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Even though I don't read them ever time I pass a news stand or see a headline in a Google search my blood boils. The Romanian invasion headline frenzy at the moment takes it to a new low, I sincerely hope that other countries do not see our headlines or at least see them with a pinch of salt, it's an embarrassment.
Tabloids shouldn't be allowed to be called newspapers, gossip papers maybe.
No linking to any of offending websites, please.
In seriousness, is there any other kind of press?
I don't read newspapers, but my OH gets the Grauniad occasionally. It seems about the best of a bad bunch. We got the Times by accident the other day (asked for a paper in a hotel and that's what they delivered), and even they were at it. I read two "outrageous" feature headlines on inside pages, both of which turned out to be outright fabrications if you read the article.
Ah, this was one of them.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3955278.ece
Headline: "Austerity forces Greece to dump mental patients out on the street"
Body text (emphasis mine): "Hundreds of mental patients, including serial killers, [b]could[/b] be back on the streets of Greece soon as the country’s main psychiatric hospitals close because of the financial crisis."
So the story here is, a hospital is closing and they've not yet announced where the patients will go. The headline could as easily have read "Greece to send mental patients to the moon" and have been as accurate.
It's not just the gutter press, though they are particularly appalling.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rolf-dobelli
Most of them are no better than comics these days. Though less entertaining.
The sooner people stop buying newspapers the better.
They're mostly garbage that some people, unfortunately, just lap up.
To some extent it's nothing new, but they've just become parodies now.
Yes, agree, its utter garbage
Just spent a week staying with my 72 year old father who is a life long Express reader
Its his only form of news which he reads and he repeats its content verbatim - which is incredibly frustrating, telling me that all Romanians are scum and should be shot
I explained how i have 2 Romanians working for me and that they are probably my best workers - but he wouldn't have it - he still thinks that all Romanians are gypsies and that they'll rob us all blind
The Mirror is just as bad, but is 90% 'celebrity' or football news. How can this be classed as news?
The Mail - well - what utter shite
Sun/Star? utter crap
Times - just a posher version of the sun without the tits
The BBC has gone to shite as well - i thought it was meant to be non-political?
The Guardian for me - but even that it taken with a pinch of salt
who is a life long Express reader.........Its his only form of news which he reads and he repeats its content verbatim
Bet you are sick of the daily updates on the unfolding Princess Di story?
i have taken to watching al jazeera for the news. i get the impression they are trying to relay what happened, not putting the slant that the other media appear to, particularly regarding israel and Palestine for example.
my folks are staying are trying to read the mail website at me, I just reply with "I Don't believe it's true" and they get confused...
BBC, ABC (oz) and SBS for me really
Spot on cougar. It's the need to create sensational headlines that is the more pressing modern problem (especially to invent 24 hour news). Look at how many threads start here on the basis of a headline - when the actual article says something quite different.
In the internet age, newspapers are getting desperate.
This lot are particularly bad for it...
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Don't get me started.
I went to Waitrose this morning and hey - guess what!? It wasn't full of The Poor drinking free coffee!
Idiots.
This lot are particularly bad for it...
Their punctuation needs some work as well.
This is why I no longer read the news from any source, it's almost universally bilge. There's sod all I can do about 99.9999% of the contents so I just get on with my life.
Kind of related, but there's an advert on TV just now which goes along the lines "for every bad reported / perpetrated, many more good things are happening". Its a really nice way to think when you see these headlines - shame the last words on the advert are "...a coke".
This is why I no longer read the news from any source, it's almost universally bilge. There's sod all I can do about 99.9999% of the contents so I just get on with my life.
It's one of the reasons I read Twitter / STW / Mono. I figure I can let other people read the news for me, filter out the shite, and then pass on anything that's worth knowing.
Bet you are sick of the daily updates on the unfolding Princess Di story?
You bet i am
What is worse is the column inches still dedicated to the missing McGann girl
Its still in the Express every 2nd day!
wallop - Member
Don't get me started.I went to Waitrose this morning and hey - guess what!? It wasn't full of The Poor drinking free coffee!
Idiots.
No our Waitrose has an endless queue of pensioners at there free coffee machine. Scroungers - they don't even work 😉
My parents views are pretty moderate so god knows why the read the Mail. I think it was sneaking a guilty peak at their copy on Sunday that has built up my need to do a rantette.
I get The Week which is good for getting a cross section of news from different papers especially from other countries.
If I want to read a proper paper The Independent is the only one I'll get.
With the power cuts on Christmas Eve (and longer) the free coffee stand at our local Waitrose WAS mobbed!!!!
But don't you have to have a W'rose card to benefit???
I laughed today when some woman. calling into the Jeremy Vile show, said the country was over populated.
