[Closed] Should we get a cat?

A catflap also needs to go backwards.

Do you want a cat?

We personally love them and they give loads back really. We lost one last year, the other still going strong at 18.

Just remember, the cat owns you, not the other way around.

We had a couple of rescue cats - they were great, though came with their own odd personalities.

It's great having the shamelessly mercenary little bastards in your life!!

Hora - come over to ours and we'll nip up to [url= http://www.bleakholt.org/cats-available-for-adoption.html ]Bleakholt Animal Sanctuary[/url] and have a look at the rescue cats. That's where ours came from. But remember.... you don't choose a cat. They choose you.

Yes..
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All hail our feline overlords..

Binners we still need that night ride too

No, they're tiresome, one of our worst decisions. I'd pay to have someone take them away!

Just a counterpoint to the above, the man asked.

18! Sigh.

What about a rabbit?

Get a rescue cat, then you can choose a cuddly one/pair rather than a cute kitten that turns into a bivvying adventurer that you only see once every three days or refuses to jump on your lap.

And invest in a microchip catflap (rescue cats will normally be microchipped). It means the wailing/standoffs and territorial spraying remain outside and you don't end up with scented curtains from cats trying to mark their territory!

(rabbits are more demanding, you can't really set up a cat feeder for a long weekend, and they can be a bit much for the average neighbour due to worries about them escaping (or in our case, the growling/lunging one of ours makes when you put your hand in the hutch))

As above get a rescue cat, mircochipped cat flap....and insurance. We had to claim £3k of vet bills within a month of getting our cats.

Had a thread on here just before we got ours
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/tell-me-about-owning-a-cat

He has been great fun, although a bit bitey! 🙂

Are you planning to let it roam free to kill everything and shit everywhere?

If so then no, get a guinea-pig

Awaits Hora's secondhand pussy classifieds listing

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No.

Get a dog.

3k vets bills?!!

If you have small children be aware of the cat attacking them.My neice still has a faint scar below her eye when the cat attacked her in her cot.
I wouldn't risk it.

Get two kittens.. Keep each other amused

Cats are great! This is ours & she is the soppiest,most affectionate thing.

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No I'd happily replace our three with three more Burmese pythons or boas. I feel safer round the snakes.
Horrible, vicious,ginger bastards.

Why do you want one?

3k vets bills?!!

One of mine got hit by a car. Fractured pelvis and dislocated hip. Needed surgery. 3k is our insurance limit, so we picked a surgery option that got us down to that. He's all fine now, and charging around like nothing has happened.

In my opinion male cats are more affectionate but are more likely to fight and even ones that have been done still bloody fight like ours did for the first 12 yrs. Find a cheap vet who can stitch them up and administer a good dose of anti biotics. Did I mention male ones spray to mark territory. I hated that !
Our female cat never fought but good god could she hunt! Mice pigeons rabbits moles Koy Carp and garden birds to name but a few. Not as affectionate as the male but still enjoyed a cuddle till she had had enough then she'd take your arm off! I miss them both but not the hunting and destroying furniture and spraying! Our Son formed a very strong bond with Oscar our male cat and they were thick as thieves together.
I don't agree with keeping cats inside, they will hunt and also have to take their chances with traffic etc but any Cat I believe would take that over being kept in 24/7!
Get a kitten if possible they are just the funniest things and you'll remember them being lovely and fluffy as they tear your house to bits and destroy the wildlife around your house as they get older.

yes.

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he will be waiting for you to come home:

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house cat but allowed in the garden during daylight - doesn't go next door as fences are high and scared himself not being able to get back. Craps only in his box and no mess or smell as we feed him on decent food (raw or high meat content).

Main hassle is he wants play a lot, can get a little tetchy if he doesn't get it.

Just remeber camera phones and tablet computers where made just so women can show everyone with an intrest pictures of their cat or baby.

Heres my cat

It's a British Blue love in!
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Adore cats, will be the first thing I get sorted when/if I get my own place 🙂

Actually have a cat at the moment but she lives with my parents as finding rented flats that allow and are suitable for them is very hard. She's 19 now and was 2 when I got her as a pair of rescues after having a long succession of Pedigree Colourpoints.
Pedigrees don't live anywhere near as long as moggies. Our oldest pedigree was 10, our youngest went at 7 but he was a show/breeding quality one who we let roam outdoors. The face of the breeder when I said he'd be allowed out in the fields was hilarious 8)
Don't get hung up on boy/girl though, every cat is different. Go see a breeder/rescue place and you'll know which cat to get as they'll choose you.

