. It should be noted this bit doesn't even involve the OP, as it is accepted a bent chassis is unacceptable. However a leaky sunroof seems to be par for the course on these vehicles.

At no point has anyone defended the perpetrator, unless I missed it?

As for prodding to death for updates. User posts intriguing story, gets forum involved then vanishes, so I think it's just human nature to know what happened next. And by happen next we all are hoping Wool gets his cash back.

But then again, having been on the receiving end of Bear's misplaced righteous indignation, I guess we just see things differently.

I am not accepting one with a bent chassis

But it would have been very slightly better than no cash and no car.

From where I'm sitting, anyway.

Tbh the only updates i want to see are wool getting his money back.

Not interested in a leaking sun roof - thats a factory fit leak. Imsure theres a check sheet for the leak on the pdi "ensure sun roof leak present "

[i]But it would have been very slightly better than no cash and no car.

From where I'm sitting, anyway.[/i]

It does seem wool has come out of this with a lot less than some others.

It's a sad thing that there are people who will steal money from others under the guise of doing business and rely on the victims being nice decent people who can't believe they're being ripped off until it's too late.

Thing is Wwaswas. Wool was given a cheque when he took it back and thought all was well. He wasn't to know that the little shit was going to stop it.

The fact is, and we have all now come to this conclusion, no matter what way you approach Stott to buy one of his vehicles, his agenda is 100% to con you for the money. He is a certified thief. The car is only the bait, he has no real intention of giving you anything for your money if he can get away with it. That is why eBay is a good scam for him. He will ask for a deposit to hold the vehicle for you and then you will hear SFA ; Job done as far as he is concerned. If you then chase him for it, and in some cases, travel miles to see your vehicle, that's when he blatantly stands in front of you with a pile of shit which you have now no option but to buy, either that, loose your large deposit. He puts you in a rock in a hard place. He is blatant and arrogant and one day he will be stopped. I am sure of that.

I'm on your side mot365 - Stott relied on someone trusting him and then abused that trust.

It's called a confidence (con) trick because the first thing you do is gain someone's confidence in you and then you reel them in.

So what happened here then 😯

Wool, as ever hope you get it sorted and get some money back.

Not interested in a leaking sun roof - thats a factory fit leak. Imsure theres a check sheet for the leak on the pdi "ensure sun roof leak present "

I was lucky enough to attend a Range Rover launch day on a jolly. We were ferried around in some 110 station wagons. I sat in the back seat of one and there were rust streaks on the inside, it had 40 miles on it. I asked how this was possible, you may be right.

I suspect that the factory isn't water tight either because I'm sure that (dry) day was the vehicle's first outing!

I am new on here but have been watching for a while after I found this when searching on Stott"s name. I have been in touch with some of the "victims" on here and can unfortunately add myself to the list.
I think my tale really does prove his intentions.

I initially contacted Stott about a vehicle advertised on ebay, he said it was just sold and could offer me another that he was just starting to re-furbish. We agreed specs and I paid a 10% deposit. I now know that the just sold vehicle was one of the ones under discussion here and had been sold for some time.

Several deadlines were missed and finally he demanded the full balance although the vehicle was not finished by his own admission.

My reply was that I would pay upon completion and after inspection if satisfied.

Two hours later he listed the vehicle on ebay and I have never heard from him again despite my attempts at contacting him.

Take from that what you will.

Mine was the green heritage on ebay at present.

Most tellign thing abotu a search for his name;

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Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe. Learn more[/i]

he's obviously got history he doesn't want disclosed - the only info about him in the public domain is his facebook page and info from Companies House.

I wonder how long it is until he asks for this thread to be excluded from the google results - it'll be difficult for people to find out his history if he asks for any reference to be expunged from search engines.

That comes up on every Google search for a name that you do.

My Video is on YouTube and has now had 274 views. Was put up on Sunday.In the detail I have put his new company name and eBay ID I don't think anything has been removed from Google search it is only in the last three months we have all come together and spoken out. I may me wrong though.

