[Closed] School kid attacked by teachers dog

No I'd not be angry. Otherwise well mannered dogs bite people now and again. What annoys me is that the dog has been killed.

Sorry Glupton. You need to read what you just wrote.

Putting the dog down seems very harsh. I speak from the perspective of a teacher, parent and dog- owner.

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We do not know if there is 'previous', nor what breed was involved do we?

If you we're a parent at that school you'd either be avert young parent or kept back for a looooong time.

Curse you iPad typing 😈

It's a shame the dog was destroyed but it does seem strange a dog would just flip like that. Poor kid will probably never like dogs again and have scarring.

I wonder if the teacher was allowed the dog to be on site or if it had been risk assessed before hand? I can see her getting into a lot of trouble though.

I'd have been livid if it was my kid and they put the dog down. According to the account it nipped a kid, it didn't attack.

No I'd not be angry. Otherwise well mannered dogs bite people now and again. What annoys me is that the dog has been killed.

Sorry Glupton. You need to read what you just wrote.

What bit? Because it makes perfect sense to me.

Glupton you wouldn't? I would be furious. The dog was an Alaskan Malamute and the parents were not told this would be happening.

If that is the case then it is extremely sad that the dog was destroyed. Why the plastic surgery hospital for a nip though? Too lazy to click on link and read.

What exactly is there to be angry about?

Glupton you wouldn't? I would be furious. The dog was an Alaskan Malamute and the parents were not told this would be happening.

Doesn't say any of that in the link you posted.

http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/

bit odd, how one by one they were let in to stroke the dog,...the dog was probably irritated by that (not a dog expert at all) ..just seems a bit strange?

A teacher in a position of responsibility brings a dog into school to five year old children. It attacks one of them so badly that the child has to be taken to the specialist plastic surgery hospital to get treatment. And the parents were not asked for their consent. I think it's appalling.

If that is the case then it is extremely sad that the dog was destroyed. Why the plastic surgery hospital for a nip though? Too lazy to click on link and read.

"Then suddenly the dog just turned on one little child and it's as if he just flicked his head to one side and caught the little child in the face."

That's a nip from a big dog to the face. Nasty end result, but not an attack and no need to put down the dog.

Just read it. Could this not just be sensationalist reporting resulting in the unnecessary destroying of the dog? It starts with 'mauled by dog' and doesn't really mention what actually happened. Dog turned and bit at face, that's it. I feel for the kid, but what actually happened, were there extenuating circumstances, did the owner or child do something to scare the dog? Seems like a shabby report to me.

Put the ****ing Teacher down imo

A teacher in a position of responsibility brings a dog into school to five year old children. It attacks one of them so badly that the child has to be taken to the specialist plastic surgery hospital to get treatment. And the parents were not asked for their consent. I think it's appalling.

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Can they actually do plastic surgery without asking the parents?

I feel very sorry for the dog, the teacher and owner, and the boy.

Sure the dog was a bit freaked by all the kids but was almost certainly a nice dog or the teacher wouldn't be bringing it in surely.

Tragic.

Can they actually do plastic surgery without asking the parents?

Of course doctors can treat anyone without consent- there are of course medical guidelines but imagine A & E doing nothing

If you are found unconscious do you think they would wait before acting?

I feel very sorry for the dog, the teacher and owner, and the boy.
Sure the dog was a bit freaked by all the kids but was almost certainly a nice dog or the teacher wouldn't be bringing it in surely.

[quote=Singlespeed_Shep ]A teacher in a position of responsibility brings a dog into school to five year old children. It attacks one of them so badly that the child has to be taken to the specialist plastic surgery hospital to get treatment. And the parents were not asked for their consent. I think it's appalling.
+1
Can they actually do plastic surgery without asking the parents?
Read the article. The parents took the child into hospital

Sound like teacher didn't know/understand dog in that situation, school didn't know what was happening, or didn't understand, and as a result kid has been hurt and prob traumatized and dog killed. Sorry story all round.

I was trying to be funny, but failed 🙁

I was trying to be funny, but failed

I found it amusing, if it helps 😀

Me too.

