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once the snowflake generation has melted away(hopefully sooner rather than later).
What will replace it?
Thaw generation? Slush generation?
I am in more of a hurry for the selfish and racist older tory/brexiter generation to go.
What will replace it?
Emotionally-repressed stiff upper lip generation? Or have we done that?
Snowflake generation? You mean a generation of people who seem to actually give a crap about others?
I'm with the other poster, the sooner the aging racists and xenophobes shuffle off this mortal coil the better
The Self-id generation. Man, woman, cat, dog, lamppost. Biology won't matter, only feels. The human race will disappear up its own arse hole inventing new pronouns.
The human race will disappear up its own arse hole inventing new pronouns.
Other bodily orifices are available.
Don't oppress the kids with your anal-centric worldview.
They can disappear into whichever hole they most identify with in whichever direction they find most pleasing.
Having two pre teen girls who live via tic tok, I do wonder about this myself.
"the sooner the aging racists and xenophobes shuffle off this mortal coil the better"
. . . or do we change into racists and xenophobes as we age?
once the snowflake generation has melted away
Or new Victorianism... From about 1840-ish, the British changed from being riotous cruel, bloodthirsty and objectionable to become one the most polite, prudish, and reserved nations in the world...which they then ruthlessly exploited to create the largest empire the world's ever seen...
Careful who you piss off...
Snowflake generation? You mean a generation of people who seem to actually give a crap about others?
Don't be fooled by them. They only give a crap about themselves...if others don't agree with them they spit their dummies out and instead of arguing the point through thoughtful and considered debate, they attempt to take the you out by inventing some sort of word engine in 'ist' and getting others to gang up on you so your differing point of view is ignored leaving great swathes of the population feeling unable to express their true feelings and points of view in public. Its this behaviour that has crept into the political classes (due to our current generation of politicians who are nowhere near in the same league as their predecessors), created the current mood of popularism, divided politics and ultimately the rise of extreme political parties on both the left and the right and in the UK Brexit.
Good riddance to them.
Who are the snowflakes?
The people who are so deeply wounded by a little autistic girls telling us to fix the planet?
Or the sorts of people so prone to melting that they can't face making a cake for a gay person?
Or people who would refuse to share a toilet with someone who used to have different genitals?
Or men who feel threatened when women aren't actively disadvantaged in the workplace?
Or people lashing out at a world of identity politics now that it extends beyond their own identity?
Who are you talking about?
Member of snowflake generation here and proud of it. Anyway, I always considered the real snowflakes to be the fat angry balding men who choose to get outraged at Christmas cards saying “Happy Holidays”.
This
Don’t be fooled by them. They only give a crap about themselves…if others don’t agree with them they spit their dummies out and instead of arguing the point through thoughtful and considered debate, they attempt to take the you out by inventing some sort of word engine in ‘ist’ and getting others to gang up on you so your differing point of view is ignored leaving great swathes of the population feeling unable to express their true feelings and points of view in public. Its this behaviour that has crept into the political classes (due to our current generation of politicians who are nowhere near in the same league as their predecessors), created the current mood of popularism, divided politics and ultimately the rise of extreme political parties on both the left and the right and in the UK Brexit.
I always find that people who use the term 'snowflake' are whiney complainers.
Snowflake generation? You mean a generation of people who seem to actually give a crap about others?
Then
I’m with the other poster, the sooner the aging racists and xenophobes shuffle off this mortal coil the better
Sounds very caring to me.
Each succeeding generation thinks it’s better than the previous one. The current situation has been repeatedly played out before, but people are too young to realise it
I find that the funniest thing about people that use the term "snowflake" without irony is their thin skin and inability to:
a) Not get offended at anyone with even a slightly different opinion to them.
b) On a similar note, appreciate the merits of any differing opinion.
c) Remember who made the younger generation as they are.
So, can we have a definition of snowflake please? That way I know what level of disdain to hold you in.
