[Closed] scammed by shoe website...

I had a similar problem when buying some hair straighteners from www.eastlondonkebabhouse.co.uk, and again when buying some beefburgers from www.hatsandscarves.com

Not tried HSBC yet as hold no hope there as I entered the card details and hit "buy now".

What? If you've been ripped up they can do a charge back and get you sorted right away

The About Us page is one of the most brilliantly vague things I've ever read! The URL being completely different from the shop name sets off alarm bells right away though (or the less subtle Binners version!)

You can still advise your bank and seek a charge back, you maybe better talking to the fraud dept.

Worst website ever, personally one look at the URL would have had me running for the hills.

Not one ounce of contact information anywhere on that website which is normally a dead giveaway something's not right.

Hope you manage to get your money back, if you after cheap vans go and have a look on M and M direct or extremepie.

binners - Member
I had a similar problem when buying some hair straighteners from http://www.eastlondonkebabhouse.co.uk, and again when buying some beefburgers from http://www.hatsandscarves.com

😆 😆 😆

OP.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but give your sources of payment to a younger member of the family. Next time you fancy buying some shoes from a pizza website, just run it past them first.

...by a very convincing website....

Ok, my trolling detector just raised a quizzical eyebrow.

Pretty sure I have been taken for £48 here by a [s]very convincing[/s] website

Check Jamie out replying to threads on a working day of the new year, I though you might just be back for the hols. Does this mean you're here to stay mate? and where did you go for a year?

Worst website ever, personally one look at the URL would have had me running for the hills.

Tell me about it....Look what turned up in the post this morning!!!!

[img] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pKB-1eSmdBtHzsODpIGBXF-Big3X3bYJa03VND0O2XylYXaNK7Ri339NydXNp3G77wctAJE=w330-h219-p-no [/img]

I've just checked out their website hoping to get a pizza the action. Not any styles I like which is a shame.

Would love some half cabs with extra anchovies.

growing glad 😆

Was it a sole trader?

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Ha..ha.. yes I had clocked the name.. hsbc have refunded under visa guidlines so may well work out. I was searching "vans shoes" originally and it throws up some small online stores with very random names.

coconut was it your first time using the internet 🙂

From the About Us source code - is this what they mean by vans shoes?

<title>About Us</title>
<base href="http://www.farmhousepizza-stoneleigh.co.uk/" />
<meta name="description" [b]content="cbvmotors-redditch.co.uk[/b] About Us. With the development of 10 years, we get to know the industry better and better." />
<meta name="keywords" content="cbvmotors-redditch.co.uk, About Us" />

Pretty sure that site has been hacked.

Yeah, and I am the first person to buy from a website with a funny name...

why do you think it is hacked ?

It's less the name, and more the whole website looks fake.

Anyway, which model Vans where you after?

I was initially a bit unsure regarding the returns and lack of contact details.

why do you think it is so obviously fake ? Glad I reported it to police. What is strange is it has been operational for 120 days and polce were not aware!

why do you think it is so obviously fake ?

1. The name of the website
2. The name of the website not matching the name of the store.
3. No contact details.
4. Odd pricing. Both discounts and original RRP.
5. Vague, or just odd, copy.
6. No SSL certificate.
7. Whatever this is:

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8. Etc

plus... they take western union... they've left dollar prices in a few places on the site... the "about us" page is 5 paragraphs and yet tells you absolutely nothing about the company (very generic, almost like the entire site is a template...)

[url= https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/farmhousepizza-stoneleigh.co.uk ]Does this help?[/url]

Anyway, which model Vans where you after?

Size 11 Ham and Mushroom

why do you think it is so obviously fake ?

As already said above plus the 'about us' page doesn't mention Vans, a bit odd for a seller specialising in Vans.
No Vans logos anywhere

Size 11 Ham and Mushroom

I'll have a slice of that Vans action

I'm not sure if this is a serious post or not?

Reason for Return:
Dead On Arrival
Faulty, please supply details
Order Error
Other, please supply details
Received Wrong Item

I often buy trainers which are dead when they arrive...

Glad I reported it to police. What is strange is it has been operational for 120 days and polce were not aware!

The phrase 'internet-police' is often miss-understood.

You probably just ordered the wrong type of Vans.

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Yes it is a serious post. All the I.T bods are pointing out how obvious the site is, when already told it was dodgy. Still up there are likely attracting others.

I'm no expert but wouldn't it be prudent to cancel the card and get it replaced.

Yes it is a serious post. All the I.T bods are pointing out how obvious the site is, when already told it was dodgy.

All the I.T bods are pointing out how obvious the site is

I'm not an 'IT bod' but a website I've never heard of specialising in Vans, that has no contact details, has nonsense 'about us' info and is named after a pizza shop in epsom would alert me to the fact it's not legit.

It looks similar to the many fake oakley sites.

plus... they take [b]western union.[/b]..

well fwiw, both scamadvisor and a whois search on netim.com give the site's owner as
Domain name:
farmhousepizza-stoneleigh.co.uk

Registrant:
Ryan Michael

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
39 walfield avenue
whetstone
?london
N20 9PS
United Kingdom

been scammed for some Vans?

I'm sure we can get to the [i]foot [/i]of the problem.

Let's hope you aren't the [i]sole [/i]victim.

The site looks like a load of [i]cobblers[/i].

