[Closed] Smokers in the kids playpark!

Cough Loudly.
Sigh.
Tut a bit.

That's what I'd probably do. 🙂

Bet his car is parked on a zig-zag too 😡

This is outside yes?

FFS!

Bet his car is parked on a zig-zag too

Where, where? I've got my camera ready. 😀

Fisticuffs with a 50 year old? It's more likely that he'll call his crew to do you over.

jekkyl - What exactly is offending you?

Is it exposing the children to the poisons from his fag?

Or is it smoking in front of children will encourage them to smoke in the future?

Personally I think it is none of your business and would hope the bloke would tell you to **** off if you said anything.

Do nothing, and mind your own bloody business!!!!!

Fart in his general direction.

The smell mostly & his general selfishness exposing everyone to the disgusting stench.

When i challenged a guy about this - also grandparent about this age - he replied , in front of all the children - dont be so ****ing soft

He was pushing the child from the front on a swing with the fag in hos mouth exhaling in their face.

I enquired what was soft about not wanting lung cancer or to exhale into a childs face....I did resist saying wont you think of the children 😀

you will never guess his next reply!!*

Away at the fence I have no real issue but near my kids and I am not a happy bunny.

Its is one of those, like the parking, if someone is as daft as do this they are unlikely to respond to reason as this thread [s]will no doubt show.[/s] EDIT :is already showing.

* I left at this point and another parent came and removed his fag and it got ugly. They have made them all non smoking recently in my area.

relax and have another can of stella..it's what I do in the playpark 😉

Mind your own business mate. It's outside ffs. Stop being such a nosey git.

If you left how do you know that last sentence is true?

illegal in this neck of the Australian woods - large signs in all play areas mean that folks find it harder to argue the toss - of course like all "no smoking" signs they are optional for social retards

Shouldn't you be giving your 3 yr old your full attention rather than typing away on phone tablet etc

I'm fairly sure the play areas around here also have no smoking signs. Personally I'd go for option C though - is just about perfect.

exposing everyone to the disgusting stench.

Are you nostrils really that sensitive?

How do you cope with multi-storey car park stair wells?

London in the summer when the drains are getting a bit smelly?

Driving past a pig farm?

Some sensitive souls on STW!

D. Can of White Lightening then pee on his leg

I'm curious which people on this thread are smokers? Any other contributors care to comment?

Non-smoker

Some sensitive souls on STW!

and way too old to actually play in the playground still or have to ask an older kid to buy fags for us?

Shouldn't you be giving your 3 yr old your full attention rather than typing away on phone tablet etc

Got kids? Personally I find mine quite happy to play by themselves a lot of the time in the park - and I sit around without much to do.

He was pushing the child from the front on a swing with the fag in hos mouth exhaling in their face

Junkyard that takes some doing! Considering the kid is moving with a constant flow of air over their face, not sure how the smoke would go into their face? How do you push a child from the front without pushing them off the swing?

If you left how do you know that last sentence is true?

I don't think many of his sentences are true, sounds like he has exaggerated/made up the tale to me.

Non-smoker

Op, when walking past a pub at any particular town on any particular day you will see many people huddled outside enjoying their nicotine fix.
Do you cross the road when you encounter these reprobates?
Do you get your kid to start your fights?
Do you say nothing and complain on forums?

Junkyard that takes some doing! Considering the kid is moving with a constant flow of air over their face, not sure how the smoke would go into their face? How do you push a child from the front without pushing them off the swing?

Are you thick?

Are you thick?

No.

I am suggesting you are an internet keyboard warrior who would never say anything to anyone in that manner and that your anecdote is a fabrication.

Stairwells/outside pubs/London, I might reasonably expect these places to smell bad and I chose or otherwise to go there. I don't think I should reasonably expect people smoking fags in playgrounds.

I bet someone has there engine running in the car park near the seesaw. Inconsiderate bastard.

Smoking a fag in a park. FFS Jekyll.

My anecdote?

Its not my anecdote. You are suggesting that it is impossible to push a kid from the front on a swing without pushing them off, so I, quite reasonably, asked if you were thick.