Snowflakes are amazing. Simple yet complex, regular yet unique. How they form demonstrates many fundamental properties that shape the universe.
Torminalas
Very well said.
The generations aren’t really all that different when you dig down into the reality of it all. The only real difference is that one generation is looking forward to the future and are optimistic whilst the other looks forward to the future and is terrified by what they see so seek to turn the clock back to some ideal time around the 50s when times were better. Forgetting all about the actual terror of a Cold War, the possibility of impending nuclear war, the ‘harmless’ casual racism and the fact people in this country were still living is shit conditions far worse than now and were still dying from easily preventable diseases. I call them the happy days generation, as that is all they can see.
There is no snowflake generation, it's a term invented by bastards to denigrate people who actually care and want to make the world a better place. So yeah, come and call me a snowflake, see if I give a shit. I wish the world was full of snowflakes instead of selfish bastards who want to **** everything over for profit.
>:(
once the snowflake generation has melted away(hopefully sooner rather than later).
What will replace it
Bitter trolls desperate to score points wherever they can to make up for some form of repressed inadequacy they're too emotionally inept to acknowledge?
Or dragons. I'm hoping for dragons.
scotroutes
Member
The Self-id generation.....
And yet if someone were to accidentally conflate British and English, or forgets that Scotland is special due to the wording of a 300 year old document that makes it completely different to Wales and NI. Your self identification as Scottish rather than british suddenly becomes rather important doesnt it?
if others don’t agree with them they spit their dummies out and instead of arguing the point through thoughtful and considered debate, they attempt to take the you out by inventing some sort of word engine
Such as calling people Snowflakes?
“the sooner the aging racists and xenophobes shuffle off this mortal coil the better”
. . . or do we change into racists and xenophobes as we age?
I’m pretty sure this is an urban myth. I do not see any evidence of people changing their political perspective as they age.
I’m pretty sure this is an urban myth. I do not see any evidence of people changing their political perspective as they age.
Just look at the demographics of ukip and momentum.
"Celui qui n'est pas républicain à vingt ans fait douter de la générosité de son âme; mais celui qui, apres trente ans, presévère, fair douter de la rectitude de son esprit"
-attributed to various French academics, journaists and politicians circa 1875
Which was rephrased:
"a man who has not been a socialist before 25 has no heart. If he remains one after 25 he has no head."
- king Oscar of Sweeden, 1923.
Wasn't the phrase first used in Fight Club?
Just look at the demographics of ukip and momentum.
The path from liberal to conservative maps nicely to a generation who accrued wealth by sitting in their easily bought houses whilst enjoying their job security.
It certainly doesn't map very well to post boomer generations who have not seen wages rise in a decade whilst housing costs spiral. They want to eat the rich and rightly so.
I think I've migrated in the opposite direction as I've got older TBH.
I always find that people who use the term ‘snowflake’ are
whiney complainers.Fat, angry, crabbit ****ers.
Wasn’t the phrase first used in Fight Club?
Google tells me it was linked to supporters who wanted to abolish slavery in America.
No wonder Trump likes to use it.
Edit: Ooops! It was the other way around. 😳
Anecdote vs statistics. Jesus was a socialist and look what the establishment did to him......
How you view recent history probably depends where you lived and what your parents did. If you were in a town reliant on coal or steel then the 70s and 80s probably seemed like the end of civilisation. Anywhere else it was the era of free love, britain being the center of the cultural universe, followed by the decade of conspicuous consumption and a stockbrokers ferrari/porche crashed in every hedgerow.
Environmentally there were problems with acid rain killing entire forrests and CFCs created a hole in the ozone layer.
Then the house price crash of the early 90s happened. Then those same people watched as their losses turned into double digit growth for the next 15 years and three labour governments with both private and public sector growth.
Then we had a global financial crash and global warming became the environmental issue. At some point (hopefully) those issues will be sorted too. Whilst wages for 20somethigs are lower than they were for the last generation i hope thats not a trend that will continue.