TurnerGuy - I hate you, he's amazing 😀

Definitely always supervise a pet around infant and small children. We always did.

zippykona - Member
If you have small children be aware of the cat attacking them.My neice still has a faint scar below her eye when the cat attacked her in her cot.
I wouldn't risk it.

Balancing the above though, ours used to stand guard over ours when they were babies. If a visitor approached baby in his/her seat, he would march up and down in front of them. If another cat entered the garden when they were playing - woe betide that cat.

He was very affectionate and not at all aloof. He was specially loving and very, very patient with the children.

turnerguy. I am very jealous!

Try fostering first. You'll get to experience different cat types and not have any big responsibilities (like bills). Also, you can take tham back when you want to go away for a month.

Two cats (that get on ok together) will be happy enough indoors.

Think long and hard about it. They are easier to keep than dogs, but still take some looking after.
We had a rescue cat previously that died about four years ago. We think she was poisoned.

We currently have 2 cats and once they have popped their clogs I don't think we'll have any more.

One is quite timid and needy, jumps on your lap at every opportunity which would be fine apart from the fact she seems to struggle retracting her claws completely so every bit of clothing she settles on ends up snagged and pulled.
She has also scratched up the furniture and attacks the carpet on the stairs to the point that we regularly have to clear up balls of shredded carpet material from the stairs.

The other is a lot less bother, but is a rampant hunter. He brings in mice, birds of all shape and sizes up to large wood pigeon and his favourite prey are squirrels.
He brings them in dead and/or alive in various states of bloody mess.
We used to have a garden teeming with wildlife but not a lot dares to enter any more.

A house isn't a home without a cat.

From getting these two it now takes 4 times longer to make the bed ( and there's generally at least one cat in it at the end ) but it is much more fun.

We got a pair of rescue kittens from the local Blue Cross, brilliant family members...

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OP
[b]No[/b],don't get a cat.
You have some history on here of being cruel to cats and cat owners.
I can't be arsed to dig back through all your posts, but unless it was made up, you know exactly what I mean.

How about one of theses?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35310200

Yes, cats are cool.

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BSHB here.

Another standard STW Issue British Blue, in answer to the OP's question it's a yes.

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Most of this will ring true for the Cat aficionado's here.
(5 and counting...)

More British Blue love in, we have four now!
(Bought two kittens and then last year was asked if we could "help" rehome another two.

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Very good natured and chilled cats!

CHB - how have your British Blues taken to having other cats moved in ?

The existing cats have been fine. We had a few weeks where they re-established boundaries, but now they broadly get along fine. The big fluffy one just sleeps on the bed all day and struts around like a drugged up Joanna Lumley. The other new one (sat on the cushion) is a bit nervous, but is an absolute gannet for food. He hates being picked up, but loves to sit on a lap! Higgins (emerging from suitcase) we got as a kitten from Claraby Cats and he is just a big bumbling oaf, but soft as anything.

Remember to get a cat carrier

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I miss my cats a lot now they're gone.

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Here's a picture of one and one pretending to be a cat.

Cats are ace

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hora - Member
Should we get a cat?

Male or female? I was thinking avoid pedigrees? Any tips? Keep indoors first then catflap etc going forward?

My rule of thumb:

1. Male
2. No balls (neutered if you wish)
3. Square face or big head (like them that way so when I pat them I feel good)
4. Short fur
5. Pedigree or not does not matter so long as you love the cat and it loves you back.
6. De-worm them from time to time.

Ours were always indoor or within the compound of our house. They know we did not want them to go beyond that. If they ventured into neighbours' yard we called them back ... they then slowly walked back like a pussy cat taking their sweet time when called but grumbled a bit (ours did) because we spoiled their outings. 😛

struts around like a drugged up Joanna Lumley

🙂

Ours doesn't like being picked up a lot, isn't too good at making it obvious he wants food and is then not very patient and wanders off before you have got his food ready, and doesn't sit on your lap unless the wife is wearing her fleece dressing gown. Sleeps on the bed every night though.

Whether cat or dog or whatever, always go to the local rescue, they aren't highly strung or the vet bill fest and you don't have to pay thousands to a person who makes a living out of generating animals that we already have an oversupply of

I had a feral one around the farm buildings for months. Used to sleep on top of the hay but would run a mile if you approached. I used to talk gently to it whenever I was down there and she eventually became a bit less scared. Eventually I was able to get close enough to give her a saucer of milk (honest) and she came and drank it and followed me to the house for more. After that she came indoors and didn't go out all winter. She is a really beautiful character, gentle and kind and will sit next to you for hours. But she doesn't like to be picked up or handled. She is definitely MY cat, though she does tolerate Mrsfarmer too

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Check out you lit with your posh cats! I've got a runt moggy and it's a complete idiot.

