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So I reckon this hideous monstrosity is nowhere near original and some sort of art deco 1960s Austin Powers mistake of a fireplace.

Mrs Tiger is not sure of my architectural dating skills.

House was built 1892

I think it should be ripped out as a worthless thing so I can peak STW and put a Woodburner in.

Wadda' we reckon then original or hideous addition..??

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Posted : 13/01/2019 12:17 pm
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I doubt the tiles or surround are anywhere near original, taking those off might reveal more of what it did look like or they removed all the original stuff and fitted those.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 12:20 pm
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IF you don't like it get shot 😉 don't much of the exterior would survive enough to be saleable, could be a nice cast iron one behind it though which might fetch a bit in the right place (or just be as common as fire places from that time)


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 12:24 pm
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I quite like the tiles...

The surround does look a bit odd and flat.

But i'm not an historical expert.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 12:25 pm
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Have you considered the impact on the room with the stove beyond a nice shiny thing and the warmth? To meet refs the slab for it to sit on won’t be small. A few friends have gone stove not really thinking about the impact on furniture in the room and maintaining space to walk between it and stove. Or go for an inset which is not as efficient in terms of heat but easier to live with in many rooms. Obvs my be irrelevant as can’t see the size of the room.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 12:31 pm
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Looks like it could be an original Victorian fireplace with a hideous selection of tiles stuck on the surrounding walls.

Worth scrap.

When we installed a woodburner I looked into selling our old one, but cut it up and put it in a skip in the end as it wasn't worth the hassle.

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Posted : 13/01/2019 12:58 pm
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I love it! Well the tiles anyhow. I’d have that in my house no worries (if I had a fire place of course )..


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 1:02 pm
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Those tiles look in remarkably good condition if they are assumed to have been laid down in 1892. And Victorians always had a proper hearth, not some tiles recessed into the floor.
Was probably a fireplace there originally, maybe tile or maybe cast iron. That may be behing this, but this isn't original.
And that surround? No way is that older than 1970.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 1:02 pm
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Room's big enough I think but good point on the regs. Looks like the hearth needs ton be 30cm in front of the burner door which is pretty similar to the current protrusion.

Think tomorrow I rip it out,,,,,


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 2:30 pm
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I think a friend had this issue and ended up getting a little log burner (Hobbit?) which fitted inside the existing fireplace?
RM.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 2:42 pm
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“Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful.” ― William Morris.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 2:44 pm
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1920's or 30's. Not to bad, someone will like that.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 5:57 pm
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Worth scrap.

Eh, the ones like you pictured are going for around £500 a pop round here.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 6:23 pm
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Barratt Homes
1992


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:06 pm
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We had a decorative cast iron fireplace in our house with the original tiles - put it on eBay for 99p for collection. A Russian property developer paid over £500 for it.

The actual fireplaces in our 1902 house were built for a cast-iron range - the opening is about 3ft wide and 4 foot high with a bricked arch with the decorative ones a later addition. The old kitchen/scullery is bigger. A 2.4KW stove sits flush within the space and only a very small hearth protrusion. We had a small cast iron fire surround in one when we moved-in. When I pulled it away and removed the bricks, there was about 1/2 ton of loose bricks filling the hearth space which fell-out in a cloud of dust - though the house was falling down!

As for the OPs- definitely 20th Century for the tiled surround - how it is constructed and whether it can be removed easily/undamaged is another question. Unless the wooden surround is solid hardwood, it's probably scrap.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:11 pm
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The arch of tiles looks too well done to be anything newer than 1970 imo. May not be to peoples taste but it actually looks pretty well done.

The hearth would not originally have been recessed obviously and the rest of the floor is more offensive to me than the fireplace. Given the right room decoration and furnishings (and floor) that fireplace could look pretty good and fit in nicely.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:14 pm
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oh the surround is pretty bad too. The tiles are the best thing in the photo IMO but they need to shown off correctly. As they are at the moment they don't work.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:16 pm
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Posted : 13/01/2019 7:28 pm
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My 1870 building had a slab level with the floor not a raised hearth. I think a dog grate originally later replaced with a cast iron insert

To the OP I think the tiles and insert may be Victorian but not original. The surround looks modern. Take a bit of paint off. You should be able to tell from the wood


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:28 pm
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The hearth doesn't look recessed to me. Looks like there is wooden flooring fitted over the floor boards so hearth is actually flush with the real floor.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:40 pm
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Dunno about £500… we paid £50 for one not dissimilar to Footflaps'.

Selling a slightly smaller one, so we'll take £499 if anyone wants it, must be collected from Reading.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 7:54 pm
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looks 30s to me surround matches the period has deco curves on reclamation sites they go for 500-1k. but I don't know who would buy one unless they had one already they needed matching.

I paid 650 for a returned cast bedroom 30s fireplace last year. prob not everyone's taste but looks awesome in situ


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 11:17 pm
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Somewhere between 30s and 50s.. would be surprised if you could remove the tiles without chipping or cracking some of them.
Personally think it's pretty ugly and would be lucky to get £20 for it.. but there's no accounting for taste.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 11:34 pm
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My 1900 house had one just like it. That type of fire was all the rage in 1930.
When we moved in I found the instruction manual on line - it has a vent that goes into the void under the floor boards which is supposed to aid warm air flow and economical use(IIRC). Instead it deposits an enormous load of soot into the aforementioned void. Contributing to damp issues 80 odd years later!
I quite liked it but the missus didn't.
Value?=scrap.


 
Posted : 14/01/2019 7:26 am
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If you make it a bit wider, you should be able to get back to the Ministry of Magic.

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Posted : 14/01/2019 8:06 am
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We had exactly the same design and style in one of our fireplaces except in green. House was built some time in the 1930s.


 
Posted : 14/01/2019 8:18 am
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It's gopping - skip it!


 
Posted : 14/01/2019 8:29 am
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Dunno about £500… we paid £50 for one not dissimilar to Footflaps’.

A mint condition Victoria one might be £500, a brand new clone is half that; but a 130 year old one with broken tiles, broken fire bricks etc isn't worth anything. You can't buy spares, so you'd have to make your own replacement parts, find new tiles etc and it still wouldn't go for much. Plus they weigh a ton, two man lift; so in the end I cut it up with an angle grinder and threw it in a neighbours skip.


 
Posted : 14/01/2019 11:46 am
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Well after a bit of Google-Fu

http://edwardian-fireplaces.co.uk/content/edwardian-arch-fireplace


 
Posted : 18/01/2019 2:54 pm
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That wooden floor looks like its floating and the hearth is proper floor level, I will guess late '40s early '50s for the fire


 
Posted : 18/01/2019 3:15 pm
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If you're in the Manchester conurbation have a word with 20th century fires in Reddish they might have it off you.


 
Posted : 18/01/2019 7:00 pm

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