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I think he will resign once he realises that he has no options other than to resign as PM or go and ask for an extension.
The quicker Johnson goes the less chance there is of support for him rallying.
Nah, I'm going to go with: the longer he stays the more he'll shoot himself in the foot and alienate support. He'll eventually be left with a hard core of far right Brexit ultras which will be fighting the Brexit party for the idiots.
Corbyn doesn't need to do much but he does need to do it right. There's a massive statesmanship vacuum he can move into - I just hope he does.
Poll tracker still has Tories 11 points ahead, but crucially that was before the events of this week. The next published poll will be interesting.
He won't resign, he's a narcissist. He will stay there until he's voted out, and the GE will be sole focus because it validates his narcissism. Which is why he employed the cheating mekon, do deliver a GE win.
Brexit is something to be jettisoned as it's a single point of focus which means it's not him in the spotlight (it's a bigger story than him) - also it forces scrutiny because it's the biggest item so he can't just use bannonist distraction and bluster
I think he will resign once he realises that he has no options other than to resign as PM or go and ask for an extension.
Agree, he's already made it explicit he's never asking for an extension, so if forced to do so he'll have no choice. If he does, won't that leave room for an alternative government rather than a GE?
Molgrips - only if there is a VONC - otherwise the tories simply pick another leader.
He won’t resign, he’s a narcissist. He will stay there until he’s voted out, and the GE will be sole focus because it validates his narcissism. Which is why he employed the cheating mekon, do deliver a GE win.
Agreed, but there's a small chance he'll see asking for an extension as a good way to leave with his morals attached (I'm aware of how ludicrous that sounds, this would be his reasoning not mine) and thus a chance of coming back again in a few years.
He knows that few, if any people get a second shot at the big job, and he must know he's in deep shit at the moment. He may decide leaving becomes damage limitation.
I don't think the Tories will vote him out just now, he's one of the few Tories with enough profile to win an election who hasn't been booted out, or left in the last week.
Johnson has succeeded in bringing the leavers back to the Tory party
Expelling the rebels is what his targets voters want
He's chasing & keeping 1/3rd of the vote but with remain split between SNP/labour libdem he's got a reasonable chance of making it work
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/what-has-been-the-long-term-legacy-of-mays-european-election/
Very frustrating to see thornberry (whom I normally like) tripping over labours Brexit policy on QT- it's exactly why labour can't nail down the remain or leave votes
He knows that few, if any people get a second shot at the big job, and he must know he’s in deep shit at the moment. He may decide leaving becomes damage limitation.
PM BoJo will have to go to the voters to see if those opposition will have a leg to stand on.
For someone so keen to get a deal from the EU, why is blowhard busy posturing and threatening a GE rather than in Brussels to try to secure this deal? If underlings are working round the clock to secure it, where is the news or reports of progress?
'cos he is lying!
where is the news or reports of progress?
latest reports are that his negotiator has made things worse!
latest reports are that his negotiator has made things worse!
By retracting the 'dead in a ditch' thing - the only deal he has proposed so far that has universal support?
You don't want him to resign - as someone pointed out, it would allow him an out. Everybody rushes around doing each others knees in a rush to the top, including the opposition, then Bojo steps over the bodies, announces he 'unresigns' and then you are back where you started except he has a majority and the opposition is in a shambles. No thanks.
Tories now doubling down on the whole Chicken thing....
Dominic Cummings has obviously been reading the "Perchy's big bumper book of Political Pun Propaganda"
PM BoJo will have to go to the voters to see if those opposition will have a leg to stand on.
Not if the opposition won't let him. Oh and how very grown up of the Tories to pull the chicken stunt. They really are pathetic.
Not if the opposition won’t let him.
If he resigns (not as Leader of the tories but as government and PM) and the opposition is unable to come up with a workable coalition and leader, (what are the chances, really?) then he gets his election. The opposition can't stop him asking the Queen to get them to try to form a government and the chances of them avoiding an election if that happens are slim to none
Peak Cummings.
He’s said repeatedly that that’s definitely not going to happen
So, given his usual honesty, that’s exactly what he’ll do on Monday night once he gets knocked back again by Parliament
Could be amusing if he tables a VONC in himself and he loses that too.
Can the Government just resign? That’s a new one on me.
I think he will resign once he realises that he has no options other than to resign as PM or go and ask for an extension.
What would happen if he were to resign at the last possible minute before "the letter" was due? (Say 20th Oct). Could/would the duty of making the request default to someone else, or could there be a no-deal exit while the fallout from the resignation dealt with? (e.g. allowing the 14 day VNC deadline, for a successor to emerge, to pass)
The Borris bounce
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1170117064159350784
Tories 14 short a majority and that doesn't include impact of.Davidson in Scotland and DUP being squeezed by alliance , also Arlene foster has just quit
No way, no way will Boris resign. That is absolutely not what he is about. Resigning infers some semblance of guilt or morality. Not going to even mention a modicum of humility.
He has literally nothing to lose now by carrying on and absolutely everything to gain.
The real concern is that a few months from now he may well be back on the winning side.
Go on, bet me I'm wrong.😟
No. Keep his feet to the fire until the Misconduct in A Public Office charge will stick and bang him up for a long stretch.
also Arlene foster has just quit
What? Where?
Keep his feet to the fire until the Misconduct in A Public Office charge will stick
If only there was a totting up process like driving, or yellow cards in football for persistent misconduct. In isolation maybe none of them are enough but to tell him that's the n-teenth lie he's told now and enough's enough would be tempting.
We'd need a prison big enough for about 650 if that was the case though........
What? Where?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49616134
Not quit, just not planning to try for a seat in Westminster. Still DUP leader.
Resign, he's just playing 4d chess with Corbyn.
Dominic Cummings has obviously been reading the “Perchy’s big bumper book of Political Pun Propaganda”
Not available on Amazon, where can I get a copy?
As far as the ditch comment goes, it’s one place I really would like to see BoJo, preferably in an intimate embrace with dTrump and Cummings...
Resign, he’s just playing 4d chess with Corbyn.
Haha that article is hilariously daft, like fk is the queen going to get drawn into Johnson's desperate attempts to dig himself out of the hole he's dug
funnily enough @tinribz that article proved to be a load of bollox
So.....
At some point are the Tories going to realise that Johnson is really really crap at this?
Utterly delicious day.
Don't get me wrong, it's a bite of sh*t sandwich... As that's all Brexit is.... But today it tasted lovely. For once.
It won't last.
He should resign but won’t. He will manage to dump us out of the EU on October 31. His self-image will remain untarnished to his dying day. The country will suffer but he will do just fine. IMO.
He's doing exactly what he was meant to do - make an absolute hash of things and ultimately ensure that we don't leave the EU. Those of you who think otherwise are living in cloud cuckoo land (and are probably the same STW members who were so sure we were leaving back in April).
JP
He’s doing exactly what he was meant to do – make an absolute hash of things and ultimately ensure that we don’t leave the EU
Couple of questions.
Firstly do you think he is a willing collaborator in this plan or a patsy?
Second who are the masterminds behind it?