I just got a long, rambling, threatening text message out of the blue from my current live in landlord about a missing HDMI cable. (I have moved out though, but I'm still paying for a few more weeks rent as per contract).
Now said moron doesn't have an HMO license and is in clear violation of this. Should I a) Inform him of this and kindly ask him forgo my final 2 weeks of rent. (Is this blackmail?) Or B) Pay him, inform the local council, go round with an HMO officer and then sue him into the ground to the point that he loses the house?
There's a small part of me that is uneasy ethically about it, but the rest of me would be laughing manically all the way to hell if it did go to court and I did actually get all my rent back off him.
I always think people who talk about sueing people positively ooze class.
Are you sure the land lord needs a HMO licence if the land lord lives in the property too?
Yeah well....I never had any.
Yup, I'm sure.
Then why worry what anyone else thinks?
I'm just uneasy because I think I've lost my final shred of conscience.
Do you know what happened to the cable?
Your allowed 2 non related lodgers as a live in land lord before you need an hmo.....- so owner plus 2 is ok...owner plus 3 needs an hmo....
How many of you lodgers were there ?
I assume you've not got his cable?
It is unethical. You owe the rent so have an obligation to pay it. Informing the local council would be vindictive.
Karma will get you.
Rich.
Landlord + 1 unmarried Girlfriend, plus 3 others.
Do you know what happened to the cable?
Yes, but the threatening text from a 'tuff' mockney irritates me. I can't beat him up and shit on his living room floor legally, so, other cards are on the table.
I reckon this will end better if you just let it go.
what length cable.....email me a address and i will send you one f.o.c to sort you problem out.
i sell them for pence.
Cheers Ton, but it's ok. I can mail him one. Thanks for the offer though.
I'm just uneasy because I think I've lost my final shred of conscience.
If you'd lost it, you wouldn't feel uneasy. 😉
I think discussing it with the landlord would be my first port of call, rather than bringing down the heaviest wrath I could find in a vindictive rage.
Just don't pay him, tell him why, walk away.
Not worth anymore energy.
Do you know what happened to the cable?
Normal people ask politely, especially when you've otherwise been a perfect tenant.
Just don't pay him, tell him why, walk away.Not worth anymore energy.
Just to make sure he doesn't chase me for it, I was going to drop in the HMO thing. In what way should I word it, so that it isn't blackmail?
Just grow up and give him the cable back ffs.
Oh he's getting the cable back....
hmmmm depends on the cable............
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable/dp/B003CT08E4
or
It's most definitely the latter, it's a grey microsoft one. Maybe I should forget I have it, until after he's lost the house?
Come on we are talking a HDMI cable here, If it was something petty I would not bother, have you tried contacting the papers yet?
You've stolen his cable...................you sound like a ****er.
So you nicked something from him, he's annoyed and wants it back and you get all upity? Odd.
No, it's going back, I was mostly joking. Took it accidentally with all my cables.
Here's part of the text
If you dont post it bk 2 me I will **** make u come down to london and give it 2 me
I'm mildly amused by it and feel like winding him up some more now. I don't know why someone would do that, I've always been of the opinion that you never know if you're talking to an axe murdering psycopath, so I try to be polite to people at all times.
Ton if you've got one of these for a couple of pence I'll buy it and even pay postage, and send you a beer.
Don't be so childish and give the bloke his cable back.
I presume you were happy enough to move in knowing he didn't have an HMO? He's in the wrong about that clearly but it would be massively dickish to make a fuss about that at this stage. So in answer to the first of your questions I fear that ship has already sailed...
Post him back his cable. Smile, safe in the knowledge that he's obviously quite a tragic character to be so upset over a cable. Live your life without the hassle and undoubted upset and anxiety that going through a spiteful lawsuit will cause just so you can feel satisfied that you got your own back.
If you dont post it bk 2 me I will **** make u come down to london and give it 2 me
It's a chat up line, be flattered 😉
The rents due tomorrow, he just sent a text to my missus saying that if it wasn't paid he'd come round to the house and take it off her. Even though he doesn't know where we now live.
He's goading me into ruining his life! I might bumble down to the police station and file a formal harassment charge for the icing on the cake.
At first I thought you were being a bell end. BUT threatening behaviour like that winds me up, so I'd say **** him over BUT depends if he is all talk or actually a psycho. If I was a psycho and it was your fault I lost my house, I'd probably wear your face as a mask and your testicles and earrings and just drive round london for a couple of hours.
if it wasn't paid he'd come round to the house and take it off her.
I'm not sure that offering to save you the bother of having to post it amounts to harassment.