The best way to contact eBay is to copy the link below into a new browser window. You may need to sign in with your eBay username.
http://ocsnext.ebay.co.uk/ocs/cuhome

When in click on "buying" Then click on other buying proplems then click on report and item or listing violation, this will bring up item you have looking at or have bought. Click on the appropriate item and then tell them the problem. Make sure you give them his ID just to make sure they have it.

Here is another way to report on eBay

Fiona, I would like to encourage if you find the same situation in the future, here’s how to report a policy violation from within a listing:

1. ?Go to the listing for the item you want to report.
2. Click the Report item link on the right side of the page, above the seller's detailed item description.
3. From the drop-down menus, choose the reason for your report, then click Continue.
4. Please try to ...
[THREAD ID: 1-1023ZOWO]

I wonder how long it is until he asks for this thread to be excluded from the google results - it'll be difficult for people to find out his history if he asks for any reference to be expunged from search engines.

I would suggest a new one every six months linking back to this one

Edit: wrong place in hindsight

It may well be misplaced indignation, it's the internet wordy place after all, so only bits of text to go on. Plus I wasn't calling out an individual, just posting observations/view on the thread direction.

Someone calling one of the victims of acon artist a prick, kinda poked me into my misplaced indignation.

It was 4:30am though and I'd not slept well, so apologies to anyone who thought I was accusing them of anything.

Just a thought; would sharing the shyster's identity on your Facebook feed start getting the word around effectively? We're all bound to have a 2nd/3rd degree connection in the area.....

To the people who've been fleeced by this bellend, Ryan Stott, I sincerely hope you recover your funds.

Bear - that was me. I won't apologise because quite frankly that was how mot was acting when confronted by those who know better about these things who were only trying to put things into perspective. Ungrateful us another way of putting it.

Bear - that was me. I won't apologise because quite frankly that was how mot was acting when confronted by those who know better about these things who were only trying to put things into perspective. Ungrateful us another way of putting it.

It happened to six and more of of us we can't all be wrong. Iv'e been driving Land Rovers for over 40 years probably long before you were born.

Ouch. I think that's half the problem. Getting all misty eyed over some shonky old tractors has made a few folk lose their senses.

Putting a (non-returnable?) deposit on something that may not exsist is bonkers.

It might have been OK in the 50's, you could leave your door unlocked, all this was just fields.

That sort of nostalgia will be leapt upon by crooks these days. Ask the young uns 😀

you (pl) certainly have problems in communicating this in a credible way. If you disagree with this, then you are obviously a prick as I am an expert in teaching and know more than you.

Yes. That's completely analogous.

captainsasquash Lets be clear hear. I for one have no interest in what you or the other "know it all's" ( you know who you are ) put forward on here with your so called expertise in Defenders i.e taking a hammer when looking at them or how the roofs leak and engines run etc. This forum is to warn others about Stott and get him off the radar for good. Neither am I on here for sympathy.

Yes, down with these experts who know things about stuff 🙄

How do you feel now, Captain?

This forum is to warn others about Stott and get him off the radar for good.

No it isn't

😯

The only thread you've posted on, this isn't a Land Rover consumer advice forum. Wool has participated in this community (yeh, that's what it is) and we feel for him accordingly.

Neither am I on here for sympathy.

But you are here to start slinging around insults?

I can't help but feel you're stretching this spirit a little.

The world of Landy's and 4x4's in general is FULL of people that set alarm bells ringing, it's always been like this sadly.

Pictonrod. Grow up.

Genuine tea spitting guffaw at that, well played.

If you disagree with this, then you are obviously a prick as I am an expert in teaching and know more than you.

can't be that good at communicating as MOT clearly thought you were having a pop at him there 🙂

Surely we can all have a bit of fun with that e.bay listing though...

MOT thinks we're all having a pop at him. 🙁

To be fair to him, I am.

Mot, do us a favour and do one. Perhaps come back when you've worked out how to behave in public.

By the way, what bike do you ride?

mot365, your anger is directed at the wrong people.

Everyone has an opinion, some feel that those ripped off by Stott were too trusting or their expectations of what coudl be achieved unrealistic.

they're not saying you deserve to lose your money.

if you carry on the way you are this thread will be closed and then your chances of 'spreadign the word' will be reduced.

