[Closed] Should we have a special tag for "The Big Hitters"?

Holy mother of god, 'big hitters?' where you all picked on at school and secretly craved to be popular?

Anyone who considers themselves a 'big hitter' needs a slap. Anyone who talks about other people being 'big hitters' need to take their nose out of said persons arse.

And now for a video of video of a cat talking in tongues.

I propose "Whales" for the big hitters, the rest of us with our heads in our hands can be the "Petunias"

Anyone who considers themselves a 'big hitter' needs a slap

no one considers themselves a big hitter.
It is a title conveyed upon them by a damp greek monk for services to tossery.

Anyone who considers themselves a 'big hitter' needs a slap

Big Slappers

The big hitters love the attention I reckon, especially the Edinburgh based ones

No DJ, they are just "right". OK?

Are you from edinburgh??

big hitters? big bedwetters more like.

Personally - I think the whole "big hitters" thing terribly sad. Why someone (cynic al? ) felt it necessary to start this and why others think it pertinent escapes me. Whats it all about? feelings of inadequacy? I don't get it - especially when its most often used by prolific trolls / posters

I don't get it

obviously not.

TJ, please look at your forum posting history, especially on any thread over two pages long. Then see if you "get it".
Then, turn off your interwebz and read a nice book or something.

DJ, alas not. Which is why I am seldom right.

What I don't get is the need to ridicule that some folk seem to have. why the urge to put others down al the time?

Its a nasty attitude that I don't understand the motivation for.

Dramatic Irony, anyone?

Its a nasty attitude that I don't understand the motivation for.

Mirror?

Crikey do the Edinburgh set have any self awarenes!

dear god I hope not
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Why some of you feel this need to be unpleasant in this manner is beyond me. I find it quite sad that grown men should resort to behaving like this

you did have an ironic smile when you posted that?
didn't you?........

No ironic smile - I do not behave like this, I find the motivation of those that do incomprehensible especially when the term is often used by prolific and argumentative posters

I know I argue a lot, I know I infuriate sometimes and I do sometimes insult folk in retaliation.

I do not have this need to go around putting people down in such a childish manner

As for self-awareness - some of the posters here are so lacking in this its untrue. I am aware of how I come over sometimes, are you guys really unaware of how petty and childish this "big hitters" nonsense looks especially when used by prolific trolls?

however CFHs advice is reasonable as I can feel myself getting dragged in to a pointless debate. Leave you to it

Again, thwarted by Jandem Teremy! 😡

I am supprised that you are so offended that a group of opinionated prolific posters, of which there are many, some of whome semi police the forum, are nicknamed big hitters!

Flounce(for 10 minutes)

Offended? takes an awful lot more than that to offend me. I just find it childish and sad and I don't understand the motivations behind it.

[b]TJ. [/b] Let it lie. You cannot argue people into agreeing with you. I know, I've tried repeatedly. . People will think what they think of you and others. Arguing with them will not change their minds, not arguing might just.

Anyway, people here are lightweights. I got involved in an argument on another forum where someone posted over 100 times in one thread on the merits of red string as an avalanche safety measure, despite clear proof he was wrong.

Maybe some people feel that nothing they say can get past certain individuals without some form of critique or attempts to warp the conversation to the agenda of the more prolific, prejudiced and opinionated forum members.

Maybe hitting back is the only way they can gauge and rally the support of 'normal' forumites. You know, people for whom this is a place to have a laugh and connect with like minded souls, people who don't need the validation they percieve in bullying less determined contributors.

I was going to write a very dramatic 'you know who you are' but in truth, you really have no ****ing idea.

Then, turn off your interwebz and read a nice book or something.

Why don't you set an example by doing just that, then?

Why some of you get so worked up by TJ? You Silly Billies.

As for the abusive comments and ad hominem attacks on TJ; it's cos most of you aren't capable of engaging in and debate with him at a sufficiently intellectual level, and thus end up feeling somewhat inadequate so you resort to nastiness in order to try to feel better about yourself by putting someone else down. Pathetic. Why not just disagree? Why all the snidey comments and cowardly tagging? Is that really the best you can do? Sadly, for some of you, I fear it probably is.

TBH most of those on this thread having a pop at TJ are guilty of silliness and nonsense themselves. At least TJ has some modicum of self-awareness. A quality many of youse would do well to acquire...

And before you start I'm right and you're rong and that's the end of it so shut up.

THREAD CLOSED.