Actually people thinking you were being serious was also funny 😀

You have to question the wisdom of bringing what sounds like quite a large dog ([i]Alaskan Malamute husky-type dog [/i]), into a captive environment that could be quite stressful for any dog anyway. Not that small dogs are any less prone to unpredictable behaviour, but I've this nightmare scanario in mind of a couple of stupid dimwits that really should know better, standing around whilst this poor tethered animal is forced to stand to attention, probably while the usual commands are repeatedly coiced at him.

Feel so bad for the poor kid, must have been more shock than anything by the sound of it. He/She trusts the school staff & they let something like this happen. If it were my kid, I'd be bloody livid & the knee jerk reation is to seek vengence by killing the poor animal. The stupid dimwit that approved the whole debacle would be the focus of my attention.

Poor dog being brought into a school. It's not a petting zoo. Sounds like the dog got over excited or it was a pure accident that could have been avoided if the dog was left at home.

Injuries don't have to be severe for plastics, it's a young kid with facial injuries so plastics is fairly routine. Plastics can be just a minor patch up but people love to be dramatic about it. "Oooh it's so serious he needed plastic surgery".

Best wishes to the child a real shame.

sad day for the dog.. the owner should have known better than let the thing be pawed by a school full of kids..

'specialist plastic surgery unit' my 10yr old daughter was rushed to one for emergency treatment and the wanted to operate and keep her in for three days.. when she cut her big toe.. we asked for a plaster and thanked them for thier over the top gesture.

The teacher should never have allowed the dog to be in that situation! Poor dog IMO

One of the problems of dog ownership. Pretty much everyone with a dog that they feed, walk, play with, play-fight with, spend time with every day seems to think that everyone else will love their dog too and that their dog will behave the same around everyone else. They don't.

Hope the wee lad has no lasting effects from the experience.

Clearly not serious injuries and defiantly not a "mauling" if the parents have been called into school and then taken the kid to hospital.

It was a mistake by the teacher, but I think an understandable mistake. It was probably a lovely dog, but putting it into that scenario was an extremely unusual and circumstance was highly stressful for the dog.

Putting it down is a disgraceful kneejerk tabloid reaction.

My dog is as soft as a brush with kids, however I still wouldn't trust him implicitly, especially in a situation like that. He'd get pissed off having his ears pulled, poked in the eye and having his balls grabbed, probably react after a while, but who wouldn't? Hope there's no lasting damage, real shame about the dog, good intentions gone wrong. Massive over reaction led by the media, I suppose the teacher will be crucified now because of the public interest that has been generated.

My ¢2: From my training at a well known highstreet pet shop chain.

Malamutes are unpredictable and should not be around children. Same goes for Akitas and a few others.

I may be biased - because every scrote in Bradford asked me in said shop

Remarkably predictable chav/hoodie/scroat voice "I need a chain for my dog, it's a Akita, yeah. Naaaah - not dat [Nylon coller that could restrain a bullock] I want one with [i]studs n **%&*[/i] on in, yeah, you get me. Dis dog is bear tough yeah?"

I was really scared for their offspring- a few young women with tiny kids had Akitas. The dog would end-up twice her weight, was not going to be trained much and was feed junk-food and such would probably be about as calm as a kid with a belly full of Skittles and Monster Energy.

I'm sure there are exceptions, but the truth is some breeds of dog are innately violent, to one degree or another. EG: Akitas were bred for hunting large animals, the traits that make them suitable for this were re-crossed into their genetic make-up for hundreds of generations, and are a part of their mental make-up now. And even if it's just a moment of temper, their physical adaptations make them able to deliver serious injuries to soft pink-skinned humans, [i]especially [/i] little ones.

Malamutes are different yes, but have hunting and protection urges re-bred into them. They are also powerful and fast. If none of this screams "Not an animal to bring into contact with a room full of kids" to the owner; then I think the owner should not keep such an animal.

IMHO The owner was acting irresponsibly and foolishly to bring such an animal into a school.

Would you let kids stroke your pet Tiger? People keep/raise them, and occasionally they maul their owners to death. This is not such a different situation.

Nonetheless, from what I have typed above it's not hard to deduce I am sad the dog was put down. It was the fault of the owner, not the dog.

As a side note - what can be done to reduce the number of these dogs being used as a substitute display weapon by the "hands down the front of the jogging bottom" types? Legislation? A campaign by deeply uncool celebrities to "claim" the image of these animals and make them undesirable?

