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What's the scrap value of an old radiator?
We've just had 4 replaced. The plumber left the old ones outside the front door saying don't worry, they'll be gone in a day or 2. They had the decency to leave a flyer as a calling card, which makes me wonder why they didn't ask first.
I don't really mind but as the in-laws have a farm and a load of scrap once or twice a year as an income bump is not unusual, that was my preferred destination.
I can't be bothered chasing it (much prefer to vent on here) unless someone says they're worth £50 each or something daft.
Certainly won’t be £50 each.
https://www.handsmetals.co.uk/scrap-metal-prices/
Oh and did you mean the crap dealer drove by?
We have a scrap man who comes round often. He takes a wide range of stuff that the council won't, and he always asks unless it's obviously been put out for him and is rubbish and has been there a while. He takes my old car parts, and he will knock and ask if he's not sure. He has a Cardiff accent and is polite and friendly. It's a useful service and according to the community Facebook they agree.
I got £65 for 350kg of mild steel pre-cut as you get more if you go to them.
Took a while to cut it all small enough to go in buckets.
Pikey's were at it like flies round shit... quite a few tried stealing it, just walked up and started to take it in plain view and one set threatened me when I asked them to leave my property.
I take mine to the council tip (ours seems to take anything) and let them get some money for it.
The value of scrap is always low when I've taken a trailer load to the merchants... Even when it isn't!
About 4 quid each. Put it this way if they were worth anything.... Your plumber would have been " doing you a favour and taking them away"
They went without you having to do anything - and this was a problem?
I'm not sure what connotations the term "pikeys" has, but I wouldn't describe a dislike of petty theft as "bigoted". I'm sure most scrap dealers wouldn't take anything they didn't generally think was being chucked out, and they do provide a useful service, but there are some that definitely cross the line. Where I used to live where the housing was rows of terraces with a back lane in between, a scrap van driving down the back lane with a bloke stood in the back looking over the high walls to see what was in people's yards was a regular sight.
FWIW, I wouldn't expect any scrap men to ask to take something that was left out the front.
I’m not sure what connotations the term “pikeys” has, but I wouldn’t describe a dislike of petty theft as “bigoted”
I posted just a few minutes ago exactly what "connotations" the term has. A dislike of petty theft isn't bigoted, but associating a common slang name for an ethnic group with petty theft most certainly is.
They had the decency to leave a flyer as a calling card, which makes me wonder why they didn’t ask first.
Because leaving a pile of scrap metal outside your door is a pretty universal sign of leaving it out for the scrap man.
Does the milk man knock?
The flyer is probably just incase you're going to be throwing out the rest of the rads and any copper pipe.
I don’t really mind but as the in-laws have a farm and a load of scrap once or twice a year as an income bump is not unusual, that was my preferred destination.
Someone up there said £4 each, maybe if they're some massive cast iron things.
I've no idea how the people collecting it make a living off it, last time I took a trailer load it barely covered the petrol. I only went as the council won't take it!
I posted just a few minutes ago exactly what “connotations” the term has. A dislike of petty theft isn’t bigoted, but associating a common slang name for an ethnic group with petty theft most certainly is.
You posted while I was writing mine.
I wasn't aware it was associated with a particular ethnicity either, as @stevextc says - thought it was more synonymous with "chav" (not that that's an entirely innocent term). Probably best to avoid using it I suppose.
I am pretty sure the people stealing from me were not Romany and I refer to them as Pikey’s because of their actions and attitude
If you wish to continue to post on here I suggest you refrain from using the term on here, it won’t be tolerated.
There are some unsavoury members of the travelling community offering services around here. They seem to have moved on from scrap metal into tree surgery (ish) and roof cleaning. There is one guy that does pop by every couple of months to ask if I'd like my drive re-tarmacd though. Must be old school.
If you wish to continue to post on here I suggest you refrain from using the term on here, it won’t be tolerated.
Which term ? I used several and all of them are distinct. If it's the one beginning with P then it has little or no connection to any ethnic group in anyone I know.
To be perfectly clear I define this P term purely by specific criminal* behaviours and those behaviours require some sort of name in order to differentiate this behaviour from specific ethnic groups or people choosing a specific nomadic or semi nomadic lifestyle for anyone that still thinks there is some sort of connection. I don't believe there is - what I believe there are specific criminal elements who are associating themselves by way of convenience having spotted an easy way to commit crimes and get away with it and this negatively impacts both people of a certain ethnicity and people who simply want a semi-nomadic lifestyle regardless of ethnic origin.