So yes boomers had it good with growth propped up by worldwide demand and north sea oil. But thats not quite the whole story.
Wasn’t the phrase first used in Fight Club?
The first rule of ...
I like the term "snowflake." It's a handy shibboleth for identifying empathy-deficient shitrags who don't like being called out for being offensive. See also, "triggered."
Most of them also seem unfamiliar with concepts like blizzards and avalanches.
Each succeeding generation thinks it’s better than the previous one.
It's the other way around, is in not? Every generation thinks it's better than the following one. If the Millennials (some of whom are in their 30s now, let's not forget) and Gen-Z'ers are "amounting to nothing," maybe just maybe it's because we've spent the last three decades telling them how shit they are?
"snowflake.”
I always laugh when someone mentions that term "snowflake" because it took me a while to understand the meaning when I first encountered it in politics related news.
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It’s a handy shibboleth for identifying empathy-deficient shitrags who don’t like being called out for being offensive
I see what you done.
From about 1840-ish, the British changed from being riotous cruel, bloodthirsty and objectionable to become one the most polite, prudish, and reserved nations in the world…which they then ruthlessly exploited to create the largest empire the world’s ever seen…
Though the East India Company, both the worlds first multinational and pre-cursor to the British Empire (TM), was well established before 1840. In some ways we ARE now much more like we were in the pre-Victorian era with Amazon and Google where we had the East India Company and Blackbeard.
Somebody on here once explained that "snowflake" was coined because those people saw themselves as unique, rather than because they were delicate and fragile. Another word (c.f. "troll") misused in common internettage.
There's nothing more British than looking down scornfully on others. It's what get's people up in the morning! The levels of petty snobbery have got to be unmatched by any other nation on this planet.
The inciters/shit stirrers, shills and opportunists should be the ones under the most extreme scrutiny.
Come on op, what did you say?
It's obvious you've said something deeply offensive, and someone had told you to stfu, and your now just sulking and calling people snowflakes.
What will replace it?
Snowflakes don't breed. Look at London for a generation into the future. And then South Africa for after that.
. . . or do we change into racists and xenophobes as we age?
judging by reports from my partner who works with dementia patients - some seem to become shocking rascists...
I like the term “snowflake.” It’s a handy shibboleth for identifying empathy-deficient shitrags who don’t like being called out for being offensive. See also, “triggered.”
See also "free speech" or "censorship"
When what they really mean is they want to say whatever horrible shit they like without having their views challenged.
See Nigel Farage and his views on free speech and jokes vs the reality of his ilk being the butt of a joke made by Jo Brand
This thread is a troll and I claim my £5.
Somebody on here once explained that “snowflake” was coined because those people saw themselves as unique, rather than because they were delicate and fragile.
Yeah, I think the first time I ever heard it was in the context of "special snowflake" meaning unique, now the "special" bit has been flipped to kind of mean the opposite, "I suppose you think your special" sort of thing.
Come on op, what did you say?
It’s obvious you’ve said something deeply offensive, and someone had told you to stfu, and your now just sulking and calling people snowflakes.
Y'know, I suspect you may be onto something here.
I think the currently emerging generations are being born and raised into a world where populist rhetoric is the norm, where brandishing broad derogatory labels is commonplace in politics and everyday language. Where critical thought is discouraged and simplistic, binary partisanship is rewarded. (Anti-) social media shall be the ‘real world’ whilst the real world will be increasingly less liberal and less sociable. These two past decades of fear-mongering and (largely) unexamined-yet-accepted-as-fact political clickbait will see a long trend of neo-fascism against all the usual scapegoats and a fair amount of rewriting of history.
Source: History repeats itself in predictable swings/cycles. Electronic media amplifies the rate and reach.
Is a snowflake similar to a big girls blouse?
. . . or do we change into racists and xenophobes as we age?
I feel I can confirm that no, we do not.