Your response has answered my question. Thank you. Have a great day licking the windows clean in your house.

I don't think I should reasonably expect people smoking fags in playgrounds.

Why not?

Apart from you finding the smell offensive what harm is it doing?

My anecdote?

Its not my anecdote. You are suggesting that it is impossible to push a kid from the front on a swing without pushing them off, so I, quite reasonably, asked if you were thick.

Your response has answered my question. Thank you. Have a great day licking the windows clean in your house.

Fair enough I didn't read the author.

I must be thick then as I still can't see how it works?However, I have no recent experience of childrens playgrounds but when I was a child I cannot remember getting a push from someone standing in front of me. Which part of the child do you push from the front? Genuine question.

Typically their legs/feet, though if they're of an age to need pushing (and appreciate pushing from in front) then they're likely in a caged swing, and you just push the swing. I'm not sure you've thought this through very well, as how do you push from behind without pushing them off the swing, and how is it different? Push mine from the front all the time.

Additional survey question: how old are your kids (ie how recent experience do you have)?

non-smoker
7 and 4

Given the very well known damage caused by passive smoking it's pretty anti-social behaviour...

I don't quite get the "mind your own business" angle - the guy's basically waving poison around and making other people breath it in. That kind of is everyone else's business

Fundamentally it's just a shame he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to understand the effect his habit has on other people and wait to have a fag at a later moment...

fisticuffs with a Neanderthal

Judgemental much?

I can't believe how many people think it's okay to smoke in a playpark full of babies and toddlers, it's gross.

I've witnessed this before too, and always considered that it's not cricket.

However, a short exposure like this in an open space isn't likely to do them any long term harm is it? They're probably more likely to suffer the effects on the lungs from diesel particulates from passing cars on the walk to the park.

Non-smoker - 8&11 year old

Given the very well known damage caused by passive smoking it's pretty anti-social behaviour...

I don't quite get the "mind your own business" angle - the guy's basically waving poison around and making other people breath it in. That kind of is everyone else's business

Passive smoking in the open, moving air, are you serious? How is anyone going to inhale any significant quantity, if any, of smoke and posion in that environment.

Should we be banning charcoal BBQ's? What about bonfires? Lots of kids there. What about the risk from an open coal fire?

Personally, I think smoking is ridiculous, that a parent or grandparent that smokes in front of their children is not setting a good example but it is none of my business if they choose to do so.

Yeah, the bloke's obviously a bit thick for setting a bad example in front of the sprogs, but ffs op, wind yer neck in. It's outdoors, no-one will die* (apart from the bloke). Everyone's so morally outraged at everything. You'd never know we live on a crowded little island and we need to make an effort to get along.

*We'll all die. So make the most of it.

Yours,

Morally outraged. (Ex smoker. Non-breeder)

Junkyard that takes some doing! Considering the kid is moving with a constant flow of air over their face, not sure how the smoke would go into their face? How do you push a child from the front without pushing them off the swing?

I suspect for you it probably does but hey let me try and explain.
1. as they reach you you exhale in their face facing them whilst barely pushing them as they are about 18 months old and moving say a a foot at most back and forth.
2. Its a small childs seat they sit in with the back rest/foot holes type - not even someone as clumsy as you could push them off.

I am suggesting you are an internet keyboard warrior who would never say anything to anyone in that manner and that your anecdote is a fabrication.

I am sure you speak like this to everyone you meet as you are most definitely not a cowardy custard with limited social skills who uses the anonymity of the internet to let their inner **** out enabling you to hide behind a keyboard being mean to folk in order to get a reaction - your so brave , wise and well just awesome ....swoons

Step three on trolling is you deny you are a troll in as rude a manner as possible.......can you resist replying...I doubt it

SPW

Sanctimonious Prick World.

Do you ever consider the kids who work in horrendous conditions so you can have your cycling gloves, shorts fleece etc.?

we need to make an effort to get along

i think part of that effort is not smoking in front of folks children in a childrens play area. It is a big open space go find somewhere to smoke where no GAS. They dont care whether you smoke or not they care where yuo smoke and whether it impacts on them and their kids......its not that difficult to comprehend

Imagine weeing - i dont care where you do it but if you do it too near to me I will say something.