You sound like a pair of bawbags.
Scientists have yet to invent a device that will measure my indifference to that remark, seosamh.
obviously not so indifferent to it that you wouldn't respond to it, you cable-thieving bawbag
😉
Seosamh + 1.
grow up.hes goading me into ruining his life
He sounds like a bit of a ****. You sound like a particularly immature 19 year old. Meh.
But you stole his cable. And now you choose to get angry when he asks for it back. Guilty as charged 😉
Post it back, but put it in a big envelope with a normal stamp 😈
11pence excess postage + £1 handling fee for him to get it back.
On a more serious note, you both sound like fannies. Him for threatening you and you for thinking you can take someone to the supreme court to sue them for mild distress.
1) post cable to said Bawbag
2) pay rent
3) report harassment to authorities
4) move on and be glad you don't live there anymore
Repeat number 4)
i think you'd both pass the psychopath test.
Have you not got anything better to do?
Yet another thread on STW where the OP comes out looking at least as bad as the object of his ire. Send him his cable and gain a story about the mentalist you lived with once.
I never understand this urge some people have to get even or set people straight. I had a colleague once who was determined to come to his leaving do and give a speech where he told everyone what their flaws were. He was persuaded that people hated him enough already that it could only result in violence so it was best to drop it. He was the only person I've known that didn't attend his own leaving do.
Send cable
Anonymously report HMO
job done
I'm with the OP.
And I can't quite beleive what I'm hearing from the rest of STW.
Taking the side of a LANDLORD !!!
The OP has paid how much to this pillock over the years and now he wants a 2 a penny cable back!!!
Do one ..... but that's all.... forget the the suing and reporting nonsense.
The OP has paid how much to this pillock over the years and now he wants a 2 a penny cable back!!!
He's been paying him for living in the house the Landlord owns. That's how rent works. It's like a mortgage but different
I think the OP is a complete fruitloop
TBH I'm surprised that 12 year old kids are allowed to rent houses.
If the Landlord's only concern is a cable, reckon he's probably done pretty well out of this business arrangment.
Most landlords would love that to be their only worry once a tennet moves out.
Send cableAnonymously report HMO
job done
(and pay the outstanding rent)
Personally, I'd refuse to deal with someone who was unable to form sentences. Seriously, is "to" such a difficult word?
Post him his stupid cable back wedged up the arse of a dead goat and advise him that you'll be taking legal action if he sends you any more threatening missives. Use the word "missive", he'll have to look it up.
[looks up the word missive\]
Have you actually spoken to the landlord and did you end on bad terms or something?
Is your girlfriend involved in the rental agreement in anyway and what does she want you to do?
If you are in the right and you are sure you haven't aggravated any situation (sometimes there are 2 sides to a story :0)
And if your landlord is acting like a thug and you want to stand your ground then do so! (Did you threaten not to pay rent/ have you ever not paid rent?)
Phone and talk about the cable and tell him you are not happy about him implying he is going to steal money from your missus and until a written apology is received you will be holding any further rent (the cable is in the post/ or you will add £10 for a replacement once apology received.)
Keep very calm and explain things in a straightforward manner.
Fight for fairness brother and teach that mo fo a lesson. We wouldn't live in a fair society without soldiers like yourself standing up when these situations arise. This is a call to arms Tom..
[looks up the word missive\]
He spelled massive wrong. He was referring to the landlord sending round some heavies, thugs, bouncers....or [i]massives[/i].
Cut the guy some slack. Sending rambling, faintly threatening text messages is probably the landlord's equivalent of coming on here and ranting about some injustice or other.
Poor bloke has been sharing a house overloaded with all kinds of riff-raff - it has probably worn him down a bit.
Funny one this as we have no idea how you've behaved towards him but given your last few threads you've started you do appear to an angry individual who has very little patience for others. Send him his cable back you 'accidentally' packed, pay the rent you owe him and ask him to stop sending threatening emails. Like others have said it was convenient for you to ignore the HMO thing when you lived there but now it's an issue.
Drac +1
Your parents are 'idots'
The receptionist's a 'lazy whatever it was'
Your employer's 'all up in your grill'
your previous employer was'all up in your grill'
You think old people are parasites
and now your landlords on you as well.
There's one common denominator in all these........
I like this
Sending rambling, faintly threatening text messages is probably the landlord's equivalent of coming on here and ranting about some injustice or other.
And this
Funny one this as we have no idea how you've behaved towards him but given your last few threads you've started you do appear to an angry individual who has very little patience for others.
tomd - Member
Post it back, but put it in a big envelope with a normal stamp
Love it!
sounds like more of a "thank * that *s gone" do. Quality 🙂He was the only person I've known that didn't attend his own leaving do.