This is a bike forum, albeit a popular one with a wide range of members, I think you need to go on a consumer rights forum if you want to continue your fight.

Shut up, wwaswas! You're not my real dad!

Does this mean the 'one life so live it' sticker factory is in trouble?..

How do you feel now, Captain?

*Goes to a quiet corner for a cry*

Well, I think the chap that the OP, and others, have beef with is a thoroughly nice man, and any criticism of him or his business is totally unfounded.

There, the thread is now complete.

(I'm making a joke at stw's expense, to all those that are out of pocket. WhT happened to you is shit, hope you all get as much back as you can, and laddo gets what's coming to him)

Does this mean the 'one life so live it' sticker factory is in trouble?..

No, they've branched out into "one life livid" stickers instead *

* apologies to all those who've lost money to the s**tbag trader

Dickyboy

You have got it in one 🙂

*applauds dickyboy*

"One life live it "seems to have moved on mostly to the t5 crowd. .... Frankly they can keep it. Suits nasty modified vans better anyway. - usually slammed on castor wheel car alloys with some vinyl wrap hiding their rusty bonnet

One wife livid is more like it for my landy 🙂

Given the sunroof issues, it could probably be 'one life...liquid?'

My boss's brand new (at the time) 12 plate 110 crew was leakier than my '89 90 td. Within 2 years it had rust in the chassis especially the rear crossmember. The panel fit and finish was terrible and the interior was possibly flimsier than mine (although mine was ex raf).
Defenders are not cars, they are slightly faster tractors with more than one seat.

I feel very sorry for those who lost a heap of cash but it seems to me that like in the T5 world where unscrupulous scammers rip people off with badly fitted mdf interiors sold for Cali money that people need a bit of due diligence. Handing over vast quantities of cash basically on a promise is madness. Unfortunately whilst people are prepared to do it the scanners will be able to continue.

I hope there is some sort of happy ending somewhere but my sympathy is reduced somewhat by the attitude displayed by MOT. I'm no Defender expert but I made sure I knew what I was buying when I did and like previous VW and LR based purchases, yes a hammer was used to aid the purchase decision.

Uh

Seems strange to convey the message on a cycling forum when I've yet to see Ryan stotts nane come up on a land rover forum as yet ? Maybe I'm on the wrong 2 mind.

Maybe those forums are in onnit and deleting the posts of hate against him.

I think I'll go test the waters 😉

Mattbee

Oh well then multi millionaire David Beckham must be flying round in a tractor with extra seats. Not forgetting the Queen.

Does this mean the 'one life so live it' sticker factory is in trouble?..

Sigh. There's no helping some people.

Banging your head against a brick wall.

Man wants Chelsea tractor because fashion apparently.

Mine needs a lick of paint before mot I observed while out cutting the grass. Damn

Are the new ones (tdci) that bad I was thinking of replacing my td5 110 with Somthing newer. But maybe a step backward would be better.
Actually what I want is tdi powered series but prices are getting silly.
Sorry slightly off topic

Should change the stickers to "Husband and Wife livid".That certainly put a smile on my face. But in all seriousness I posted on here because I spend most of my time on here as I like the diversity and the collective knowledge that most contributors on the site have and enjoy people's points of view though I don't always agree (its the Singletrack forum after all) + I ride bikes a lot.Never really crossed my mind to post on the landy forums. Umm might just do that. Resigned to the fact that my money has been stolen, Just want to stop anyone else getting stung by Ryan Stott.

Worth it I think. Just spoke to a few folk from the land rover world. No onE I know knows of him. The land rover world do take a dim view of their own ripping others off it seems.

I agree with trail_rat, Wool. Although, maybe have him post for you/link to this thread? As some forums can be a bit off when a first post is a scam post.

Resigned to the fact that my money has been stolen, Just want to stop anyone else getting stung by Ryan Stott.

Just skim read this really, but at any point have you got the police involved?

Apologies if you have.

Been dipping into this thread, sounds like the few that have had direct dealings with Ryan Scott should pen an 'open letter' between them, stating a few facts about their vehicles, signed by them and posted on a couple of 4x4 forums. Gather any extra victims and the word will spread fast.