Thread implodes up own cockney ****er arse.

Probably should walk away, but...

*IF* you are going to state that people are *WRONG*, for example:

- People who don't believe taxing petrol is the *ONLY* solution
- How about people who have faith in God
- People who dare to believe that if you ride on the roads then you should follow the rules of the road

*IF* you are going to rant on without conceding that another's point of view may be valid then of course you are going to wind people up. The vast majority of posters, even the other "Big Hitters" 🙄 , will occasionally admit that a contrasting opinion may have value. There is onle one who is always right.

Probably should walk away, but...

*IF* you are going to state that people are *WRONG*, for example:

- People who don't believe taxing petrol is the *ONLY* solution
- How about people who have faith in God
- People who dare to believe that if you ride on the roads then you should follow the rules of the road

You see coyote - I have never said any of those things that you accuse me of. Look on the petrol thread and try to find me saying people are wrong and only I am right and taxing petrol is the only solution. I asked for others to provide their solutions and was quite prepared to listen and debated with those who did.

I often admit to error and that other points of view have validity

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Ta!

As for the abusive comments and ad hominem attacks on TJ; it's cos most of you aren't capable of engaging in and debate with him at a sufficiently intellectual level, and thus end up feeling somewhat inadequate

well he is a big hitter you know, somebody to look up to.
a impregnable bastion of reason and intellect in the sea of misinformation and confusion that is STW.

Could it actually be that TJ is in fact the world's best troll ? He's been taking bites on here for years 🙂

too much self belief and not enough introspection, unlike Hora who is king of the trolls 🙄

What I don't get is the need to ridicule that some folk seem to have. why the urge to put others down al the time?
Its a nasty attitude that I don't understand the motivation for.

It's a combination of envy and spite. But accidentally and revealingly humourous. I instinctively like people with a lot to say, it makes a change from the timid and boring.

I've never heard of any of you.

every time elfin stands up for Tj i tend to vom the contents of my guts all over my keyboard. 😐

Why don't you pay attention. Elfin CLEARLY stated that the thread has closed!! I mean really, SOME PEOPLE!!!!!! !!!

!!!!! !

Aye, 3 pages and it's turned into the usual drivel.

What's next? 😀

TandemJeremy - Member

Barnsley mitch - its all about your point of view - the posts I find patronising and offensive you will not.

I thought I had made it clear I was trolling at least in part but I find ALL religious views contemptible, ridiculous and offensive. If you express them you will find the piss taken from you.

I think there is no place for religion in the 21st century. The whole practice of religion is absolutely abhorrent to me. So keep quiet about it or face the ridicule

Yup, that's tolerance right there. If your views differ from mine I will ridicule you till you shut up.

😯

*changes opinion on TJ for the worse*

🙁

This thread has just turned into a piece of ironic, post-modern genius....

Hasn't it? Please tell me it has. This is a knowing, and willfully self-parodying ironic send up, isn't it?

Oh dear! I guess that squeaking sound is the noise of someone being hoist by their own petard...

I can almost hear the fat lady warming up for teh Edinburgh defence aria...

A pair of urine-filled SPDs?

Wowsers..

TJ in a belligerent mood..

"shocked"

Not.

"shrugs"

To be fair to TJ...

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/jesus-christ/page/2#post-1861927

I'll agree that it's not a very nice post and unsuprisingly it does show him to be intolerant of other views but read the thread as it goes on and IMO, it makes TJ's position clearer and rather more akin to the position taken in any kind of political debate by many who'll no doubt line up with the lynch mob at this point - eg if you don't agree with my view on X then you are scum/stupid/etc - eg lazy demonising of people.

In summary, it's poor behaviour but no worse than the usual pathetic name calling that goes on in most of the politial threads. That intolerance is what drags the forum down and for me at least is what the 'big hitters' thing is all about.

I can almost hear the fat lady warming up for teh Edinburgh defence aria...

I still have to work here you know! A little warning before such gems would be most appreciated. 😆

It's all gone quiet over there...

Tandemjermey wrote

I often admit to error and that other points of view have validity

This. I shouldnt bite but I do. Lately more than is healthy.

I think TJ has gone quiet because he was a bit winded after being pushed off his high horse by coyote up there.

i hope he stays off it ( along with the rest of you)

BOOM... coyote lands a massive right, its all over, KO in the 4th

It's this, isn't it?

