[Closed] Snowflake generation

Chalk me up for the “defending the OP” group please.

The trouble is that anyone using the word snowflake not as a joke just immediately marks themselves out as an idiot.

I wonder how much this is to do with parents, a generation doesn't become snowflake out of nowhere

With the expansion of universities, those I. FE are the ones who's parents aren't pushing them to go to uni

It was just a rant.

How do you know?

It was just a rant

A rant would be fine. Posting saying ****ing parents give your kids a ****ing slap and tell them to ****ing grow up is different and no teacher should spout such bollocks off on a public forum.

I don’t disagree with that, but it also needs the children to work and their parents to support them. No teacher can just get you a grade if you don’t put any effort in yourself.

Of course it does.

Loads just can’t be bothered and openly say they have no interest

That was me towards the end, I wasn’t getting the help, I was put in low grade classes so wouldn’t reach a target to pass. It didn’t matter though if they go their percentages from the others. The teachers who did listen and spent more time got better results from me. One of them was a right bitch, she hated me and my brother before me. Despite that she supported me with my issues and got my highest grade because of that. Still hated me though.

I don’t mind you saying, but how would you know I’m speaking from a position of ignorance?

Thank you, I definitely didn't mean it as an insult. 🙂 Because I don't think you know any better than me whether the OP is respected or not. Their observation about things getting worse over the last 18 months ties in exactly with Mrs Pondo's experience, so I have no reason to suspect the issue is respect, but I couldn't say with any vigour that it was, or was not.

Obviously it's a rant to relieve frustration.

...and none of them know how to shut the ****ing door.

Perhaps choose your words more carefully. You could have easily vented your frustration, even used the word snowflake, without asking parents to abuse their kids.

That was me towards the end, I wasn’t getting the help, I was put in low grade classes so wouldn’t reach a target to pass. It didn’t matter though if they go their percentages from the others. The teachers who did listen and spent more time got better results from me.

It was ever thus, I think - by no means do I think all teachers are saints, but equally there are plenty of good ones flogging their guts out for children who literally could not give a tin shit.

but equally there are plenty of good ones flogging their guts out for children who literally could not give a tin shit.

Figuratively, not literally. Unless you're using a definition more commonly associated with snowflakes...

I wasn't sure why I was reading this thread but then!

who literally could not give a tin shit.

...it all became clear. Thank you for this delightful epithet 🤣

Tin shit?
Alright grandad, put the pipe down and take you and your slippers up to bed you have drunk too much again

Figuratively, not literally. 

Nope - literally, thanks. 🙂

Nope – literally, thanks. 🙂

I'm sure you'll be able to substantiate your claim.

Some context to people not thinking encouraging violence against children is particularly amusing:

https://www.end-violence.org/protecting-children-during-covid-19-outbreak

Snowflake generation

They have difficulties, just like everyone else. It’s not my fault they have an issue.

Mods, please delete this thread. Getting out of hand

Everyone's been a kid at school, not everyone's been a parent, way less people have been a teacher.

I bet everyone's had at least one shit teacher who seemed to hate children and hate teaching children or even seemed to hate them. Experiences of deeply irrational, unfair treatment with no way of responding are the kind thing that sticks with you for life.

Hardly surprising there's been a bit of backlash to the OP's comments: we are the sum of our experiences, and there's a little bit of everyone who's an aggrieved schoolkid who still wants resolution with *that* teacher..

Not saying that mjsmke is one of those teachers, just that the backlash is understandable.

Hope you find a way through, mjsmke.

I’m sure you’ll be able to substantiate your claim.

Thanks, I appreciate your support. 🙂

How do you help someone who doesn’t want to be helped, when there’s another 29 kids in the class you’re just as obligated to?

I have no idea. Which is why I didn't choose teaching as a career. I'd expect someone who did to be able to answer that question. How do you help them?

Mods, please delete this thread. Getting out of hand.

MODS! PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH ME, MAKE IT STOP!!

Snowflake.

Sorry if that makes me a snowflake also…

It does, but I bet you’re not really sorry.

How do you help someone who doesn’t want to be helped, when there’s another 29 kids in the class you’re just as obligated to?

Exactly. My stepdaughter got out of classroom teaching for that very reason. She was pissin against the wind trying to teach a majority when a minority of snowflakes didn’t want to be taught.
The snowflakes are out in force tonight!

Thanks, I appreciate your support.

It wasn't support, it was sarcasm. HTH.

I have no idea. Which is why I didn’t choose teaching as a career. I’d expect someone who did to be able to answer that question. How do you help them?

Generally it's by putting more time in, and enlisting the help and support of the parents if you can. But when you have to also prep work for the sizeable percentage of children off with covid, plus cover the sizeable number of staff that are off with covid without being able to call on supply teachers because they're covering people off with covid or off with covid themselves, and the percentage of children who literally couldn't give a tin shit (TM Pondo) goes from being small but manageable to out of control (because their lives have been utterly uprooted, no doubt, and EVERYTHING is different now), and there is no cavalry coming, you're just going to have to plough through this shit for evermore, well... I just think sometimes people just have to vent.

Mrs Pondo is, I think, a good, hard-working and concientious teacher, and she is absolutely at breaking point. I can't tell you how angry that makes me.

It wasn’t support, it was sarcasm. HTH

Sarcasm or trolling? I see you. 😉

In a customer facing role dealing with public daily. Adults and kids and everything in between for last 14 years now I’m still pleasantly surprised how many youngsters are well mannered yet some older/elderly folks are absolutely brutal to deal with 🤷‍♂️

Sarcasm or trolling? I see you. 😉

I'm sure you think you do.