[Closed] Shooting in Paris; casualties reported. Hope this isn't what it sounds like.

The 'global Jihad' seems to be gathering pace. Can only be a matter of time before something nasty happens over here again; I think I'll be doing my Christmas shopping on line this year.

BBC news announced it 2 minutes ago.

You posted this 1 minute ago.

Just sayin'.

Sadly I think you're right, It's only a matter of time before something happens here in the uk.

From what it sounds like on the BBC website it doesn't sound good in Paris.

Just read updates on twitter. Man with assault rifle kills many and explosion heard.

At least 4 dead so far.

Just sayin'.

AL Jazeera and rt.com reporting 18 dead gunman still on the loose and bomb explosions outside a football stadium

Don't forget that one of the locations was near the old Chalrie Hebdo offices too.
Poor bastards, RIP.

Eeek, I was in Paris last weekend, enjoying it too.

Jeeze. Very sad.

Awful!

Thoughts with anyone involved. 🙁

hostages taken in a night club and grenades being thrown outside football club match

french tv reporting 26 now dead

Sky news latest: at least 30 dead, some in a reastaurant, most at a gig in a concert hall plus explosions outside the Stade de France where France are playing Germany with the president in attendance.

Apparently there is a hostage aituation at the gig. 🙁

Bad times.

🙁

This is gonna end up really really bad 🙁

Reuters Twitter feed ha photos from restaurant with bodies on the pavement & a police official stating 70-100 hostages at gig & more than 40 dead now.

Not good at all.

This is very grim. Wishes to everyone in paris.

Sympathies to everyone in Paris.

Looking like this will get a lot worse.

#jesuishumain

4th location now - shopping mall at Les Halles.

#jesuishumain

Talk of hostages at an Opera hall?

Any word on motive?

Edit: just seen unconfirmed reports of assailant shouting allahu Akbar as he fired into the crowd.

Horrific news, hopefully no more injuries and deaths and the perpetrators can be apprehended. Thoughts with all those in Paris

Mixed reports about the Eagles of Death Metal concert: some reports saying people have escaped, but I've just read a tweet by someone claiming to be there that (according to my schoolboy French) translates as "they slaughtered everybody".

Grim.

But I love the humanity of #porteouverte

For anyone with loved ones in Paris I hope they're all safe.

Any word on motive?

You have to ask? A coordinated attack in a European capital city on an unprecedented scale resulting in many deaths? I don't think we're going to be staggered when we find out the motive or the ideological persuasion of the perpetrators.

Borders are closed.

So sad.

Tolerance and liberalism to the point of foolishness.

Europe needs to wake up - this is very much the ghost of Christmas future.

The tragic events unfolding this evening in Paris and the evacuation of the French President from a stadium with bombs going off all around is terrible news for La France and the French - but this is a long overdue reality check on the compatability of political Islam with modern democratic secular society.

I asked about motive because while I suspected I didn't know.

I believe Europe needs to deal with the problems presented by Islam, Islamification and the integration of Muslims into the continents broadly secular societies.

The closing of borders is a necessary step only because we've let things progress this far. I agree with both duntstick and just5 above. :/

For gods sake

Once there's a confirmation that this is being perpetrated by Islamists, then you can start victim blaming. Until then keep it decent, eh?

but this is a long overdue reality check

Please lets just show concern for those in harms way and do the analysis after we have know if people are safe
[b]PLEASE lets speculate another day/time/thread.[/b]

then you can start victim blaming.

The victims are not to blame.

🙁

#PorteOuverte is life affirming.

What's sad is the fact that we virtually no longer need to ask what the motive is...

Muslim and Islam are two different things.

And yes what Ourmaninthenorth says.

The victims are not to blame.

My point, CFH.

Best wishes to the French emergency services too. They are going to have a night which will live in the memory for a long time. Bloody good luck to the gendarme hunting these animals, hope you all get home safely to your families.

Looking at the footage on i-télé from Stade de France I reckon about 5% are Muslim, Madame was out this evening and the Muslim proportion about the same. Millions of Muslims, Christians and people of other religions live in France and we all get along just fine. It's a tiny minority of extremists attacking the whole population.

These attacks make conditions for the vast majority of the Islam community worse; suspicion, distrust, discrimination and the threat of revenge are the price peaceful Muslims pay for the actions of the minority.

Just about everyone in the liberal left rounded on the author of this book when it was published 9 years ago - it was described as wildly inflammatory. Now it just looks conservative in its prediction of what might happen in the future of the U.K. and Europe.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Londonistan-Britain-Created-Terror-within/dp/1908096276

Two of the bombings confirmed as suicide bombers

compatability of political Islam with modern democratic secular society

Go on, then, let's hear it.