She knew this because she could no longer get a parking space at the Waitrose in Wokingham 🙂
[quote=teamhurtmore said]With the power cuts on Christmas Eve (and longer) the free coffee stand at our local Waitrose WAS mobbed!!!!
But don't you have to have a W'rose card to benefit???
It's a free card and yes, you need that for the free coffee. Also gets you a free newspaper if you spend a fiver or more.
Had a nice latte this morning chez Waitrose 🙂
My parents views are pretty moderate so god knows why the read the Mail.
I collared my mum about that recently. She said she only got it for the crossword.
cheers_drive - Member
My parents views are pretty moderate so god knows why the read the Mail.
Are they passive aggressive?
Do they sometime disappear from the house without telling you?
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It's the non news that does my head in, celebrity crap, endless speculation instead of reporting facts, no holding of politicians to account. I don't care if some z listed is cheating on their other half, that's a private relationship problem, not ****ing news. Go and find some real crime or corruption if you think you are an investigative journalist!
But the Matt cartoons on the front page of the Torygraph are fantastic.
Matt always seems to get it right. Have learned most about bankers from the Alex cartoon.
For a right wing paper, Matt is deliciously subversive.
Hate the lot. Guardian definitely included.
As a subscriber, Private Eye seem to get the right balance for me 🙂
Drives me mad whenever I go round the old dears. I've threatened to stop taking the kids round as she use the "P" word whenever talking about anyone Asian. She really upset me once whilst showing a photo of a trip up Snowdon I did with some work colleagues, one of whom is Seikh, & she used the "P" word. I don't think she is actually racist but reading the Mail just seems to make her worse. Utter utter crap & the sooner this shite dies out the better.
I thought the Express only had one headline " Britain heading for a Full On Ice Age this Winter!" I only get the Torygraph for the motoring section on a Saturday and even that is giving way to adds for bloody cruises.
I don't buy a paper and now I'm listening to internet radio I have no idea what is going on.
It's rather pleasant.
Sadly, the press are only writing what they know sells - filth, trash fear and hate etc.
one of the worst things is the mail website - full of stories about 'celebs' doing things they should not - but at the same time printing titilating pics which is just as bad as the 'filth' they are moaning about.
at a push i would go for the indie... or private eye
Al Jazeera is just a different slant, not slant-free.
Al Jazeera, you may want to look at the owners and question the "slant" from there.
Same goes for [s]putin[/s] Russia Today
well its 30 minutes into 2014 and Ive yet to be robbed, molested or witnessed any swan killings yet
turns out that the right wing press and nigel farage [u]were[/u] full of shit
Aw nothing like the paranoia of a sad lefty, Nige has em on the run it seems 🙂
It's the non news that does my head in, celebrity crap, endless speculation instead of reporting facts, no holding of politicians to account. I don't care if some z listed is cheating on their other half, that's a private relationship problem, not **** news. Go and find some real crime or corruption if you think you are an investigative journalist!
yes I find the BBC "news" output including the various trolling phone in's really frustrating
some of Al Jazeera's output is OK, just watch other stuff to balance, Fox and Russia Today are just extremes of a spectrum
no reporting is unbiased, from the reported/ reporter upwards there is a bias/ agenda
whatever people think of the papers, they are the ones who "broke" the expenses scandal in British politics so the Telegraph gets my cash when I buy a paper
Aw nothing like the paranoia of a sad lefty
definition of a reactionary: a lefty who's had their iphone pinched by [i]insert social group here[/i] and wants to know why the police haven't locked them all up/ deported them 😉
Sorry I like Aljazeera. The first time I watched it was the Japanese Tsunami. Very unsensational reporting.
Biased middle east/African reporting? I think its the subject matter that literally shoots themselves in the foot.
Rolling news kills me... It does work, sometimes, for massive events but the rest of the time it's just speculation, scab-picking, nobody-interviewing misery-porn designed to spread fear and misinformation.
"Biased middle east/African reporting? I think its the subject matter that literally shoots themselves in the foot."
Huh?
Sorry I like Aljazeera. The first time I watched it was the Japanese Tsunami. Very unsensational reporting
Nothing wrong with that either. But if it's a balanced world view your after you still need to think critically. Of both the news sources and your current opinions on global affairs.
Just because you believe one news provider to be better than another, doesn't actually mean that it is.
Unless it's the Mail, obviously. When it's all bllx.
Rolling news kills me... It does work, sometimes, for massive events but the rest of the time it's just speculation, scab-picking, nobody-interviewing misery-porn designed to spread fear and misinformation.
Didn't know 'Better Together' had a rolling news channel?
i quite enjoy the daily-racist. always good for a laugh, the "Sick paedos in our midst" in between the "slender sexual 14 year olds in skimpy pants". The "labour are communists" under the "Kimye just spent $10,0000 on a handbag, worship her you slags"
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Didn't know 'Better Together' had a rolling news channel?