Cats are the best. I love cats. Here is my current cat, Marsha, in a box:

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She's a dopey old mog. She likes attacking my wife's head when she's trying to get to sleep, and she's not really one for sitting on laps, although she can sometimes be persuaded to sit on me for a few minutes. She once got stuck up a chimney. Cat haters who worry about cats murdering all the local wildlife will be pleased to know that Marsha is just about capable of catching earthworms, but anything with an internal skeleton and functioning reflexes is way beyond her skills.

I don't know if Hora should get a cat, but if everyone else could just carry on posting pics of their cats that would be great. 😀

Ours. Also a rescue. Again she's not an overly affectionate thing that wants to sit on your lap at every opportunity but the kids love her.

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....and this is the dopey one from next door who thinks that this is the easiest way to catch birds..

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@mintimperial... ours is called Marsha too 🙂

We have 3 adults (stray ones that come and go as they wish and make our home theirs) and 3 kittens now.

My parents feed them and let them be to give them all the freedom they need. No restriction whatsoever.

They are non-aggressive and let us pat them as we don't like aggressive ones regardless of the cuteness ... if they are aggressive we kick them out instantly.

Want us to feed you then bow, submit and know your place pussies!

We have rescued many dogs and cats in the past from dog or cat catchers. If they are caught they would be bludgeoned to death. It is the first blow to the head that you see the animal spinning in agony as it's head split opened.

Cat haters who worry about cats murdering all the local wildlife

Don't just dismiss it as cat haters. I worry about it and I grew up with a cat. My parents still have him, he's nearly 19 and he's great. Fortunately he doesn't go outside any more, but he used to bring a few things back.

Studies have shown that owners underestimate their cat's predation rate, typically by three times, and that cats in the UK kill hundreds of millions of small animals every year. The effect this has on other animal and bird life isn't clear, but a lot of bird populations are in decline. I wouldn't get my own cat.

We have a rescue cat. We have no insurance and have maybe had £300 worth of vet bills over 11 years (the trick is to find a vet that cares for animals rather than one who buys a new Audi every 18 months; seriously, there are a lot of practices out there that trade big time on the british sentimentality about animals). If our cat get seriously ill then, well, he's had a really good life with us and I'm not spending £2k so he can get another 6 months of life.

Depends if you live near or on a busy road. We lost one cat at age 15 to traffic, got two males to replace her, a year later they both. Got run over within a fortnight of each other.

Their replacement is now 18 and doesn't even like going outside.

Cat haters who worry about cats murdering all the local wildlife

You can teach the cat not to harm wildlife. We did.

However, the stubborn ones will still do it occasionally but if we yell at them, then they would stop and pretend to do something else ... 🙄

Don't just dismiss it as cat haters. I worry about it and I grew up with a cat. My parents still have him, he's nearly 19 and he's great. Fortunately he doesn't go outside any more, but he used to bring a few things back.

Studies have shown that owners underestimate their cat's predation rate, typically by three times, and that cats in the UK kill hundreds of millions of small animals every year. The effect this has on other animal and bird life isn't clear, but a lot of bird populations are in decline. I wouldn't get my own cat.

Eh. Given that cats have been here for thousands of years and for most of that time weren't fed nice stuff from Mr Whiskas' tins to keep them happy and lazy, or population controlled (other than with a bag, a brick, and a body of water), I suspect that their current effect on the general modern habitat is pretty small relative to what they used to do to small furry things. And yet, there are still shit loads of small furry things for them to catch.

As for population decline in birds, I don't think you can lay that one on cats either. OK, there's been a decline in bird life, but why? There's been no correlated increase in cat populations. Are cats getting more vicious, better at killing birds? Most people's cats don't kill *that* many, even accounting for underestimation. Is there a subset of new super-killer cats picking off thousands of birds every year? Doubt it. I think we'd need to look at, ooh, pesticides killing off food sources, or pollution from motor vehicles perhaps, for a more likely culprit.

Whatevs: cats are ace. La la la. 😛

ours is called Marsha too

Excellent! Our Marsha is named after a) Marsh, the bit of Huddersfield where she came from and b) Marsha Klein from Spaced, "Hello Brian". 🙂

I have something that might sound like a very dumb question. Several posters have had several cats in sequence - so you guys may have the answer.

We had a cat until early last year. We had him for 16 years and frankly he was very much adored. I am not sure if we would ever feel the same about another - and if possible would like to avoid finding out the hard way...

Do/can you love a subsequent cats as much as your first? I know it sounds stupid...

Some of the pictures of the pussies above have menacing look about them ... I doubt I would like to stroke them.

