[Closed] Smoking

I'm in the same boat. Once in a blue moon I'll buy 10 fags and smoke them over 2 days, riding that week will be a killer and I'm out of breath on the gentlest slopes. Thing is there's a lad in our club who's first up every climb and smokes roll ups. When the rest of us get to the top he's either got one on or is rolling one.

5 minutes off your life isn't it?
or at least that's what we were told in school 20 years ago.
I guess the main harm is that it's one step closer to taking up smoking again... hmmm 😐

brakes, I will definitely never smoke sober again. I haven't in 10 years or so. If it is "5 minutes off your life" then what harm does riding in traffic do, with the carbon monoxide from engines?

certainly less than smoking unless you suck on the exhaust ppes whilst riding. Think how conncentrated the smoke is from a fag.
No one knows as you cant doa controllled study re commuting due to all the variables. we do kindly tend to have exhausts on our and pedestrian side though which is annoying

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12193602

I haven't smoked for a month or so now. Don't miss it, and unless I'm thinking about it, don't seem to crave it either. Wanted one a few nights ago after supper. Was only a light smoker though, maybe 5 a day something like that.

funny ones don't count, right? 😉

That right they dont count, provided theres no tobacco in there 😀

anjs - Member
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12193602

That's the report I remember as well.

Personally speaking I know that if I had a few it could well re-ignite the addiction within me.

Just gotta fight it man!! it gets easier. I used to be a social smoker it took ages to crack stopping altogether.

jazz woodbines are worse because you draw that sweet smoke deep into your hooverbags

I smoke cigars. They're marvellous. 😉

if you like mouth cancer

if you like mouth cancer

Depends how much you smoke of course. Drinking can give you throat cancer, but it's not guaranteed. I'll have a big fat Cuban cigar on my birthday with a nice single malt or brandy. I doubt it does any harm.

Depends how much you smoke of course.

Indeed. I reckon with one or two a month at most, I'll take my chances.

So if I smoke about 30 B&H a day I'm pretty much as good as dead right?

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I was searching for vintage smoking ads when I came across this. I can't believe that even cyclists used to smoke back then. I showed this to my dad, and it got him teary-eyed. He was a cyclist before, but he stopped because his cigarette addiction damaged his lungs. He's now using a vaporizer to make up for his habit. For me, the best part about it is that I already know what to give him for Christmas: [url= http://www.vaporizerusa.net/vaporizer-related-products/vaporizer-accessories.html ]vaporizer parts[/url]! Ha ha!

As far as lung damage is concerned, I really can't see the odd one doing that much damage in the grand scheme of things. I think the health nazi's who constantly whine and moan about passive smoking when you come within 6ft of someone smoking outdoors need to get a sense of perspective and shut their pathetic bleating. Oops. I appear to be going off on one 🙂

Anyway... I'm planning another assault on my habit now the suns out, so more opportunity to ride, and everything's generally a bit less depressing.

I sometimes feel bad about my on/off smoking habit.

I get through between 5 and 1o per day now, but I was just sat out on the patio with a cup of tea and a plate of Boasters, smoking away in the sunlight and everything seemed great!

If the odd one stops you from going back fulltime to smoking then I say don't worry about it too much.

On a general note- Cigarettes are utterly evil. 'Passive' deaths also involve house fires and longterm damage to children of smokers (who smoke in the home). Not forgetting the fact that one day you'll be told that your time has come prematurely and your loved ones will have to see you suffer and degenerate infront of their eyes whilst only in your 50's.

I think the health nazi's who constantly whine and moan about passive smoking when you come within 6ft of someone smoking outdoors

It's not for health reasons. It's because it f'in stinks and is f'in disgusting. I do not want a lungful of your toxic stinking second hand crud please thx.

Vancouver must be a good place to quit...

People would burst into fits of exaggerated coughing as they walked past ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET!

Still, I never smoke near children and never in the house/car either.

Even as a smoker I hate it when you find huddles of smokers directly outside the door to a building, be it a pub, restaurant, office etc
I'm always worried that I'll get a cigarette burn in my clothes.

Smoking is cool. fact.

Drinking is cool as long as it doesn't dictate when and how frequent you use it...

So alcoholism is bad as its an addiction.

Why do smokers think their addiction is not as sad as alcoholism?

OP

you have probably done yourself more harm by worrying about the level of harm you have caused yourself by smoking one cigarette in three months

one lightweight fag might equal your 10 mile commute, if you are in traffic, stuck behind a bus etc, or it may equal all the fumes from your commutes over the last three months...

but you could be under that bus tomorrow - smoke if you wanna.

