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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30896813 ]Fancy a little gentertainment through your Sky broadband? Best let them know your predilections in advance.....[/url]


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 8:35 pm
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I reckon this is a ploy by the govt/ISPs to bring back hedge porn.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 8:40 pm
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State interception of Internet traffic, bans on cryptography, and now state-sanctioned censorship of Internet access.

I think Cameron spent a bit too much time in China.

But think of the children. And the terrorists. It's for your own good citizen. Now bend over and try to relax.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 8:45 pm
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Now bend over and try to relax.

Careful, talk like that will have this site censored, you filthy beast.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 8:55 pm
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> State interception of Internet traffic, bans on cryptography, and now state-sanctioned censorship of Internet access.

So called extreme porn had been banned recently also, another one to add to the list it seems.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:10 pm
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Sounds a bit hypocritical to me, considering their TV package clearly shows grot TV readily available to those prepared to subscribe to it


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:15 pm
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readily available to those prepared to subscribe to it

Isn't this the same thing, though? If you're prepared to "subscribe" to flogging on via Sky, knock [s]one[/s] yerself out!


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:16 pm
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Tor browser FTW


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:37 pm
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Isn't this the same thing, though?

I don't think so. If you open up the TV Guide, it starts on "All Channels". Move to the next menu to the left - "Favourites". Go one further and your on the "Adult Channels" page.

<tin foil hat on>
They're beaming grot into your house, all you have to do is pay for it to be decrypted. But if you want it on your interweb, you can't have it. Not for free, anyway. And I guess there's the rub...


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:48 pm
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If you open up the TV Guide, it starts on "All Channels". Move to the next menu to the left - "Favourites". Go one further and your on the "Adult Channels" page.

Did a friend who's done that often tell you that? 🙂

On TV you'd have to pay for decryption, on teh interwebz you'd have to say, "Can I have some grumble please, Mr Sky?".


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:50 pm
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Heh, no 😳 doesn't take much to go one menu too far to the left

Actually that reminds me. "favourites" used to be the yellow button. Now the yellow button is "Local Channels" of which there is only one. Bit of an annoying waste of a button really


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:53 pm
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I had no landline for a year and used vodafones 3G dongle thingy which came with filtered for adult content as default. Fine, no problem I thought until about 25-30% of the links from here ended up blocked as a result. It filters more than grot.

Well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.... 😉


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 9:57 pm
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Yeah I remember my mobile operator bring in an OptIn for grumble.
Think it was O2 or Orange. Had to fill out a form saying "I'm a grown man and I'd like grumble please"

Didn't cost anything mind you, but probably hit me added to some kind of watch list.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 10:02 pm
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[i]I think Cameron spent a bit too much time in China.[/i]

Or he got caught by Samantha on XHamster?


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 10:08 pm
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Think it was O2 or Orange. Had to fill out a form saying "I'm a grown man and I'd like grumble please"

I didn't even know such a thing existed on my phone until last time I got a new one. Lovely girl in the shop (EE in Salisbury) loudly and cheerfully proclaimed, "Oh, I see you haven't opted in to the adult content! Let me do that for you now. Makes it much better when you want to get online".

Mrs CFH stood beside me and raised an eyebrow. I said nothing.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 10:11 pm
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and now state-sanctioned censorship of Internet access

Not quite.

Sky Broadband Shield is optional, you don't have to have it.

If you say you want it, then it comes with some default settings.

If you don't want those default settings then you change them.

It's not even news (unless you twist it to make people think it's something that its not)


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 10:12 pm
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This could be an interesting conversation with my straight-laced female landlady / flat mate....


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 11:21 pm
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only if she clicks to view some bloke called bjorn throwing ropes across a lucky lady's face, surely, or catches you in some porn vortex, i suppose, passed out with trousers round your ankles on the living room floor, surrounded by tummy wipes?
mere speculation on my part.


 
Posted : 20/01/2015 11:49 pm
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Being a pious sort I told the receptionist at Travelodge i hoped the porn channel in my room was disabled.

"No, it's regular porn you sick bastard."


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 8:18 am
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Sky Broadband Shield is optional, you don't have to have it.
If you say you want it, then it comes with some default settings.