Oh and Ton I'll buy a couple cables off you if you can etch Diamond HDMI onto the plugs 🙂
Thanks, I do a good sideline in plots of Machiavellian cunning. The OP should stick to his day job, he can't cut it when it comes to devious revenge plots.
This reminds me of the dog sniffing the bag thread - so many people trying to be smart and yet miss the whole point. It's not about the CABLE, it's about the TEXT MESSAGE. Duh.
But if he hadn't nicked the cable there wouldn't have been a text. DUH.
Plus as Drac says, he certainly has form.
I think the OP is a complete fruitloop
This
TBH I'm surprised that 12 year old kids are allowed to rent houses.
This
Your parents are 'idots'
The receptionist's a 'lazy whatever it was'
Your employer's 'all up in your grill'
your previous employer was'all up in your grill'
You think old people are parasites
and now your landlords on you as well.There's one common denominator in all these........
And most definitely this.
[i]But if he hadn't nicked the cable there wouldn't have been a text[/i]
He didn't nick it, he accidentally took it. If there had been a normal request for it's return, there would have been no thread. Duh.
Do you pay your rent in advance OP, are you already withholding it?
"last few threads you've started you do appear to an angry individual who has very little patience for others"
I'm soooo bored ..... I looked back over our OP previous.
Doesn't have much luck does he
Or is he Woppit in disguise 😆
Should I be a prick...
Maybe a bit late to be asking that?
Your landlord's not called Ben is he?
I had a landlord who was a similarly wepons grade tool. Did phone the council, but he was all upto date on his paperwork, but they did say that they tended to target 'problem' landlords with inspections so he was now on the list at least.
Went back to see a friend we left behind a few weeks later, appeared he'd had a breakdown and left and the house was a much clamer (if not quite so fastideously clean) place as a result.
He didn't nick it, he accidentally took it. If there had been a normal request for it's return, there would have been no thread. Duh.
I suspect there's much more to this tale than the cable.
Two sides to every story (at least)
If it was a different lead, none of this would have scarted.
boom boom....I'm here all week...I thank you !
It may be that he doesn't need an HMO. It is only a national requirement for Large HMOs - to qualify as large, the house should be:
"Living in a shared home – does your landlord need a licence?
Your landlord must have registered your home as an HMO with the council if:
the property is at least 3 storeys high
5 or more unrelated people live in it
there are 2 or more separate households living there."
https://www.gov.uk/private-renting/houses-in-multiple-occupation
To go back to your original question - what do you want out of this? Revenge? Or are you actually trying to pressure him into doing something? It's not clear. If it's revenge you're after, just report him - why would you want him to know it was you? If you're trying to pressure him into something then sure, let him know (but make sure you've checked that he definitely needs an HMO license).
In your position, I would be tempted to respond rashly but it could end up pear-shaped. I think your best approach is a polite letter or email.
Dear X,
I do have your HDMI cable. I am very sorry, I packed it up along with my things by mistake. I have put it in the post, recorded delivery, and it should arrive with you by X date.
With regard to the rent, we have every intention of paying it on the due date.
In both cases I would appreciate it if we could keep things civil; there is no need for you to send threatening text messages to me or my girlfriend.
All the best,
xxx
I mentioned the HMO, he's now leaving me alone. Thanks anyway Dang, also Drac and the other chap who checked my posting history.....you may have a point, but I mostly post for fun. Yes I make some morally dubious and idiotic posts on here sometimes (at least I know it) but I've also made the effort to help some forum members on here when others have been happy to take the micky. Very few of my opinions on here are actually particularly serious. I just enjoy daft threads, lighten up a bit guys.
Thanks anyway chaps. I am posting back the HMO cable today. In the mean time if I've ever actually properly offended any of or you hold a grudge against me because of my views on Israel or whatever, I'd be happy to buy you a beer after a ride and wind you up in person and you can find out what my views actually are.
And I'd like to add that I'm also quite often the first one to apologise on here in threads where someone gets hurt, as I'm sure Drac knows.
And I'd like to reiterate the thanks to ton for offering to send me a cable 🙂
The Edinburgh defence for multiple threads at once? Impressive.
The Edinburgh defence for multiple threads at once? Impressive.
Takes some doing.
(Although I still blame the receptionist)
The receptionist posted me a new card to my office with an apology, after I got semi-fired.
If it was a different lead, none of this would have scarted.
I feel like we're only getting a composite story but to really understand it we'd need to know all the components.
[i]I am posting back the HMO cable today[/i]
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