People would burst into fits of exaggerated coughing as they walked past ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET!

Just because your senses are knackered from constant burning smoke doesn't mean everyone else's are.

Many smokers are amazed at how us non smokers can detect fags from a distance. It's not amazing, it's normal. That stuff IS very disgusting!

Hora - because they look cool.

I can't believe that even cyclists used to smoke back then.

Back in the early days of the tour, riders would stop at the bottom of a climb for a cigarette to open up their lungs.

Cigarettes being bad for you is a relatively recent phenomenon. For a long time their health benefits were touted, they were recommended as an expectorant.
[quote=Dr W C Heuper, National Cancer Institute, 1954]
'If excessive smoking actually plays a role in the production of lung cancer, it seems to be a minor one'

Even now there are some who try to claim that there is no causal link between smoking and cancer. Problem being that it is difficult to do a real RCT on it.

Hmmmmmmmmm sexy

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my misspent teenage years mean that living long enuff to die of lung cancer wont be a problem, lol 🙂

Yeah Hora! This is what my average evenings smoking consists of. You'll never be faced with life or death decisions like this because you're a wuss who doesn't smoke

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National No Smoking Day... tomorrow.

And this one is particularly relevant. You, you sad bastard are going to be filling in your census returns in your little non-smoking way. A sad chewed little bic biro wondering if you can put Bingo down as a Jedi

But NO, not for us smokers. This is what my evening will consist of sucker!!!

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[b]What's in a cigarette? Various chemicals that are also used for:[/b]

Paint Stripper
Floor Cleaner
Poison in gas chambers
Mothballs
Insecticide, weed killer
Car batteries
Poisonous gas in car exhaust
Makes PVC
White ant poison
Lighter fuel
Insecticide
Petrol fumes
Embalming fluid
Radioactive gas

[b]Long term effects:[/b]

Stroke
Heart disease
Chronic bronchitis
Emphysema
Lung cancer
Mouth and throat cancer
Stomach ulcers
Bladder cancer
Premature ageing of the skin
Infertility
Peripheral vascular disease in
arms and legs (can lead to
amputation)
Poor circulation
Damage to foetus in pregnant
women
Sudden

The thing is with the 5 minutes malarky is it will likely be spent in a retirement home or senile... which is not much of an incentive to give up 👿

Many smokers are amazed at how us non smokers can detect fags from a distance.

those women will be old and minging by now!

The thing is with the 5 minutes malarky is it will likely be spent in a retirement home or senile... which is not much of an incentive to give up

The first steps are slowly, breathing difficulties that you wont pick up on as its a very slow decline.

Another side effect of smoking is you'll at least get a mobility-funded car in your 50's binners.

Then there are issues; circulation, heart, blood. It could be that a particular smoker declines (their quality of life) over two decades say.

For some it could be a relatively swift decline. From a cough that wont go away to all the plans that you had now cancelled. Seeing your children flourish, never seeing your Grandchildren grow up.

All this but in a really painful and demeaning way.

We can't chose exactly how we die but by God we know that large corporations who have no interest in our life or our childrens lives want us to suffer a slow death to pay them money.

Why put cigarettes at eye level neon-lit just above the sweets?

+1 Hora!

Aaaaahh. I've been taking the wrong approach. Hora let me tempt you with something i know will get your attention

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Look. A bloke in leather chaps 😉

I too used to think non-smokers were 'gay' and uncool. I grew up. I started to hate it, hate myself for liking it as I realised I was a user and an addict.

I am part Jewish and I don't like the Nazi-comments either.

Did the Tobacco companies create this title? Ironic that companies that actively peddle a product that creates new customers from children to replace those that are killed by its product, all inhaled death..

A bloke in chaps?

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What Nazi comments? Are you now accusing smoking of being anti-Semitic?

Once I found out about asbestos I stopped breaking up the panels and sniffing the dust for fun.

Every so often, when I'm drunk, I dig out my stash of asbestos panels and give them a good sanding, get the missus in to have a breathe too. It's only once in a while, can't harm much can it?

"Dying's for fools" 🙂

People refer to ex-smokers as 'Nazi's' because the ex-smokers woke up and realised just how bad it had been when they were addicts.

Its like night and day. Getting to the day part involves crawling over broken glass of denial though. I guess thats what Tobacco companies have been working on over the years- make the cigarettes so addictive that they retain customers 'for life'.