Poor dog.

glupton1976 - Member

No I'd not be angry. Otherwise well mannered dogs bite people now and again. What annoys me is that the dog has been killed.

It's like the Stones at Glastonbury isn't it?:
Flashes of previous brilliance, you appreciate the effort, but it's just not quite as good as it used to be.

Should be intresting for a claim,all could be classed as liable, the dogs owner, the school or the education authority or fund holder for the school, all will probably be involved and lots of letters going to be sent out, and big fees earned.

Sad for th child and even sadder for the dog.

The problem is the naive teacher.

All dogs bite regardless of size if it is irritated. It's in their nature, it is a dog. Even my cat would chase me ... yes it's a massive tom cat that hated me when I flicked his balls.

Hindsight is great isn't it. Everyone trying to do their best and something goes wrong. They then all become villains.

Should I stop taking kids to Germany and letting them loose unaccompanied in the Mannheim centre? What if they bought drugs, spent an hour in a brothel, got run over, got drunk... ?

Should Madame stop taking them to England a letting them go shopping in Oxford street? What if one looked the wrong way on a zebra crossing and got run over?

Should I stop taking the German kids mountain biking (I hire a qualified guide for the day)? What if one fell off?

I'm sometimes surprised by the risks that teachers take to allow my son to take part in his sporting activities, but grateful they do. They could be accused of all sorts of horrors and if anything went wrong would get the blame.

You can spend your life risk assessing, wear a bullet proof vest and helmet to go to the shops, and still get hit by lightning or hit a deer that jumps the fence on the motorway. I suppose never leaving your house would eliminate those risks... .

Oh man. I have a Rottweiler, and while he's soft and daft and a lovely dog and all the rest I still wouldn't want to put him in a room full of kids to be mithered constantly. Teacher was daft IMO - sure it was done with the best of intentions, but it hasn't turned out very well for anyone.

I'm surprised the school allowed it (that's if the head teacher knew), I remember the days of having a class hamster in primary school but most schools won't take the risk of having any animals around the kids, some parents would sue over a hamster nip these days, let alone a dog bite.

yes it's a massive tom cat that hated me when I flicked his balls.

Really hoping that "f" was intentional. Really hoping.

Insert pussy joke here...

Looks like the wee lad wasn't too badly hurt

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/parents-of-boy-savaged-by-teachers-dog-do-not-blame-anyone-29386642.html

[b][i]"Jamie Stevenson who was savaged by a dog pictured with his Dad Darwin, mum Valerie and Siblings"[/i][/b]

Yeah thanks ...... that really was a worthwhile picture 🙄

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Shoddy work by the plastic surgeon there.

Lol at Ian

The bloody stoopid people wasted a dog here....is my understanding.

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Gofaster interested in your view that hunting dogs are innately violent. Whats your authority?

One of my family used to breed and train a breed of very large hunting dogs. They were no more or less aggressive than any other breed of mid size retriever/mongrel type dogs that I have encountered.

There are a multitude of things that could cause a dog or cat or hamster to attack. I think more the issue is certain breeds attract particular types of owner who encourage aggressive and boisterous behaviourShame really as it ruins the breeds image with those who like those breeds for all the right reasons and who do behave properly.

Tragic incident for the boy and the dog.

when i was a nipper the family pooch (stupidly soft to say the least) was licking my dads face(she licked everything) and her tooth caught inside of dads nose as he was trying to avoid the licking and basically claret everywhere. small colly size

so is that an attack???

me thinks dog was being playful and due to a bit of clumsyness etc etc

^ thats the nub of it isnt it and by the time things have been retold a few times its hard to know what happened on the ground and thats for the school and other parties to work out. One person's nip or scratch is anothers savage attack. I have a big scar on my shin that some people wince at and call an injury. I think of it as pedal rash!

The problem with dogs is a little action on the dogs part can have quite messy results for the human. Big teeth and soft flesh!

GD:
Depends on the exact breed. Check any dog temperament guide book though and you will find references to the spectrum of traits different breeds exhibit. Dogs are generally thought of as the most physically diverse species of animal on the planet!

NB I not mean gun dogs.

gtg - laying on my back in a tent