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nowt wrong with TJs view on religion- have you seen what Whoppit writes? Should we just let the religious preach an intolerant messages about gays, condom use etc and yet we cant say your invisible sky fairy account is a load of nonesense and then mock them.
Might have worded a bit nicer tbh

Should we just let the religious preach an intolerant messages about gays, condom use etc

I dont remember seeing any of that on STW.

I also have no issue with Atheism despite being a Christian. I don't mind that Woppit and TJ's dislike some Christian doctrine - heck, I don't like some of it myself.

It's their vocal intolerance, the patronising and strident insults that bother me. BTW. GW is exactly the same on the topic of bikes and riding 🙂 [b]Big-hitter syndrome[/b].

I think these people imagine they hold some sort of moral high-ground on certain topics and that this excuses their [b]terrible forum manners[/b]. I don't feel the need to ram my ideology down people's throats or insult the intelligence of people I disagree with; neither should they.

+1 and well said buzz. The only zealots on here happen to be athiests.

I hope for my own sake that isnt a trend.

TandemJeremy - Member
What I don't get is the need to ridicule that some folk seem to have. why the urge to put others down al the time?

Its a nasty attitude that I don't understand the motivation for.

hopefully there is a mirror on your christmas present list 🙂

I think there is no place for religion in the 21st century. The whole practice of religion is absolutely abhorrent to me. So keep quiet about it or face the ridicule

oops.... no presents then 😉

This is great..! It's like a little sanctity of peace and reasonableness in this thread now.

:wonders:

😯 Is this what the forum could actually be like, without the so-called bigsh*tters fouling the place up? 😯

Reading onto this page I feel like I've moved into the eye of the hurricane. All round the storm is gathering fury..

Hello - been out riding my bike. Nice bit of old school riding

So much said about me that is wrong. Some of you really need to hold that mirror up to yourselves. The amount of vitriol directed my way is not funny and as for "ramming ideology down the throat" - there are far worse than me at this.

I think these people imagine they hold some sort of moral high-ground on certain topics

Really - there is a very nasty spiteful and sad tendency on here that does far more damage to the forum than a bit of dogmatic arguing.

As for insult - I get far more thrown my way that I ever dish out.

really you guys - what a nasty sad bunch some of you are.

oh go do a flounce you self-absorbed ball of sock fluff.

TJ - i wouldn't exactly class myself as somebody on this forum who argues or insults you... usually quite like your input on certain threads (apart from the threads i avoid)

but...

I thought I had made it clear I was trolling at least in part but [b]I find ALL religious views contemptible, ridiculous and offensive. If you express them you will find the piss taken from you[/b].

I think there is no place for religion in the 21st century. The whole practice of religion is absolutely abhorrent to me. [b]So keep quiet about it or face the ridicule[/b]

have you considered users on here might find your judgement of people on here abhorrent... and in the same way your post that's been quoted suggests you think its ok to mock people with different beliefs to you, they think its ok to mock you?

just a thought...

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I struggle with long sentences

Could someone give me a summary of the story so far please?

Big hitters dispute the existence of big hitters, ironically proving their existence through relentless tenacious defense of their denial.

Lots of bored lonely frustrated insecure people spouting off about nothing of any real consequence, tbh Cougar.

Like, you din't already know that anyway. 😆

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...

Is her last name Taylor?

Like, you din't already know that anyway.

I thought we might've broke with tradition. Silly me.

(-:

Phil - there is context to that statement - I think clubber mentioned it and IIRC also an apology from me at some point for it.

Just have a look at the unpleasant vitriol directed my way - several examples on this thread.

Blinkin ek, this thread looks a bit like the "down stairsers" are fighting the "upstairsers" or some sort of rebellion in the underclass's..

Witty, funny, pitch forks at sundown, phah..

I promote a white flag of peace, group hugs, forgiveness and acceptance.

Methinkie they've got the hint now.

People don't remember the apologies TJ, people remember the feeling of being told what to think and that they're wrong.

Have we decided on the special tag yet?

Came across this picture earlier - for some reason it made me think of the attempts to battle TJ on this thread...

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Truth is though, some people on here need to be told what to think, as their own ideas are rubbish, and if they're told they are wrong, it's probbly cos they actually are. 😀

*watches the Big Hitters at play like Attenborough watches the Walruses*

This is all great stuff, when am I going to catch you guys mating?

Junkyard - Member
nowt wrong with TJs view on religion- have you seen what Whoppit writes?

What about it?

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Have we decided on the special tag yet? [/i]

it's a link to this thread, I think.