Oh god. One of the lasting tragedies of this event will be the ammunition it will give to the 'kippers, the 'Britain Fursts' and the worse. Previously socially unacceptable opinions are going to become commonplace, and the polarisation of society will continue. They'll feel newly emboldened to peddle their brand of evil and we'll all suffer. This isn't going to end well. I'm going to bed.

But its such a peaceful religion.

I fear we are in for a huge death toll here, really hope this is not the case, good luck to everyone in Paris

well said edukator

Glad your family are safe

But its such a peaceful religion.

Yes, it is. Islam doesn't make people murderous psychopaths, it's just an excuse.

I've got a horrible feeling this is nowhere near over, and maybe even the start of something worse. Hope I'm wrong.

Sad sad times. So far no bad news personally of Friends and family there. We've been making a lot of phone calls and texts. Have family who love just a street away but where safely indoors

PLEASE lets speculate another day/tihread

It was only a few weeks ago the gunman in the train was foiled. Paris has been full of armed troops since Charlie Ebdo, it's going to be on a war footing now.

A coordinated attack in a European capital city on an unprecedented scale resulting in many deaths?.

Oh shit, 5 explosions near bataclan

But its such a peaceful religion.

We've seen in England how quickly riots spread and the no-go zones in the outskirts of Paris must be bubbling with enthusiasm tonight. This is so grim.

FFS JY get your head out of your arse

I am happy to debate the causes/perpetrators but thought it better if this thread was just to express concern whilst it was ongoing rather than have a personal/ political/religious ding dong in an STW style. Lets keep it classy and not do this basically

I repeat the appeal, with another please.

or of you prefer lets speculate away whilst lives are still at risk and insult each other as we do. What better way is there to show our concern for those at risk than a bicker 😕

Tragic news. 😥

Oh shit, 5 explosions near bataclan

I'm hoping those are flash-bangs.

Leave politics out of this thread please.

Just5minutes, especially you.

The stw holier than thou's are in full swing as you'd predict.
Sometimes if it looks, walks and talks like a murderous bigoted ideology with no place in a modern secular culture thats just what it is. Defending it is as bad as pulling the trigger.

The stw holier than thou's are in full swing as you'd predict.
Sometimes if it looks, walks and talks like a murderous bigoted ideology with no place in a modern secular culture thats just what it is. Defending it is as bad as pulling the trigger.

get a grip sunshine.

Defending it is as bad as pulling the trigger.

Using it to attack an entire religion or race makes you as bad as them.

'Religion' is too narrow a description, but 'race' is just dumb.

'As bad as them' is simply ludicrous.

Using it to attack an entire religion or race makes you as bad as them.

Emotions running high as to be expected. Lets not kick off though eh?

It is a shame that dealing with the problem means that you're a loon National Front Ukiper.

This needs to be addressed sensibly by everyone in society, working towards a common cause and being seen to do so.

Tonight is awful, I hope it gets better in the future

Well at least nobody has blamed the west yet.

French tv reporting incident at Bataclan is "over" 2 terrorists killed.

Ach, I'm not going to argue. Just think about why they've done this. Don't you think they're trying to stir up exactly the kinds of reactions some people on this thread are exhibiting?

Attacking Islam or Muslims for this plays perfectly into their hands.

They're not dealing with the problem though. They're gleefully point scoring based on...?

I suspect those on this thread posting anti-Muslim/Islam comments are baptised. But do you apply the teachings in Leviticus to the letter? I hope not and you'll soon wind up in jail if you do. Some of the verses in the Koran are an incitement to hatred in the same way as the verses in Leviticus but moderate Muslims don't live by them any more than moderate Christians.

The problem lies with those who use religion as a means to build a power base that they then abuse. Call it Islam, Christianity, communism, fascism, national socialism, Scientology or whatever you want. It's just a belief system that's used to push people into doing unto others what they wouldn't find acceptable without the belief system.

I think your 'troll' moniker should be reassigned to someone else.

Bataclan has been stormed. Two jihadists dead but no word on the hostages so fingers crossed.

Two [s]jihadists[/s]attackers dead

Reports that the Calais refugee camp has been set on fire. It just gets more horrific.

Er yeah, whatever votchy.

Zombie apocalypse. Germany [s]should[/s] must be quaking in her boots.

100 more dead, truly terrible.

I was following it on twitter and there was a retweet of a post from someone inside the concert hall who was injured, i stopped reading after that 🙁

Now saying 100 dead at bataclan

Terrible scenes, just dont have the words to express the mixture of anger and despair i feel at the shit that goes on the world sometimes

How many death in total? More than 100?

It's just a waste of time to observe the sleeper cells as they are just going to grow.

Just do it the old fashion ways by making them disappear if they are truly in the process of carrying out atrocity. Deal with that first then let the lawyers argue later on ...