As i said originally it is pointless trying to explain this to folk as you need to be pretty unsympathetic/ dim to not realise how others will react to you smoking.

It's not good but if you confronted him do you really think he'd step back and say ," you've made a very valid point and from this point on I shall reevaluate my life and act in accordance with your wishes" .
No one on this website has said that and I can't imagine anyone would in real life.

Do you ever consider the kids who work in horrendous conditions so you can have your cycling gloves, shorts fleece etc.

It is always a daft point to say oh look there is something worse - its not even a defence its an unrelated fact.

i think part of that effort is not smoking in front of folks children in a childrens play area.

Totally agree, but some people are stupid. Live and let live.

It just gets on my nerves how hypocritical people are about smoking. Whinge about being exposed to cigarette smoke but say nothing about being exposed to petrol fumes, cheap aftershave, visually/aurally offensive children/dogs etc.

lol@ visually offensive children. & yes I hate the stench of cheap aftershave too!
Anyway, the kids has been dumped at gramps house and I'm off out on 2 wheels in this glorious sunshine & I suggest you all do the same. Toodle Pip.

Me non smoker Mrs crafty one when she's had a tipple but never near our kids.
Makes my piss boil when kids with smokers in a car.
Outside, don't really care.
He's hardly injecting the child with crack!!

Step three on trolling is you deny you are a troll in as rude a manner as possible.......can you resist replying...I doubt it

Of course I can't resist replying.

No I am not a troll, can't see why you would think it.

Your posts now make you one of 2 things :

1) You are, as I said earlier, a liar and a internet warrior

or

2)The sort of sanctimonious little prick who thinks he can approach complete strangers and correct them on their behaviour, as it offends you for some reason and is a completely imagined health threat to their children.

Imagine weeing - i dont care where you do it but if you do it too near to me I will say something.

What has that got to do with smoking a cigarette outside?

Is the reply rude enough for you?

Does anybody else remember this advert?

Is it me, or does Superman sound a bit, well, Russian?!!

Smoker.
Wouldn't dream of lighting up in a kids park.
I tend to avoid smoking in front of children altogether.

Currently in a playpark, a middle 50s gentleman with a large tum & a cane lights up a fag whilst pushing his grandchild on the swings, do I
A. Say something and risk crossed words & possibly fisticuffs with a Neanderthal.
B. Be British, say nothing & walk to other side of playpark.
C. Get my 3yr old daughter to shout 'smokers stink' at the top of her voice.

D Recognise that is legal, none of my business, and in the open air unlikely to cause any measurable harm.

Move to Blackpool - I understand they've banned it in playgrounds there.

Yes, but in Blackpool it's compulsory to drink a bottle of WKD blue at all times while in a park. That might do them more harm than the passive smoking. And if the kids are over 6 they 'll be needing their first tattoo. And that'll probably hurt. Actually... It might not if they've had enough WKD blue

I think if you lack the social awareness not to smoke in a kids play area then I would be within my rights to insist you put it out or leave if my child wants to play nearby, like on the next swing in the op's example.

Bad as Blackpool may be binners it's a town built on those desperate to get out of Manchester for a week every year!

And he'd be quite within his rights to tell you to **** off. And then you may hit some type of critical mass of beinq offended, and your head might explode

Dave - Blackpool is indeed a northern nirvana. I love the place! 🙂

This is outside yes?

FFS!

And he'd be quite within his rights to tell you to **** off.

Think these just about sum it up 🙄

Bedwettertrackworld is slacking a bit here actually, by usual standards. Nobody has suggested involving the police, the environmental health and having social services take the kids into care yet?

This place I'd going to the dogs!

Whilst his behaviour is terrible you did the right thing by posting on the forum. Always embarrassing for a child to have to watch a wheezy old man kicking their dads ass.

Do you ever consider the kids who work in horrendous conditions so you can have your cycling gloves, shorts fleece etc.?

This.

Everyone is a hypocrite these days, we're all against war and violence but we definitely want to hang on to our cars and iphones regardless of the human cost.

wind your neck in op.

but for a little balance.. i wouldn't smoke a joint in a play area.