(* as distinct to civil... )
Unless there is a term for this specific criminal behaviour it is impossible to say that one is not the other... and some or all the people who were stealing from my drive were most certainly not of the ethnic origin and given their van had a local business address** very unlikely to be semi-nomadic either.
I'm actually pretty confident of their ethnicity of one set due to the language they spoke amongst themselves and my reluctance to mention it is because I don't think their ethnicity had anything to do with their criminal behaviour.
thought it was more synonymous with “chav”
Another migrating term ... again defined by some behaviour and dress code of wearing what might be considered designer labels whilst acting in general anti-social ways.
At a stretch I might associate the origins with people of Danish descent but if I'm half up to date has been replaced in the younger generation by new terms describing the same people.
does he have a waste licence? What does he do with whatever bits aren't useful to him, pay to have them disposed of or sling them in a hedge?He takes my old car parts, and he will knock and ask if he’s not sure. He has a Cardiff accent and is polite and friendly. It’s a useful service and according to the community Facebook they agree.
oldtennisshoes
There are some unsavoury members of the travelling community offering services around here. They seem to have moved on from scrap metal into tree surgery (ish) and roof cleaning.
They probably aren't members of a travelling community.
and "recently" there are suddenly lots of tree surgeons, gardeners, handy-persons, gutter cleaners etc. due to so many people out of work. Specifically on scrap metal the likelyhood is its someone local as they need to have built a relationship with the local scrap recyclers to get a half decent price.
I've had countless leaflets all posted with local addresses for all of the above.
To be clear there is no discussion for why you use the term Pikey, if you use it on here we will take action.
Anyway scrap iron is worthless.
does he have a waste licence? What does he do with whatever bits aren’t useful to him, pay to have them disposed of or sling them in a hedge?
I think the business model is usually to take lots of small amounts of scrap (radiators, car parts, etc) that people leave out for them as it's not worth the effort individually and take them to the scrapyard to weigh in. They're not going to waste time picking up stuff that isn't scrap metal.
Not even 100% sure you would need a waste licence for that? The law says "buying and selling", if you're just picking up litter from the roadside that people have left out, does that constitute buying?
https://www.gov.uk/scrap-metal-dealer-registrationNot even 100% sure you would need a waste licence for that?
Drac
To be clear there is no discussion for why you use the term Pikey, if you use it on here we will take action.
So what is the preferred term for people who steal from your drive/garden ?
Anyway scrap iron is worthless.
Obviously not as I got £65 that almost pays for a new damper for my Pike forks...
"So what is the preferred term for people who steal from your drive/garden ?"
thief
So what is the preferred term for people who steal from your drive/garden
I propose:
Stealers
N'er do wells
There are loads of options available that don't make you sound like a total knob.
I'm not sure who the OP is annoyed with...the plumber? himself? The people that did him a favour by moving the stuff that was left outside for that very reason?
Either way, defending the the use of a pejorative term is one thing. Defending it after it has been pointed out it is a slur is just ignorance. And saying 'when I say this word I'm not talking about the people that the word is widely considered to be referring to...I'm talking specifically about people that steal stuff' is a real stretch. Would you refer to n**** or p* and when challenged, claim you meant 'people that steal stuff'?
Thought not. As molgrips and others have pointed out, it's lazy and offensive.
Anyway, I suspect this thread will be locked by the time I press submit.
I got £2 for 3 of them about 8 months ago. Van full of copper piping made trip worth while.
Obviously not as I got £65 that almost pays for a new damper for my Pike forks…
I thought it was steel you sold?
Hmm. So people are actually unaware that the P word refers to an ethnic group, and assume it simply means 'thief' because that's how everyone talks about that particular group. That's racism in action, folks.
In the film 'Snatch' from 20-odd years ago they are very clearly an ethnic group so I don't think I'm just making this up.
So what is the preferred term for people who steal from your drive/garden
Thieves, scumbags, scrotes, criminials etc. Plenty more words to choose from.
Aside from the cultural ignorance:
I got £65 for 350kg of mild steel pre-cut as you get more if you go to them.
Took a while to cut it all small enough to go in buckets.
How long did you spend cutting it all up? And what sort of tools did you use? Did you do this outside?
What’s the scrap value of an old radiator?