It's optional yes, but from the sounds of the article it is now on by default for everyone. If they implement that like some other ISPs have done then you'll have to call up or fill out a form to get it switched off. Which is a total mood killer.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 11:28 am
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Makes it feel more sordid, just what I was after! Sign me up


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 11:44 am
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from the sounds of the article it is now on by default for everyone.

from the sounds of the article it's as clear as mud.

"What we're doing now is simply making sure that the automatic position of Sky Broadband Shield is the safest one for all - that's 'on', unless customers choose otherwise," [Sky's brand director] said.

But then in the next paragraph,

In the next few weeks Sky customers who have not chosen to either activate or disable its Broadband Shield would be emailed "giving them the opportunity to make a decision one way or the other", she said.

... which is an entirely different situation. If you're not using the filter, they're going to ask whether you want it. Unless they're going to treat a failure to respond as opting in, I suppose.

I'll be opting out, anyway. Nothing to do with grot, I just wouldn't trust Sky to filter a cup of tea.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 12:00 pm
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It's all propoganda from Murdoch, a bit like no Page 3, all done for PR to try and rebuild the Murdoch brand post phone hacking and journalists who are still being convicted as we speak. You can opt back in or get a VPN and watch what you want.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 12:40 pm
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So does that mean as I have already declined sky shield I will be emailed asking if I want it again or I will be given it anyway and then have to change the settings?


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 12:40 pm
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It filters more than grot
is it called the s****horpe problem?
iirc our BT box/broadband recently said "we want to invoke filtering will you let us? yes/no", can't remember specific wording whether it was opt out or not, took the grumble option anyway not really into the censorship thing,


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 12:50 pm
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is it called the s****horpe problem?

Don't think so, more that if a site has 'some' adult content then it could be blocked. For example, Flickr has grot on it if you change you search filter settings (I have a photo called 'knobs' which seems to get regular traffic, they must be disappointed as it's of a knobbly boulder in Fontainebleau) but they block the site anyway kind of thing. It was 5 years ago and I forget what sites were problematic, but it wasn't just obvious, porn ones


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 1:00 pm
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Yep, quite a lot of grot on photoblog sites like tumblr, but plenty of "normal" family-friendly stuff too.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 1:03 pm
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I wonder if these filters are written by the same outfit who do the supermarket substitution software.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 1:25 pm
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same outfit who do the supermarket substitution software
goggle
google
google
was not aware of this, some fun subs going on 🙂


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 1:58 pm
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I see the Torygraph has an opinion piece asking [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11328438/Is-it-time-for-state-approved-porn-in-the-UK.html ]"Is it time for state approved porn in the UK?"[/url] 😯


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 5:59 pm
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> I see the Torygraph has an opinion piece asking "Is it time for state approved porn in the UK?"

* cough * http://davidcamerporn.tumblr.com/ * cough *

Don't click at work :p


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 6:07 pm
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It's optional yes, but from the sounds of the article it is now on by default for everyone

No. The product itself (Shy Broadband Shield) is optional.

If you tell Sky that you want to enable it (your choice) then it will be enabled.

When it's enabled, it comes with the grot filter set to "on" by default.

If you want to change it to "off", then you change it (you don't need to ask anyone, you just change it)

Really can't see why people think this is a problem.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 7:42 pm
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I'm one for no filtering. I don't want anyone controlling what I can or can't do. I have nothing to hide but I also know, these types of filters are bother pointless/easy to step around and inconsistent.

It's does little more to protect todays children from porn than finding grumble in the bushes or nicking from the top shelf back in the 80's. The stuff is everywhere and any tech savvy, pubescent boy will be able to get round an ISP filter.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 7:44 pm
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I'm one for no filtering. I don't want anyone controlling what I can or can't do

Turn the bloody filter off then !

Nobody is "controlling what you can or can't do"

They have just changed a default (user controllable) setting on an optional product.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 7:48 pm
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Turn the bloody filter off then !

Nobody is "controlling what you can or can't do"

They have just changed a default (user controllable) setting on an optional product.

'Tis off. 🙂

I was only remarking how frustrating it is that companies, government etc. feel they can dictate to the masses what they think is the right thing for all. It does work.


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 7:58 pm
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how frustrating it is that companies, government etc. feel they can dictate to the masses what they think is the right thing for all. It does work.

I agree that is frustrating......when it happens.

Not happening with Sky Broadband though obviously 😉


 
Posted : 21/01/2015 8:57 pm

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