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Based on the amount of kids in groups out in the woods today
Just saw a load of yr12's from school having Domino's in the field of local nature reserve.
East Cheshire plan is now Yr 6 not going back until 29th June and even then "only if schools have the room for them"
Sept I reckon...
According to someone earlier in the thread, french schools went Back and only 70 new cases, which is good news.
In what way is that good news.
In 9 days since the schools opened we have 70 new cases which due to incubation period of the virus are unlikely to be related to schools opening.
How ever those 70 people have been exposed to the school wider populous.
In 15-21 days time is when you can make assumptions such is *that's a good number *
Right now that statistic is meaningless and certainly not "good"
In a secondary, are kids just going to be babysat by a member of staff while they complete work set by their various subjects? Same for FE.
Yeah, that seems to be the word on the virtual-common-room-floor at the moment, at least for Yr10 this term.
It would probably mean that only core subjects get a look in.
Only issue (and it's a biggie!) is if we're in school looking after the Yr10s, who is going to be setting and looking at online work for the other year groups?
@robbo1234biking Springfield in Spondon. Not clear if the kids have tested positive or just got symptoms
In a secondary, are kids just going to be babysat by a member of staff while they complete work set by their various subjects? Same for FE.
My school is planning 30min face to face meetings 1 to 1 between core subject teachers and year 10's and 11's. From 3rd June.
Sorry that should say 10's and 12's...too late to edit
Is it just me or:
- Kids need social interaction, even if 'distanced' (doesn't matter so much about the 'education' bit)
- Classrooms are too small for social distancing
- It seems COVID transmission risk is WAY less outdoors
- Loads of cancelled events = marquee companies out of business
- ...Outdoor classrooms anyone?
And Forest School for those schools that can - kids love it.
Even if it is only a couple of days a week.
We spoke about outdoor/marquees today at work. It is a possibility, but not really viable in Scotland after September.
Loads of cancelled events = marquee companies out of business
Its been my view that a load of outdoor hand washing stations could be put in schools too, like the ones common at festivals. Costs money though and schools dont have any.
Outdoor classrooms anyone?
Yes.
As Scotland director of a national outdoor learning and play charity, there is a lot happening behind the scenes.
I'm also as of today advising the Scottish government Education Recovery Group on outdoor learning and play as we go back, and Scottish Futures Trust on the outdoor space usage.
I can confidently say that we are moving very quickly, that Scottish and Welsh governments are looking and listening, engaging well with key groups.
Westminster and DfE in England.... Not so much bordering on not caring.
Costs money though and schools dont have any.
Like the NHS spend, there is no choice. We need to spend. It will be spent.
It is a possibility, but not really viable in Scotland after September.
We're outdoors year round. Put a jumper on.
Classes won't be outdoors all day.
Quelle surprise!! Good on you Matt - all sounds like good ideas.
My oldest is in Y10. Letter from head today, they are going in 1 day per week after HT. class size of 10, dedicated room, dedicated desk, just core subjects.
She normally goes by train, but as I’m grounded I’ll drive her - it’s only 4 days. I might well park up & go for a long ride whilst she’s in school!!
The media normalisation continues...
BBC Education reporter wandering through a taped off primary school library pretty much shoulder to shoulder with the headteacher as they discuss distancing and other safety procedures.
The media normalisation continues
One of the key problems we have is that images in the media (usually at the extreme or oddball part of the spectrum) just set us down these ineffective and dead end routes.
I've a network of 150+ outdoor professionals, play organisations, outdoor organisations, 12+ landscape architects and more all feeding into Scottish government via just 4 of us and 4 civil servants, working on one workstream of 12, with a number of areas of focus in the education work stream. It's quick, scarily so at times, but it's a solid and inclusive process which will get some detailed practical advice out in a week or so.
We need to spend. It will be spent
I bet you £50 quid it wont.
the climbdown continues. The aim is now " june the first at the earliest"
Shambolic and chaotic
Our estates manager has measured up some classrooms - in the smaller ones we can fit 6 students. Our bus companies have said they can take 12 students on a coach.
We have 1000 Y12 students, 1/3 of whom arrive on the buses. Can't see us going back before the summer.
which is good news.
The French didn't think so, I suppose Boris might.
Looks like returning on the first of June is a complete non event. Head of our secondary has basically said until the government provide the guidance needed for face to face contact time they won't reopen. Don't blame him, would be a reckless head in the current climate who took it on themselves to reopen when most others werent.
the climbdown continues. The aim is now ” june the first at the earliest”
That was always the stated intention, so hardly a climb down.