We’ve just had 4 replaced. The plumber left the old ones outside the front door saying don’t worry, they’ll be gone in a day or 2. He was right, the pikeys drove by and had them. They had the decency to leave a flyer as a calling card, which makes me wonder why they didn’t ask first.
are you sure the plumber doesn't ask them to pick them up?
The connotations are numerous but I think very few people under 70 would associate this with a ethnic group.
You would be wrong.
How long did you spend cutting it all up? And what sort of tools did you use? Did you do this outside?
Quite a while due to weather and the big saw and angle grinder not liking getting wet.
It's a major operation getting the big saw out and back.... and not remotely possible for me to drag 350kg inside but £65 is £65....
As above, it's a common term.
As for the rads, you would probably have spent more in fuel getting them to your in laws and back, they're worthless, let the metal man take them.
They’re not going to waste time picking up stuff that isn’t scrap metal.
Washing machines are mostly concrete by weight but still have a load of steel and motors.
So people are actually unaware that the P word refers to an ethnic group, and assume it simply means ‘thief’ because that’s how everyone talks about that particular group.
There is no simply means ‘thief’ ... and snatch shows the irony. One set of petty criminals using it to describe another"
My understanding has nothing to do with Snatch (as you say a 20yr old film) and everything to do with the type of crime. We have "proper words" for confidence tricksters, burglars, shoplifters, fencers etc. etc. but not one for the specific theft that people then say "they did you a favour mate" or "why are you complaining it wasn't worth much" ..
This might be a crap term due to a ironic quote from a 20yr old film but there is a huge gap unless you know a better term for "theft that will get classed as petty and we'll just pretend we thought it was abandoned".
Washing machines are mostly concrete by weight but still have a load of steel and motors.
So your point is to do with the amount of concrete wash8ng machine weights littering rural Britain.
Oh wait, there's not.
(FWIW the value is in the drum, they're a high grade of stainless and worth £8-£10).
unless you know a better term for “theft that will get classed as petty and we’ll just pretend we thought it was abandoned”.
Ooooh tricky... Petty opportunistic thief?
You know if you're going to troll you should really try not to be so shit at it.
You also need a licence to collect other people's scrap, usually called a carriers licence.
https://www.gov.uk/register-renew-waste-carrier-broker-dealer-england
Anyway scrap iron is worthless.
Currently £200/tonne including a skip and collection.
Incidentally, it's value turned negative for a couple of weeks last April/May.
Ooooh tricky… Petty opportunistic thief?
Perhaps the opportunistic but the petty is the bit I take issue with.
You know if you’re going to troll you should really try not to be so shit at it.
One troll is someone else's balrog ...
Petty is a very poor term... nicking a sandwich from a shop or something but that's shoplifting.
Having a bike nicked might be petty to some (more outside STW) but not to others.
Local FB is full of "you shouldn't have locked it at the train station - what do you expect" type comments. Not to mention the opportunistic (IMHO) often implies some fault on the victim and/or "why you making such a fuss" along with no obvious way to actually get the item back.
There is also the connotation that the thieves just randomly stumbled on this "opportunity" which can also be and IMHO usually is false... I've watched the "scrotes" going through neighbouring gardens in a planned manner but other than confronting them there is nothing you can do... its hardly just radiators it can be gardening tools etc. and the answer will always be "oh we thought it was being thrown away"... Its not IMHO the same as some drunken "chavs" nicking a garden gnome they saw after the pub/nightclub closed....
The "scrotes" who steal bikes form the station are on camera... pictures posted show they can't even be bothered to wear the covid mask they have round their chin to even try and disguise their identity presumably because they know noone will do anything as its "petty"
Quite a while due to weather and the big saw and angle grinder not liking getting wet.
That -plus fuel...... I think I'd have let them come get them for free and not cut them up and transported them for free for 65 quid that isn't really 65 quid when you factor in all what your outlay was in time and tooling
My friend used the term pikey to describe a thief. We were all like 'thats not very cool'. Turns out he didn't realise what it meant. Apologised and hasn't used it again.
It's ok to be ignorant. But if it's explained to you and you continue to use racist language then you are a bigot.
Currently £200/tonne including a skip and collection.
Seems to have gone up considerably from the link I posted, still 2 radiators isn’t going to make you reach.
That -plus fuel…… I think I’d have let them come get them for free and not cut them up and transported them for free for 65 quid that isn’t really 65 quid when you factor in all what your outlay was in time and tooling
Cutting it, transporting, fuel and van hire I’d be at around £100 out of pocket.