There is a local black and white cat that when I stroke it once it's alright but if I stroke it again it would try to bite me.

What the cat does not know is that I have a way of holding the cat that I can hold it without it even able to bite me i.e. locking it's front leg with one hand and it's mouth is too far to bite.

I know this trick because I played with all my pussies through out my life ... it's one of their weakness. I put them in their place. 😛

jamj1974 - Member
Do/can you love a subsequent cats as much as your first? I know it sounds stupid...

Yes, all of them but there are several that I love very much.

No.......cats are rubbish.
Unless it's a British Blue, in which case, yes because they're more like cuddly bears than cats.
Awesome indeed.

Do/can you love a subsequent cats as much as your first? I know it sounds stupid...

Well, I lost my favourite cat ever last summer. She was the best thing in the world and I loved her to bits, I could bang on about how marvellous she was for ages but I'll spare you. Marsha is great and that but she's not Deeley (I reckon she misses her too).

I've had lots of lovely cats over the years, none of them as ace as Deeley was but I'd still rather have known them too than not. If I get to meet a cat even 1/10 as ace as her in the future I'll be happy. Get another cat! We're totally getting another one at some point soon, oh yes.

We just have a series of 'lost boys' who have turned up and moved in over the years. All real characters and I wouldn't want to have been without them.

Theres been no correlated increase in cat populations

How do you figure that one? There have been two peer reviews studies that I can find that estimate the UK cat population, one in 1989, which put it at 6.2million, and another in 2010 that put it at 10.3million. I'd say that's an increase. Its pretty clear that it's not a remotely natural phenomenon, and the population is way above the number of wildcats that would naturally exist if we weren't keeping domestic cats as pets. You are certainly right that the link between cats and the bird population decline is up for debate, I'd just rather not have a cat in case they are causing the problem.

Also, I posted this in one of the dog threads, it wasn't very popular. I suspect it won't be too popular here, but I found it interesting, and I hope people might give it some consideration before they decide to take on more pets:

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For reference, at the time of the study, the carbon footprint of the average Ethiopian was 0.67ha, and the average citizen of Vietnam 0.76ha.

Johnny Panic - great vid

You should watch a few of these (Simon's Cat) videos before deciding...

...they're more or less like documentaries, just need David Attenborough narrating 😉

The answer of course is yes, cats are mint.

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Apologies for fuzzy shot - was a bit of a opportunist shot yesterday

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This is Timmy. He's ace. He also appears to have found a mouse nest somewhere this week.

I really like cats as individuals - if one is wanting to be friendly I'll reciprocate, but there's *three* cats which shit in my garden *every day*, that's 3 times 365 instances of poo-ing a year.

Cats kill birds and small creatures and can spread toxoplasmosis too, a google on the disease can prove enlightening.

Only get a cat if you really want a cat, but *please* don't let it poo in other people's gardens and kill birds and small animals too. :-/

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TimothyD - Member
Only get a cat if you really want a cat, but *please* don't let it poo in other people's gardens and kill birds and small animals too. :-/

Ours poo in our garden and are forbidden to kills birds but rat is fine.

If you're having to ask on a forum whether you should get a cat I'd say that's a sign you're not ready for one and the commitment they require.

When you are ready for one you'll just know it and then go and get one no matter what anyone else says.

I'm not really sure how you can stop your cat pooing in other peoples gardens. I don't think ours does, but I can't follow the sodding thing about all day, she definately poo's behind a bush in our garden though.

Does anyone else cat follow them when they go for a family walk? It was odd having to carry ours across a stream because she had decided to follow - we now have to lock her up or make the kids run so she gives up and goes home. That cat carrier could be handy 😆

Yes. Here are mine.

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BigEaredBiker - Member
I'm not really sure how you can stop your cat pooing in other peoples gardens. I don't think ours does, but I can't follow the sodding thing about all day, she definately poo's behind a bush in our garden though.

Ours usually poo at the same location within our compound. They knew that's their "toilet" if not then they would poo in the bathroom floor (in Asia that's a hole in the ground for drainage so just pour water to "flush" out the poo).

Does anyone else cat follow them when they go for a family walk?

There used to be an old lady in the Toon here walking her old dog and cat everyday ... rather peaceful to see three of them together. 😀

If I was considering getting a cat, I would definitely be thinking of an outdoor run for it/them. That way it wouldn't get run over, sh#t in other people's gardens or kill any songbirds etc.
They look pretty cool too, like a cat assault course! Out in that in the day, inside at night, sorted!

We found out on Thursday that cats and hamsters don't mix.
Kids think Hamster has gone off to hibernate.

Try fostering first.

+1

This isn't a dig at you, but did you previously give a pet dog up Hora?