Shambolic and chaotic
As much due to media reporting than government policy
the climbdown continues.
If it doesnt go as planned they just blame teachers and unions, win win
Don’t blame him, would be a reckless head in the current climate who took it on themselves to reopen when most others werent.
Like mine, set to reopen on 3rd june
Local school has 16 out of a possible 180 confirmed to attend next week. There doesn't seem to be much support for this from the parents, even in a dyed blue conservative area.
My daughter in Y10 was due back next week 1 day a week. Now delayed to week of 15 Jun on government advice.
i wonder if they will push back primaries? If they dont i feel they will be the exeperiment so see how it will go ahead. Not really fair and reckless to make them open on June 1st
Our head now fighting against any return of staff before August (Scot secondary). Which will be a complete mess when we do return. We need in for resources off the network. To do the blended learning.
Feeling is the deep clean just won't happen before summer so can't go in, union red line.
A primary school here has had to close to the key workers kids going in after one of them and their parents tested positive. So, that's a bunch of key workers without childcare.
Wider opening increases that risk.
I work in a sixth form college in England, but our summer holiday dordn't line up with the usual English one, being two weeks earlier. The 15th June announcement means we'd only have two teaching weeks for our Y12, making any attempt to reopen especially pointless.
I don't think I'll be in work again until 14th August.
My daughter in Y10 was due back next week 1 day a week. Now delayed to week of 15 Jun on government advice.
My secondary school said 3rd, then 10th and now is back to 15th.
Onehundredthidiot, why deep clean? The studies done so far don't suggest the virus stays viable for more than 7 days on any surface, many including cloth is as low as 2 days. Just close the building for 10 days, job done (and the chances of there being much virus on surfaces is pretty low anyway unless you've knowingly had an infected person in recently.
I see they're aiming for at least 4 weeks back for all primary kids. No chance, between the unions, cautious parents, unworkable social distancing and stupidly short days meaning people can't go back to work there's no chance.
What is the point of going back one day a week? Increases transmission risk for negible educational value whilst putting ridiculous extra stess on teachers, diverting them away home learning just as everyone is getting used to it. Everyone should have gone back from 1st June on a normal timetable, or at least they should have if the government hadnt made such a mess of things. September full restart seems the sensible option now.
stumpyjon
What is the point of
Increases transmission risk for negible educational value
They couldn't have chosen less educational value than primary reception, yr-1 and yr-6
diverting them away home learning just as everyone is getting used to it
Other than doing his SATS junior in Yr-6 has basically be asked to draw something or similar busy work. This is released randomly through the day so he basically has to sit in front of a computer to check what/if the 30 mins of "work" for 6hrs... meanwhile his mother is sharing the laptop providing support to Yr-1 that parents can do easily* (She's also supporting some non English speaking parents)
of going back one day a week?
It's not rocket science... but regardless the years chosen provide the minimum numbers of people who could return to work. If we have an average number of kids >1.5 (1.9 being accepted) per family and the average age differences are 2-3 yrs then very few parents will have ALL the children in the years even IF they were to go back at the same times.
Risk? Significant numbers of reception are not even potty trained... how on earth is ANY sort of social distancing even possible?
I can't see how if they tried they could have found a combination offering lower educational value for a minimum return to work?
Head of our secondary has basically said until the government provide the guidance needed for face to face contact time they won’t reopen
If you are in Manchester or Lancs it's the council who have said no to 1st June; heads were going along with it until yesterday
Why don't we ask the kids? They know the place best.
More or Less, BBC R4, with a good bit about kids and schools from Prof Sir David Spiegelhalter.
how is he still in a job ??
Ex-chief whip innit?
Government reasoning = If the kids go back to school, the parents can go back to work to feed the economy, the economy being foremost in their thinking.
Which has led to the little spreaders contracting it and passing it all about.
You can pretty much time government rulings like this to the virus going manic.
But this is what you get when you vote someone who is a classed by all as a bumbler, who has failed in every task he's ever been given.
Im expecting at the end of this, with maybe 100,000 dead the tories self congratulating themselves about the success of beating the virus.
If we don't get through this with less than 120k dead we will be doing well.
We are both classed as critical workers but have decided we can make it work and are keeping our one out of school for now. The space can go to someone who needs it