So your point is to do with the amount of concrete wash8ng machine weights littering rural Britain.
Oh wait, there’s not.
(FWIW the value is in the drum, they’re a high grade of stainless and worth £8-£10).
No, if you look somewhere overhead you'll perhaps spot it. 😉
(my point was that they will still take stuff that doesn't have a high metal content)
It’s ok to be ignorant. But if it’s explained to you and you continue to use racist language then you are a bigot.
exactly.
One troll is someone else’s balrog …
you've been told it doesn't mean what you want it to mean, you continue to try and argue about it. Troll was me being polite, what I would actually call you would have me kicked off if the swear filter didn't save me.
Don't be an argumentative dickhead, you're wrong, its irrelevant if you don't have a word you don't think fits* you can't use a different one taht causes offence.
*despite the fact on both occassions in asking the question you've own goaled your answers.
Ive got around 150 ton of steel to dispose of from next week. Been offered £180 a ton for it. That includes flatbed trailers to take it away.
Happy with that. As said up above, you couldnt give the stuff away this time last year.
I'll make sure i dont "leave it out the front" mind you
trail_rat
That -plus fuel…… I think I’d have let them come get them for free and not cut them up and transported them for free for 65 quid that isn’t really 65 quid when you factor in all what your outlay was in time and tooling
Drac
Cutting it, transporting, fuel and van hire I’d be at around £100 out of pocket.
That's up to you.
What your opinion doesn't do is entitle you to trivialise the crime just because its not worth it for you.
what your outlay was in time and tooling
Barely got through a single cutting disk and not much wear on the saw blade... and a couple of quids worth of electric perhaps and 3-4 miles out of my way on the way to ride.
What £60 means to me ....I already worked out it was closer to £60 nett.
From What's App (the other day)
OK. I can't afford both days one is enough. Let me know ASAP and I'll book 4 slots to ensure we got it together
Yeah know what you mean but I’ll have to pay fuel anyway so better for us to do 2 days
This is (most of) the difference between making a weekend of riding uplift and kipping in the van or just doing one day and the highlight of the year for me and the kid.
or the difference between fixing a broken bike and not...
What a waste of a thread. Man puts scrap in the street - scrap gets taken away - man is outraged at someone getting something for nothing.
Is that about right?
You forgot; different man uses racially offensive slur, tries to justify it, fails.
It doesn't seem that long since people on this forum were making 'Y' stickers in the correct font to stick on the end of the model name of their Rockshox forks.
Glad to see folks have caught up a bit in terms of what's acceptable.
Quite a while due to weather and the big saw and angle grinder not liking getting wet.
It’s a major operation getting the big saw out and back…. and not remotely possible for me to drag 350kg inside but £65 is £65….
So, a lot of work for just £65. £65 may be a lot to you, and worth the effort. Whatever. But having cut up various materials with an angle grinder etc, I know that it makes a stupid amount of noise. So unless you live alone in the middle of nowhere, I'd hazard a guess your neighbours might not have been best pleased. We'll overlook the various using a domestic property for 'business' purposes, and the no doubt myriad health and safety concerns. So you basically acted in your own interests, without consideration for others. Ok.
My understanding
In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary; come again?
What your opinion doesn’t do is entitle you to trivialise the crime just because its not worth it for you.
Errrrr! I didn’t.
It’s also not an opinion, I would be out of pocket for that effort. I’ve got a load of scrap to get shot of, I’ve a contact number for a guy to take it away. It’s not worth me hiring a van to lose out on some cash when I let someone else take it away. It might be pay for his uplift or some dampers for his `Judys. Of course it might also allow him to feed his kids.
i left a broken dishwasher out this morning, a nice european knocked on the door and i said off course you can take it away, thank you very much
i messaged a mate after and asked what values metals are at the minute,
he said a dishwasher 20KG
6.5 a kg, i replied pence and he replied yeah £1.30
so what's he doing with it, and what will happen to the bits he doesn't want?6.5 a kg, i replied pence and he replied yeah £1.30
It doesn’t matter what a group of middle class cyclists think is acceptable or not, the term is still going to get used whether you like it or not. Maybe just not on a posh Internet forum.
The forum has rules. You don’t like them then go elsewhere.
The forum has rules. You don’t like them then go elsewhere.
I am abiding by the rules. What’s your problem??
(FWIW the value is in the drum, they’re a high grade of stainless and worth £8-£10).