As it would have no passive effects, would it be acceptable for me to inject cider into my eyeballs in a play area?

Then I can go and shout at buses

Good god. It's outside. Get a life and stop being such a busybody.

Strange, STW doesn't allow direct links to the Daily Mail, but the threads read more and more like that rag every day.....

And he'd be quite within his rights to tell you to **** off.

Fair enough, he could. Many people have when I've got involved before.

although the last time I had a go at someone in a public park they were shooting up, which is part of the reason I moved last september.

I'm going to call the National Council For Civil Liberties to get their views on this issue. 🙂

NCCL.....but THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!

Unbelievable preciousness about kids and perceived health threats.

Smoking in the open air within one metre of a child? That's it, the kid's had it.
And he's seen his grandad doing it? Jeez, doesn't he realise that all kids want to copy old men, they're so cool.

Ridiculous nonsense.

Agree with Op.
Smoker.
No kids.

Amongst the many anti smoking warnings on fag and baccy packets there is one which reads "Protect children, don't make them breathe your smoke." If you watch TV you will have seen an advert that shows the range smoke can travel to and its effectiveness at causing harm even if you can't see or smell it. Children especially so as they have underdeveloped lungs and generally aren't as big and tough as me (deffos) and you (possibly 😉 ). Just because they're outside doesn't mean the smoke won't get into their lungs, it's just not sat there going in and out repeatedly like it would in an enclosed environment. If you can smell it, it's definitely harming you, maybe only a bit, but so what? Would you let someone pull a strand of your hair out? It's just one strand, it's not going to do much, but if every inconsiderate bastard in the world did it then you'd be bald.

Edit- don't reckon i'd say owt though (guess I'm not that big or tough either 😳 )

I would have no problem if play areas were made no smoking - in fact it's a great idea.

But the fact is, they are not, and as a non smoker, I can't get too wound up about someone smoking near kids in the outside air. Three reasons:

1) I have a sense of perspective. There are probably just as many risks from other particulates in the air, germs all over the place etc, so in the scale of things, a few wisps of fag smoke are just part of life's rich tapestry.

2) I was brought up around various extended family members who smoked before it became a major health concern. None have died before the age of 75, none have died from lung cancer, I personally appear to have survived the experience thus far. It increases the risks of premature death, but so does crossing the road.

3) The real concern should be about the granddad smoking in front of the kid in his car, or in the house, ie in confined areas.

This thread and all posts contained therein are a waste of binary.

D) drink a cup of tea, get your cock out and start pissing, occasionaly splashing on his clothes and face.

Passive agressive tea drinking.

Think of all the damage that those tannins will do. The horror!

It is a bit out of order smoking in close proximity to children, whether it's outside or not, I imagine it's just the starting pistols who don't see this as a problem!

I don't believe anyone here would agree that smoking in front of kids is acceptable.
Ban it in public places they will will only smoke in the car and house.
Perfect.

I don't believe anyone here would agree that smoking in front of kids is acceptable.
Ban it in public places they will will only smoke in the car and house.
Perfect.

It's simply wrong smoking around kids, full stop.

Cheers,
Jamie, non smoker who woke up to the foul stench of half a dozen fags every morning until I left home at 21.

Ban it in public places they will will only smoke in the car and house.

2) I was brought up around various extended family members who smoked before it became a major health concern. None have died before the age of 75, none have died from lung cancer, I personally appear to have survived the experience thus far. It increases the risks of premature death, but so does crossing the road.

So your family has lucky genes. Well done you. My aunt died of lung cancer at 61 (her sister, mum, who has never smoked as far as I know is 83 and counting).

Actually, I too took our little 'un to the play park earlier today and there was a group of, how to put it, not the most desirable members of society, who took to the bench to roll their own. They at least had the good grace to leave the fenced off area to smoke them, shouting to a 5 year to look after 4 other younger siblings!

Cheers,
Jamie

I was brought up around various extended family members who smoked before it became a major health concern. None have died before the age of 75, none have died from lung cancer

Good for you, my Father died of lung cancer at the age of 40, I was 2. But thats hardly relevant to the thread.