[Closed] shoah - first era. very upsetting viewing

i think most people know enough about the holocaust.
not on my viewing list...sorry.

What ton said why would you want to watch that ?
Seen enough stuff and read enough in history books.

We must never forget what happened but lets look at the horrors around us today and do something about that as we cannot alter the past only learn from it.

Discovery are doing a documentary with an auschwitz survivor talking a couple of girls that are the same age as she was in the camp. It's all the more harrowing when it's being told first hand.

We must never forget what happened but lets look at the horrors around us today and do something about that as we cannot alter the past only learn from it.

I could go along to my local Conservative MP( the only one in Scotland) and give him a piece of my mind, tell him what I think about their foreign policy etc.
He is likely to say something along the clichéd lines of " I here what you are saying" etc, etc...... 🙄

It would seem that "politics" has reverted to "normal" and nothing has been "learnt/learned" from the debacle that was the Scottish referendum 🙄

i think most people know enough about the holocaust.
not on my viewing list...sorry.

You say that but look at the growth of the parties of the right across Europe. Parties who define themselves by pointing out the otherness of different races, religions, nationalities. History repeats itself.

I'm recording the Auschwitz survivors programme on Discovery and Schindler after. Sandwich Jr has asked about it in the past and it would be good to give him some first had information before all the survivors die off. I suspect it will also help refute those the assertion by those on the far right that it is all made up.

I would disagree with the view that people know enough about the holocaust.

World war 2 documentaries and books rarely go into a huge amount of detail as it is such a harrowing subject. Films like Shoah are hugely important as they manage to give first hand views that are rarely shared elsewhere.

I am currently struggling to watch it and may not make my way through both parts, but do feel that i have learnt a lot from it. I also found the Eichman film very interesting.

No. Your warped interpretation of reality is what grates. If you aren't the comedic alter ego of one the regulars on here, then you are a very sad individual.

Annnnd he's gone for a little lie down.

Thanks, Mods.

Have I missed something Capn?

You missed a few "Oh FFS"!

What the Cpt said
thanks Mods
Retires kittens

THM, just JHJ being his/her usual insensitive/conspiracy chasing/idiotic self.

I see...thx

That's gotta be a new low.

I missed what JHJ posted but assume he was spouting off with some bizarre holocaust conspiracy theory BS? Please tell me the moron is banned?

Yeah, then when told to pipe down, got all...

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Plank.

Having had the honour to spend time with this guy [url= http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/VeteranAndrewWiseman.cfm ]Andrew Weisman[/url] whilst doing Long March.
He couldn't handle going to Auschwitz and talking about it anymore after what happened to his own family (he had me welling up). How anyone can deny these atrocities never happened is beyond me.

10 years ago I had dealings with a lovely old guy who was retiring & winding up an architect’s firm in Liverpool, he had loads of drawings & pictures from most of our firm’s buildings over the years. He had some quite bad burn scars to the left side of his face, think Niki Lauda
As thanks for his care in keeping records and such a treasure of drawings I insisted I bought him a meal.
After about an hour of business talk I found out he was a child survivor from Buchenwald and had escaped being shot just before the camp was liberated by the Americans by hiding in a pile of bodies to be burnt before the guards fled.
He was rescued by an American soldier (rank unknown) who somehow got him back to the UK through a British Captain who basically paid for him to be educated here.
He said he never knew who his benefactors were but every day he did his best to live up to their humanity.
By this time I couldn’t speak for the sheer enormity of what he had gone through yet retained no hatred despite losing all of his family in the concentration camps.

I've watched this documentary before - about twenty years ago

There is a section in the second part where they interview a Hungarian member of the Auschwitz sonderkomando about the gassing of the Hungarian Jews and how he walked into the gas chamber with them rather than go on and how they pushed him out and insisted he survive to bare witness.

Pretty much the best and worse of people in one brief piece to camera in a barbers shop in Israel.