There’s probably more money in the motor because of the copper content. That’s why you’ve got “potentially interesting metal recycling chaps” at the entrances of back street scrappys ripping them apart to get the motor and drum out separately as they’ll get more money for them than mixed metal which is what the machine on its own will classify as.
Scrap steel prices are still pretty low compared to a few years ago. Still worth weighing it in if you have some but it doesn’t easily sustain a jobbing scrapper driving round in his transit. I couldnt understand , when I worked in that arena, how they make their money to be honest. Its the metal recyclers who make the most money, especially the well run ones.
let’s be honest, a proven group of scumbag criminals they might have gained a nicer group name for themselves.
EDIT: Reported. No need to engage any further.
@zilog6128, we have a couple of recognisable scrap metal men around the town, i stripped all the seals and plastic draws bits off the inside, and binned them. sure he'll trade them as is,
Used to work next to a quite reputable scrap yard, no shortage of unlicensed scrap men used to use it. Was quite common to find them on the pavement cutting motors out of white goods, including fridges, using a Stihlsaw wearing safety flip flops. Debris left all over the street. Never had so many punctures on the car as when I worked there.
I am abiding by the rules. What’s your problem??
Sigh! I was explaining what happens if people who use the term everyday then come on here and use it. It has nothing to do with people’s class it’s against the rules.
I am abiding by the rules. What’s your problem??
Sigh! I was explaining what happens if people who use the term everyday then come on here and use it. It has nothing to do with people’s class it’s against the rules.
If anyone is interested in if there is money in scrap metal google European Metal Recycling and seeing where the owning family sit in the Sunday Times rich list 😆
Round here they don't take the parts they don't want. Leave a white good out with stainless or copper that is hard to strip then they probably take the lot, but I've seen loads of dysons etc stripped of the motor, loads of fridges and freezers stripped of the compressor, dishwashers and microwaves etc get the copper power cable cut off but the rest is left.
I think the correct term for the people who cruise the streets picking up scrap is probably rag and bone man (or person if you want to be PC). There about 4 teams come down our road, at least 2 or 3 a day, one complete with loudhailer shouting 'rag and bone'.
They will all claim to be honest but some 'look' so closely for scrap that they emptied the trailer of a guy on the next road of his collection he had ready for weighing in and get very shirty with anyone who has a camera.
May be a useful service is some ways but there are too many (probably not all) who are too ready to take without asking or indeed steal stuff.
Edit: PS scrap steel is worth very little at present. Copper and stainless considerably more.
scrap steel is worth very little at present
Nonsense, its as high as i've ever known it
Bridges
So, a lot of work for just £65. £65 may be a lot to you, and worth the effort. Whatever. But having cut up various materials with an angle grinder etc, I know that it makes a stupid amount of noise. So unless you live alone in the middle of nowhere, I’d hazard a guess your neighbours might not have been best pleased. We’ll overlook the various using a domestic property for ‘business’ purposes, and the no doubt myriad health and safety concerns. So you basically acted in your own interests, without consideration for others. Ok.
Why are you are clutching at straws making up assumed things?
I know that it makes a stupid amount of noise. So unless you live alone in the middle of nowhere, I’d hazard a guess your neighbours might not have been best pleased.
your assumption is wrong but I don't need to justify it to you... you aren't my neighbours
We’ll overlook the various using a domestic property for ‘business’ purposes, and the no doubt myriad health and safety concerns. So you basically acted in your own interests, without consideration for others. Ok.
You really are being pathetic .. it's not a business and H&S concerns are non of your business either.
Do you trawl eBay looking for people selling their old bikes and then tell them they are acting as a business and should be leaving them out to get stolen?
I didn't claim VAT back on the blades or the grinding wheel, electricity or diesel...
So you basically acted in your own interests, without consideration for others. Ok.
How are these concepts so hard to understand?
1/ I sold some unwanted property for recycling to a company registered to deal with it.
2/ I object to people stealing my property.
3/ I object and am offended by people saying £60 nett is a trivial amount of money
/ I object and am offended by people saying £60 nett is a trivial amount of money
I object to you claiming it cost 5 quid to cut up 350kg into small enough pieces to fit into buckets.
So we will call it quits.
No one said 60 quid was trivial. I said you didn't get 60 quid nett after all costs considered.
trailrat
I object to you claiming it cost 5 quid to cut up 350kg into small enough pieces to fit into buckets.
So we will call it quits.