A seed has been sewn by my self on the Facebook landy owners club..... innocent question first let's see if he hangs him self.

Maybe give it a couple of hours and one of you lot can link to here. I am away to hop on a plane.

I am surprised that Mr Stott is still walking around ....

Stott is going to have someone killed one of these days.

Read this horror Story from Jason Lloyd.

(and trail-rat) I don't want your so called adult opinion on this one)

You all need to co-ordinate and go to the police aswell as launching a civil case

(and with the Police, don't take no for an answer, it's a criminal matter, it's fraud, I was in court a couple of weeks ago watching a similar case for a lot less money - 6 witnesses all being ripped off by one guy and 6 counts of obtaining money)

Take the buggers house off him

Previously on Stott's facebook friends list there was a few names I recognised from the LR 'scene' (including an ex magazine editor) who are no longer listed as friends. Distancing themselves? There are a couple of others from well reputed businesses still friends with him, and a few of my friends are friends with his friends etc, the LR world isn't that big.

Thanks guys
I was so angry after I read Jason Lloyds post. This is serious, he and his wife could have been in a serious accident or killed. I am fed up to the teeth with the so called authorities allowing this runt of a rat to continue, so I wrote again to Trading Standards who made a visit to Stott about my case. Of course he lied through his teeth and again they walked away. I have stated that this has to be stopped before some one is killed. I will update if I get a response. Tiger 6791 What you suggest will be done. Stott has also lied to the courts in my case to have his CCJ set aside, this was done so that he could delay and go into insolvency. Not quite as simple as that though. Lying to the courts carries a prison sentence, a fine, or both. I am in court shortly and will have my time with the judge. I will keep you posted.Thank you and keep putting out the word.

Another victim just been told of £21000,00
Can't say much more at this time.

Any updates Wool?

RYAN IS STILL SELLING LANDROVERS AND SPENDS HIS DAYS DRIVING AROUND IN HIS BRAND NEW RANGE ROVER VOUGE WITH KAYLA JADE SCOTT HIS NEW GIRLFRIEND. HIS MOBILE NUMBER IS 07446556093 I WILL POST HIS ADDRESS SOON!

😯

Well, I give this a few seconds.

Mad the guy is still doing the same shit tho.

More CAPS please?

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he won't get away with this. i will make sure of it for all the money he has stole from you!

Thread back from the dead!! And Ryan Stott is still at it apparently. Don't buy a Land Rover from him Check the V5 if anything is missing walk away, verify everything HPI MOT checker the lot and take a mate or pay for a RAC inspection before you part with the cash and if cant pay with a card walk away. Main dealer everytime for me.

I notice bespoked defenders has a Twitter account, have people tried posting links to this thread on it?

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2562864

i might have missed it being posted already but i noticed this while looking for some info on him....

Wool

Did you get notice of the liquidation meeting as per post above?

You should have had it.

Make sure you send HJS your claim and comments on what's occurred if you haven't already.

alanhardman12 Hi Alan, any chance you could email me at mick.fiona@yahoo.co.uk

I will fill you in on all things happening. Glad you posted on here. All information is very helpful. Michael

He started a new company LAND ROVER RESTORATIONS LTD (10027206) on Feb so I doubt you'll have any luck getting anything from him. Note the liquidator is in Southampton so any creditor meeting is likely to be that way to discourage people travelling.
He probably hasn't got these guys as creditors so they won't get any notification.
Any assets in the old co will be sold at a discount to new co and he'll carry on as usual.

Liquidations done and dusted long gone also the above company's doing nothing never done anything

Ahh been to the meeting,.... that was fun. My understanding is that liquidator can't get hold of him now which is about right for Ryan Stott and his Land Rovers

not only is this person a crook and a liar yet carrying on trading in his friends name and ebay account!. i will send you all the information.

Have you contacted the BBC and watchdog?

Stott must be prime material with all of these twists....

I do hope you get a result after all this.

Surely Rogue Traders would be interested?
It's unbelievable that this guy is allowed to trade at all!