I always find it faintly amusing that the people who brandish about the 'libtard snowflake, beta cuck' schtick often turn out to be underachieving incels living in their parent's basement. I'm trying to remember the name of the skeezy pick-up artist from the US who turned out to be the poster boy for 'basement life'?
It's the same weirdos who used to complain about the word gay being 'hijacked'.
And yes, it's a great way to identify people you can safely add to the ignore list.
In the same vein, I had a look on the Pistonheads political forum recently. It seems to be entirely populated by asshats.
and someone had told you to stfu,
Well he/she wouldn't be a snowflake cos snowflakes say stuff like, 'i'm deeply offended by that, please please apologise'.
see the EV thread
😂
Edit: Oh! You edited it while I was making pasta.
. . or do we change into racists and xenophobes as we age?
A lot of people do, well they turn more right wing/Tory voting around age 50. A lot of that is selfishness and greed but a bit of racism is added in for good measure.
I am almost 52 and getting more left wing again (not as much as when I was 16 but that would be a bit silly) so doesn't happen to everyone.
Aren’t snowflakes a bit like Goths?
All individuals.
A lot of people do, well they turn more right wing/Tory voting around age 50. A lot of that is selfishness and greed...
I was brought up in a house with Tory voting parents, joined the military and am ashamed to say, voted the same way they did in my first GE. Then as I aged I stopped being such a selfish prick and started thinking about others; and as a result my voting preferences changed.
Eventually when I left the military I joined the Labour Party and, 12 years later, am still a card carrying member and a nursing rep for Unison.
I'm sure a few folks who remember me from the old STW forum might recall my shamefully right of centre contributions to political threads in those days. I am so glad I grew out of that.
It appears there all on here
I always thought the term related to those who felt they were special and therefore required special treatment. Sort of like a friend of mine who turned down a decent job because he thought he deserved better despite never having worked before and thinking a shit degree meant he was entitled to a better lifestyle, job, life etc without putting the graft in.
I have no clue what it means now and just seems to be used as a piss poor jibe. What a gammon from the right would call their opposite from the left or something. All just a bit sad really.
It appears there all on here
I've added your "missing a comma" to the discussion.
I like the term “snowflake.” It’s a handy shibboleth for identifying empathy-deficient shitrags who don’t like being called out for being offensive.
You rang?
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1138878344496369664
I was brought up in a house with Tory voting parents, joined the military and am ashamed to say, voted the same way they did in my first GE. Then as I aged I stopped being such a selfish prick and started thinking about others; and as a result my voting preferences changed.
Eventually when I left the military I joined the Labour Party and, 12 years later, am still a card carrying member and a nursing rep for Unison.
I’m sure a few folks who remember me from the old STW forum might recall my shamefully right of centre contributions to political threads in those days. I am so glad I grew out of that.
You sound awesome.
It's all nonsense anyway - just a lazy generalisation used by a moronic media. The fact is that it's never been possible to assign a rigid set of qualities to a 'generation' (itself a meaningless term).
SEOT.
JP
I'm with the op here .
But I prefer the Sam Smith syndrome.
Sings songs about being just a man incidentally he didn't write but it helped launch his career but wants to be none binary.
Then there's greta the young activist saving the world on a 4 million pound boat surely a Lilly and a oar made from bamboo is what she should be sailing on.
Then there's the lady I worked with who wanted to file a complaint over having no running hot water for 1 HR whilst a plumber carried out repair work and when I suggested boiling a kettle said what if I get scolded.
Seems that the snowflake generation reside on the chat forum.
If someone doesn't want to make a cake for whatever religious beliefs they have for a same sex couple that should be respected as much as it should people accepting that we are the generation of accepting change and sadly it's not a light switch that is suddenly flicked and everyone is going to be ok with change .it takes time education and understanding.
I'm a devoted christian and I'm constantly battling my upbringing faith and the modern world and quite frankly I think I'm very accepting of the modern world .
This thread is a troll and I claim my £5.