No one said 60 quid was trivial. I said you didn’t get 60 quid nett after all costs considered.
Erm no you need to prove my costs exceeded £5 if you are calling me a lair (We'll forget the pence as it was £65 something but we agreed on the £65)
Why are you are clutching at straws making up assumed things?
your assumption is wrong but I don’t need to justify it to you… you aren’t my neighbours
You really are being pathetic .. it’s not a business and H&S concerns are non of your business either..
Why are you so defensive?
Do you trawl eBay looking for people selling their old bikes and then tell them they are acting as a business and should be leaving them out to get stolen?
Yes. Next question.
Why are you so defensive?
Because you seem hell bent on implying I should be happy when people steal my property and it's not really illegal and shouldn't be a fuss made whilst making up little stories that I'm doing something illegal by sending my own property for recycling.
Do you trawl eBay looking for people selling their old bikes and then tell them they are acting as a business and should be leaving them out to get stolen?
Yes. Next question.
Then you're pathetic and lying to them, it seems habitual lying is just how you are though.
Lol!
Not calling you a liar . Just saying your math doesn't add up either that or your completely negating the main component of the true cost of your 65quid .... I guess you have been salaried/hourly paid your whole life.
No one's thieving your stuff ...you phone they come they take (for free). Saves you time and money.
But if your time is free and plentiful crack on.
If only someone offered a similar service for making my logs into firewood for free........
It doesn’t matter what a group of middle class cyclists think is acceptable or not, the term is still going to get used whether you like it or not. Maybe just not on a posh Internet forum.
If the people we are talking about weren’t so nasty, completely uncaring about anyone else, strut around the place like they are above the law and, let’s be honest, a proven group of scumbag criminals they might have gained a nicer group name for themselves.
Thats the problem - which group of people are you talking about? I don't think anyone has an issue with calling our opportunist thieves nicking metal from doorsteps - but labelling them with a term used for Irish Travellers is probably not just offensive and stupid - but its actually plainly wrong based on what others have posted - these are not travellers they are locally based with fixed addresses! So it hardly helps the travellers get a good name for themselves if they get the blame for shit they didn't do.
Not calling you a liar . Just saying your math doesn’t add up either that or your completely negating the main component of the true cost of your 65quid …. I guess you have been salaried/hourly paid your whole life.
Unless I have a contract my time is worth nothing. I can rebuild a fork that doesn't need it or cut up metal (or today I'll be taking down a fence and digging out the foundations for concrete once the neighbours are up)... one of those gets me £60 ... the other just costs me some oil and seals that I didn't need to change. Weather was crap for cycling so one way or another I end up fixing stuff or building/making something that inevitably costs money.
No one’s thieving your stuff …you phone they come they take (for free). Saves you time and money.
If I'd phoned or even if they asked and then went away when I'd asked I'd be happy but that's not what happened.
They started stealing straight off right under my nose and when I asked to stop and leave they incrementally threatened me. (starting with ignoring then one of them came over and started shouting in my face then telling me I couldn't stop them) then they came back a 2nd time... once again they just started stealing as they already knew I wanted to keep my property and refused to leave.
What is shocking is being told "ah just let them take it, its not worth much".
If only someone offered a similar service for making my logs into firewood for free……..
Other side neighbours are getting the fence posts cut for their wood burner ... (that I cut the flu for them and help fit the flu for free)
There’s probably more money in the motor because of the copper content.
About £3 actually.
I deal with the WEE at work so have a vague idea what's scrap to be left out and what's pulled apart and put into various bins.
Circuit boards are always the surprising one when you can get a fairly heavy crate of them together.
If you were to call someone from the travelling community a ‘P’ to their face they would be hugely offended, as it is a derogative racial slur. We don’t use the ‘N’ word anymore and it’s on a par with ‘P’.
There are various theories as to where the ‘P’ word comes from. One theory is that it comes from ‘Pikeman’. Pikemen were the ‘cannon fodder’ in the army at the time of the English Civil War. They were poorly armed, often the first to be sent into battle and considered ‘worthless and expendable’ by their officers.
Please have a think about this and don’t use the highly offensive ‘P’ word in future
When did scrap prices rocket up?
Went to EMR to today with a bit of data/power cable. Been saving it up for a a few months and was wondering if i could be bothered cutting all the kettle plugs off for a few £. Spent about an hour
£2124 a ton. Highest I can remember it being.
And i had 157 kilos 😃