It's called the BBC
All news outlets have some form of bias/perspective because the output comes from people and organisations that each have their own set of values. It is up to the viewer to use their own brain to seek the real truth, free of any slant.
For example a thread on here about a bloke who jumped in a river after his dog had very diverse opinions expressed some of which were right up there with the Daily Wail.
If you like/dislike dogs/bikes/TOWIE you will generally stand for/against them when expressing your view. Yes, some people actually like reading about orange people from Essex that fix glitter to their lady gardens.
Eh? Glitter?
Interested! Where??? Is that bejazzled'ing?
"For example a thread on here about a bloke who jumped in a river after his dog had very diverse opinions expressed some of which were right up there with the Daily Wail."
What is the Daily Mail's position on dogs in rivers?
Fodder.
[i]and then pass on anything that's [s]worth knowing[/s] aligned to my own views.[/i]
HTH
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What is the Daily Mail's position on dogs in rivers?
Probably causes cancer.
I don't understand how so many folk who profess to have a hatred of the Wail also seem to have a surprisingly intimate knowledge of its content!
Surely it is pretty simple? I don't read the wail and use kittenblock to avoid accidentally clicking on refs but I do know:
Diana: good
Non-southern-English: bad
Everything causes cancer
Everything doesn't cause cancer that did last week.
House prices are due to Labour who have destroyed the country.
Everyone outside of the UK is killing each other desperate to get to us for our £10,000,000 per week lavish benefits.
Paedophiles bad
Pictures of 14 year old girls with little on: good
Celebrities who have put on weight/lost weight/got a new frock/got new trousers/had an affair/walked in public.
hate hate whinge hate etc. etc.
Its easy enough to pick up on all that by not reading it, and occasionally seeing the front pages in the shops.
As Campbell said: "The worst of Britain posing to be the best."
Immigration and the EU freedom of movement policy is a real issue.
What is the Daily Mail's position on dogs in rivers?
Depends what colour.
Immigration and the EU freedom of movement policy is a real issue.
Perhaps, but the coverage of it is still disgraceful.
Immigration and the EU freedom of movement policy is a real issue.
Please tell us how it has affected your life.
'Schumacher's agent Sabine Kehm urged journalists to respect the 44-year-old German's privacy after security guards said they intercepted a reporter disguised as a priest trying to get into Schumacher's room.'
Scumbag.
@grum - personally negatively, increased levels of crime (car stolen by eastern european living in a hostel) and begging (acosted twice in London on boxing day with standrad beggar with baby in pram). Dodgy unskilled tradesmen (not directoy by me as i refuse to use them but friends had major issue with unskilled work in contravention of uk building regs). Uninsured vehicles and diabolical driving (eastern European delivery drives constantly driving wrong way down one way street knowing full well they won't get points/prosecuted on their licenses and parking illegally as no "tow away" in my town and they aren't going to trace a parking ticket from a foreign registered car)
All our taxes are going to be higher due to increased levels of unemployment. The Labour movement has commented today our labour laws don't protect the low paid from untra cheap eastern European workers undercutting current low uk pay levels. More unemployment and/or tax credits.
I'm pretty liberal/socialist in my politics but I'll be voting for an en exit as soon as I get a chance.
@grum - personally negatively, increased levels of crime (car stolen by eastern european living in a hostel) and begging (acosted twice in London on boxing day with standrad beggar with baby in pram). Dodgy unskilled tradesmen (not directoy by me as i refuse to use them but friends had major issue with unskilled work in contravention of uk building regs). Uninsured vehicles and diabolical driving (eastern European delivery drives constantly driving wrong way down one way street knowing full well they won't get points/prosecuted on their licenses and parking illegally as no "tow away" in my town and they aren't going to trace a parking ticket from a foreign registered car)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
I've been a victim of crime by non-immigrants, experienced dodgy cowboy tradesmen that weren't immigrants, seen begging, dodgy driving and anti-social behaviour by non-immigrants. Should I conclude that there is a problem with anyone who's not an immigrant?
On the other hand the area where I used to work has seen significantly lower levels of crime and anti-social behaviour since there was an influx of Poles. Most of them work long hours unlike quite a few of the 'indigenous' population.
All our taxes are going to be higher due to increased levels of unemployment. The Labour movement has commented today our labour laws don't protect the low paid from untra cheap eastern European workers undercutting current low uk pay levels. More unemployment and/or tax credits.
There may be some truth to this bit, but lots of British people benefit from freedom of movement within the EU - are you saying they should all come home, or do we just want to have our cake and eat it?