Yeah that's the address I passed on. Point taken about the blurb not adding up, but it was a fairly cheap pair of shoes, hence not a full run through all the site. Found it on general google search, browsed trainer (loads of sites don't have the vans logo on), added to basket and paid via a visa registered handler... so not that unusual.

..It happens every day
No matter what you pay

well fwiw, both scamadvisor and a whois search on netim.com give the site's owner as
Domain name:
farmhousepizza-stoneleigh.co.uk

Registrant:
Ryan Michael

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
39 walfield avenue
whetstone
?london
N20 9PS
United Kingdom

Probably bought/registered with stolen credit card/details. I would be very surprised if someone setting up a fake website, would then put their contact details as the registrant.

Is very annoying that site is still up and running. Reported to hsbc/ police and visa and still there!

but it was a fairly cheap pair of shoes

Too good to be true?

I'd have said that the pizza/shoe dichotomy would have been enough to put me off. That and the randomness of it all.

But sometimes we just want things to be true.

Too good to be true?

Too good to be Choux

Would you like me to introduce you to my Nigerian uncle for some investment advice? He very good man. Honourable man! Honest man, with many lucrative opportunities available exclusively for you!

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Hmmmm, must be a dodgy address. That is just round the corner to me (and I ride with the dog in the park behind) - it's too nice an area 😆 No crime going on there...!

Sorry you've been scammed, hindsight is 20:20. Hope you get it sorted

Probably bought/registered with stolen credit card/details. I would be very surprised if someone setting up a fake website, would then put their contact details as the registrant.

once upon a time they sold pizzas...

https://web.archive.org/web/20130515212309/http://farmhousepizza-stoneleigh.co.uk

coconut - Member

Is very annoying that site is still up and running. Reported to hsbc/ police and visa and still there!

Why do you think HSBC or your local plod have the power to control the internet?

once upon a time they sold pizzas...

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So many things wrong with that site, but the interwebz is stuffed with such iffy sites, one needs to really develop a 'spidey-sense' and avoid anything that just doesn't quite make sense.
I'm sorry, but a website that's purportedly about farmhouse pizza in Stoneleigh, but is selling Vans in London really ought to raise eyebrows.

You're a fraudsters best friend Coconut

I'll keep you in mind if I ever take up that profession.

unlucky man. Presume everything is a scam on the internet. The website won't get taken down I don't think, he couldn't have got many sales with that url

So now it gets more murkey...

today an international delivery is waiting for me at local post office. I open the shoe box from China and they have sent me a pair for fake nike in size 11. I ordered vans in 11. The shoes are clearly fake. My guess is they retain the recorded postage to use if investigated for fraud.

I have to tell visa on Monday if I have received any goods as they require 15 days before a refund.... um..!!! Clearly a scam but very long winded. I assume they do this quite often thinking no one will send back to China and they have proof some shoes were sent to me.

My guess is they send everyone fake 10$ shoes and pocket the 55$. If investigated they claim they sent the wrong pair by accident and you need to send to china for a refund or new pair.

website still running. Not even any contact from police cyber guys on 101...

Did you have to sign for it then? You can't surely expect personal attention from the police cyber-team type folks so soon - basically just contact your card issuer & tell them you've either had nothing or what you've been sent is clearly fake.

Not even any contact from police cyber guys on 101...

101 is not CSI: Internet. It is just a logging service really, you will not hear anything back from them.

Often, we get our hands on new items even before they are released to the public. Then we begin the process creating the finest brand style available. [b]Our customers are usually amazed at the quality of the products they receive.[/b]

Did you have to sign for it then?

no. There is no evidence I have the shoes. The Nike don't fit anyway. Will just tell Vias they sent fake shoes and get the money back 24 hrs later.

Sure I don't expect the police to spring into action but this site has been operating for 120 days and there are others out there who have been scammed as well, found a few online straight away. How about suggestions for getting it taken down ?

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How about suggestions for getting it taken down ?

Honestly, I would just give up. This is the problem the police are facing with online fraud, unless it's something serious enough to get the big boys involved, then there's usually naff all they can do.

I guess you could report them to all the money services they offer on their website, but I wouldn't expect much to happen.

As for the future, just post on here first and let the more internet savvy users check a prospective site out for you.

Sure I don't expect the police to spring into action but this site has been operating for 120 days and there are others out there who have been scammed as well, found a few online straight away. How about suggestions for getting it taken down ?

Without going into too much detail about how the internet works, this is really really hard to do, and they could get it up and running on another URL in seconds.

Maybe you could hire a botnet via the dark web to hit it with a DDoS, or find someone to hack into it for you and bring it down. But as mentioned, they'd just bring it back up elsewhere.

this is really really hard to do, and they could get it up and running on another URL in seconds.

This essentially. People just have to be far more savvy than they are currently when buying online. Stick to tried and trusted sites. Or go to bricks and mortar shops if you're not sure.

Natural selection in action IMO....

Natural selection in action IMO....

What a delightfully dickish thing to say.

Natural selection in action IMO....

Trainer selection in action IMO....

p.s Darwin wasn't around when trainers were, but keep reading your get to that bit soon.

I'm going to hazard a guess the Ioddrik isn't an Evolutionary Biologist. Either that or Coconut is posting from beyond the grave. (Does this mean STW has added Seance functionality as well as PMs?)