Given that the OP hasn't been back, I think you might be right.
In the same vein, I had a look on the Pistonheads
politicalforum recently. It seems to be entirely populated by asshats.
FTFY.
A lot of people do, well they turn more right wing/Tory voting around age 50. A lot of that is selfishness and greed but a bit of racism is added in for good measure.
I was thinking about this, whether racism etc is a generational thing (in the 70s it was fine to talk about "****s") or whether as we get older we get inherently more intolerant. But I think I've just worked it out.
The older people get, the fewer shits they give about what comes out of their mouth. When you're young, image is everything, you lie awake all night because you've got Hi-Tec trainers and everyone else is wearing Puma; when you get older, you care what other people think less and less.
It's Prince Philip Syndrome. He's like a hundred years old, has been married to the Queen since he was twelve, and he still isn't King. If I were him I'd be fresh out of shits to give as well.
You sound awesome.
Actually, he kinda does.
I’m a devoted christian and I’m constantly battling my upbringing faith and the modern world and quite frankly I think I’m very accepting of the modern world .
I would disagree with your conclusion here. You don't appear to be very accepting at all.
In that one post you: think that being non-binary is something someone would wake up and choose one day, like deciding to have cornflakes for breakfast; don't approve of a 16-year old standing up against climate change because she's chosen to sail in a boat that won't likely kill her; think that discrimination against homosexuals should be respected; and demand similar respect for people who think like this because Change Bad.
I'm not surprised it's a constant battle for you. It must be tough reconciling the good book's preachings of being tolerant and accepting of your fellow man with your bigoted world outlook.
With you on kettle woman though, she's a ****ing idiot.
(awaits being called triggered in 5... 4... )
Come on op, what did you say?
It’s obvious you’ve said something deeply offensive, and someone had told you to stfu, and your now just sulking and calling people snowflakes.
Apologies for not responding earlier but I was out at work in the real world.
I haven't said anything deeply, I wasn't told to stfu, and I wasn't sulking.
Far from it. I have enjoyed reading just how easily people on here can take a simple comment that was aimed at no one and run in all sort of directions with it with amazing levels of over reaction.
It was inspired by every day life and peoples over reactions to stupid little things , not racists and bigots which is unjustifiable.
I am not a racists, homophobic or xenophobic, although I am aging please attack me for it.
My use of the English language isn't what it used to be either but I get by in life.
Please don't be offended if I missed anyone out. its nothing personal
Everyone feel free to carry on proving my point for me in my absence 🙂
Cougar
Subscriber
I like the term “snowflake.” It’s a handy shibboleth for identifying empathy-deficient shitrags who don’t like being called out for being offensive.
Aye, basically just this.
I work with teenagers, not just teenagers but mostly middle class educated teenagers at university, the snowflakiest of the snowflakey or so people say. And they're awesome. Way better than my generation or my parents generation. More accepting of and quicker to defend others, less willing to accept excuses, "that's how it is", and "it can't be done" and most of all less likely to insist that complicated things are simple just because they don't understand what makes them complicated. They're the generation that's going to have to fix all the shit that the last few have left behind. Toxic politics, toxic seas pouring into the back garden that you can't afford to buy, and so rent for more than the mortgage payments cost. They're the first generations that people seem actively happy are inheriting what in a lot of the most important ways is a worse world and worse prospects than their parents. When the **** did that become a thing? We've always said "you've got it easy" but we've never before said "we hope you won't". We've aspired to make the world better for our kids not to keep on burning it. And all the while they're going to take shit from the generations before for daring to hope to make things better and for dreaming that if they work hard enough they might have the same things their parents had and a world that's only a little bit more broken. And those generations before are going to live longer than any in history, the people retiring today will enjoy a longer retirement than any generation ever, and no doubt will continue to punch downwards at the people that will end up picking up the tab, for being "lazy" and "entitled"
Seriously, **** off.
Hopefully slush puppies sooner the better mmmmmm mmm