Well as someone who has just bought their first 10 in 3 months I can say that smokers / ex-smokers CAN smell smoke from a very long distance - M6 doing 50 in traffic and I could smell the smoke from the car in front 😯

I've had 2 so far today and have now slapped a patch on and the rest are going on the log burner tonight, taste like sh!t now so I didn't even enjoy them!

How long can you use the patches for?

I stopped nearly 4 years ago(after maybe 20 years of 20/day) and decided I would never start again. Some people may be able to do it but I reckon even 1 would put me back on the slippery slope and I just don't want that.Don't like the smell now and don't miss it.Didn't bother with patches

Well done. Possibly the most spurious analogy I've ever heard in my life.

However, I'm toying with the idea of giving up tomorrow. Again

But... BUT... its conditional. Here's the deal bell-end. If I knock the fags on the head, you have to stop the smoking related propaganda. No more nazi references or any of the rest of the drivel you generally spout on the subject. EVER!! If you do, then I'll start again immediately and enlist Bingo as my passive smoking partner.

Oh... and you have to get your rounds in. Without question or moaning

Mate. It'd greatly please me if you gave up. I mean that sincerely as well.

You'll die of something, I'd just prefer it was old age.

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binners - I would also like to see you stop smoking again, but I must admit that I do enjoy reading hora's anti-smoking chats as they help to keep the non-smoking resolve burning bright in me (not that it is weak or anything).

I'd like to die in an orgy. Preferably in a sex swing with 3 Scandinavian female models (I had to add female incase binners thought maybe.. men) 😯

Its like night and day. Getting to the day part involves crawling over broken glass of denial though

How long does that take? I've tried cold turkey, patches, gum, champix & Allen Carr. Never been able to go more than a couple of months. And everytime I start smoking again - usually cos I've let something wind me up - it feels like "coming home".

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If you have let something wind yourself up that much then to give up smoking successfully you are going to have to look at ways of not getting so wound up.

I have stopped quite a few times before and then became wound up and smoked at someone in anger and the only loser is yourself really. On reflection smoking at someone is a stupid thing to do.

Absolutely, I can get worked up sometimes, especially when quitting. Have been thinking about getting some books on meditation etc, as maybe I need to fix this part first.

I did buy the "little book of calm", but I swallowed it by accident.

smoked at someone in anger

squidlord are you ready to quit though? I went through a couple of years of resenting smoking then the trying to quit and giving up after using an event as an excuse 'I'm just too stressed at work' (had a hard day/feel like I need a reward to 'relax').

One good thing that helped was we worked 4 floors away from a smoke and I found that I could stretch from having a couple smoked on the way to work and then on the way home at the end of the day. That made me realise that I really didn't crave it when it came to the hassle of smoking.

If your not ready- don't quit yet. You have to loathe smoking, hate feeling shitty in the morning, smelling, having to go out of your way to smoke.

Try cutting down first- gradual and to say buy a packet of 10 then have two smokes a day max.

I thought getting drunk would make me give in. Surprised when it didn't.

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I do. Smoking is only "nice" when you're not doing it. If that makes any sense. Work & travel etc will keep me off the bike for a couple of weeks. Think I will quit again when I have the chance to cycle more. This should keep me motivated - the improvement in performance comes very quickly in my experience. Cos I smoke loads... 🙁

Sounds like Craving/withdrawal.

Good luck with stopping the smokes Squidlord 🙂

I was like hora when I stopped as I had grown to hate everything about it including myself for smoking.

Most people are grumpy when they give, but my wife actually remarked to me that my mood improved and on reflection I think it was because I was happy with myself for not smoking.

I really don't know if there is any fact in this but I read somewhere that Vit.C helps leech nicotine out of you asap (the think that prolongs craving/the pain by removing you thinking about it?).

Anyone I developed quite a crush on fresh orange juice and oranges for a while.....

Interview with the Tobacco Association spokeswoman on the news tonight and the whining melon-head tried saying it'd drive shops out of business and cost of 'hiding them' away...

300,000 teenagers take up smoking every year thinking they are rebelling and cool. Then when they are hooked/addicted they become 'customers'. Doing 'nothing' isn't going to help anyone. So the bint needs to trip over and hurt herself IMO.

Each to their own i say!! If we could still ride our bikes and do enjoyable things when we reach 100yr old instead of pooing & peeing ourselves then id say smoking carn't be a good thing but fact is is life's gunna suck when we get to that age & we carn't go for a ride or run or walk so if you want the odd fag go for it just make sure you punish yourself with a ride out in the good old fresh air after. Nature will takes its course in the end smoker or not!!!

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..........to beat Hora round the head until he STFU ! 😐