Sausage rolls "gateway to obesity"

The vegetarian scotch egg bajis from costco 🤤 They're about the only thing worth buying there mind, but almost worth the membership fee alone.

I'm still ashamed, but also quietly proud, of my lasagne binge over the Christmas break. I love a good sausage roll, but lasagne is what will kill me.

Sesame seeds on a sausage roll!?!?

I’m still ashamed, but also quietly proud, of my lasagne binge over the Christmas break. I love a good sausage roll, but lasagne is what will kill me.

Me too. Best dish ever. Food of the gods.

Sesame seeds on a sausage roll!?!?

Sure.  Healthy then, innit.

So, eating a lot of convenience foods lead to eating a lot of convenience foods, concludes study conducted by a 16-year old.

One of the Metro's more robust pieces of journalism, really.

(Aside: since when is a bacon butty "ultra-processed"? It's a fried slice of pig in bread with a bit of salt. What are we supposed to eat, raw gravel?)

vegetarian scotch egg bajis

Are you sure those words are supposed to be together?

Gateway, the ohh so delicious gate way.

Are you sure those words are supposed to be together?

Think ....scotch egg, but with the mashed up pig swapped for onion baji.

I’m no saint but i have moved away from white flour/vegetable fat/refined sugars to the point that a greasy Greggs sausage roll would probably make me feel a bit sick (not that i have ever eaten anything from Greggs)

I call it ‘brown food’ still have a fried breakfast now and again or croissants with jam and a coffee on the side for a sugar/caffeine wake-up but having watched somebody with a poor diet have a heart attack and become diabetic at 45 a few years back was all the incentive i needed.

still eat crisps though..

Cougar. The white flour in the roll has had a lot of processingnto remove much of its nutrients and often has sugar and salt added and the bacon has been pumped full of water salt and nitrites iirc

As well as the gateway to obesity, remember the "window to weight gain"

Star Bar from the garage = I am entering a fat phase

Beige foods snacks turn people on to the beige-etarian lifestyle, eh?

Why, whodathunkit 🙄

You shouldn't eat scotch eggs. The amount of sausage meat they have to force feed scotch chickens to make them lay is cruel. It's like fois gras for hens.

I tried finding the study as I'm genuinely surprised that Sausage Rolls are a big thing in Florida...

While I might have some doubts about a study by a 16 Yr old school kid I have to admire her for this...

The new findings come from 452 participants ages 13 to 19 in the Processed Intake Evaluation (PIE) study.

https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/teens-ate-less-ultra-processed-food-consumption-during-pandemic

You shouldn’t eat scotch eggs. The amount of sausage meat they have to force feed scotch chickens to make them lay is cruel. It’s like fois gras for hens.

You've just given me a business idea.

You just can’t get away from the fact that a Greggs sausage roll is the ideal chaser to a cheese and onion pasty or a steak bake.

It is the single whisky to their pint of Stella

So it’s not really a gateway, more a back door

So it’s not really a gateway, more a back door

A back door sausage roll?

I try and stay healthy by having a vegetable bake as the chaser to my steak bake.

Ooooh,someone mentioned lasagne.we do a lucky dip lasagne which is made up of leftovers from from curries, chillies,spagbols and meatballs.
Choose a portion and see what you get!!!

Can I get these vege scotch egg bhaji things at a normal shop? V-curious…

Lasagne is positively healthy compared to the bolegnase Parmo which is basically a lasagne with the pasta sheets replaced by deep fried chicken and chips.
Bloody lovely.

I’ve never had a parmo but they sound bloody amazing!!

I’ve heard rumour that it Scotlandshire you can get lasagna pies, though I have never yet experienced such a wonder

I did have the carb-coma of a Mac and cheese pie while I was up there last year though and it was awesome as it sounds

Thankfully I’m more of a Scotch egg kinda guy.

- although Scotch Eggs, especially vegetarian baji style, are ultra processed foods. Enjoy it if you want, but don't mistake it for healthy.

@binners
From Gainsford chippy, which is an experience in itself too.

I grew up in proper pasty land in the era of Horse & Jockey by which all Pasty's are measured short of.

Kin ell that looks a treat 👍🏼

I’ve heard rumour that it Scotlandshire you can get lasagna pies, though I have never yet experienced such a wonder

Wandered into our local bakery for some sourdough and came out with a hot beef fajita pie, was bloody amazing.

What were we talking about?

Im not sure i would ever have classed sausage rolls as ultra-processed. Maybe the supermarket brands.

From working as a butcher so many years its one of the products we made ourselves, and there was little to making them. Some minced lamb or beef, seasonings, onion and pastry, a bit of egg yoke to glaze

Couple of angled cuts to let the steam out.

I sometimes think they just include foods to promote ever changing ideals or trends..

I’ve heard rumour that it Scotlandshire you can get lasagna pies, though I have never yet experienced such a wonder

Didn't someone on STW make (invent?) a lasagne pie forever ago? One of the Drs maybe, DrP or DrJ? Maybe on a National Pie Week thread of years past.

Up here, west of Glasgow, the Gregg's sausage roll is locally known as a "Govan dummy". Nature versus nurture?

It's the low quality meat wrapped in huge amounts of pastry. that's the problem.

It’s the low quality meat wrapped in huge amounts of pastry. that’s the problem secret.

FTFY.

To be fair, the quality of the meat itself won't have any real effect on the nutritional value, or even the taste. Thing is that sausages usually have a lot of fat and preservatives, plus the pastry is basically just white flour and butter, and whatever sauce you have it with will have lots of sugar and salt. That's why they are so delicious.

Im not sure i would ever have classed sausage rolls as ultra-processed

The ultra-processed label (if they're using the Brazilian scale) is anything with 5 or more ingredients in it. French baguette would not be an ultra-processed food by this measure (white flour (no improvers), salt, yeast and water). One of the older (pre 2021) Angry Chef blog posts has more on this.

Another Scottish one,very much in the spirit of battered Mars bars is the Scotch Creme Egg.
Being a veggie I've not tried one but I like the idea, might try to make my own with some falafel in place of the meat

I'm fat and I don't even care about sausage rolls that much, can't remember the last time I had one. So I think this study is bogus.

Jaffa cakes however ....

The ultra-processed label (if they’re using the Brazilian scale) is anything with 5 or more ingredients in it.

I noticed a TV advert for Birds Eye Green Cuisine Chicken Free Dippers the other day and was curious about what they are made from. This is it: Powered by plants, Meat-Free, Source of Protein and Fibre, No artificial colours or flavours, Suitable for Vegans

Or in other words:

Rehydrated Pea Protein (27%), Water, Flour (Wheat, Maize), Vegetable Oil (Rapeseed, Palm, Sunflower), Wheat Gluten (4%), Gelling Agent (Calcium Alginate), Stabiliser (Methylcellulose), Citrus Fibre, Natural Flavourings, Maize Starch, Salt, Raising Agents (Disodium Diphosphates, Sodium Carbonates), Potato Protein, Dextrose, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Maltodextrin, Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin

It's a good job that they are green and meat free otherwise people might think that they are unhealthy!

This is why you should stick with the sausage rolls

You know where you are with a sausage roll

Fat and happy (personally speaking)

Calcium Carbonate

Yum, powdered chalk, as added to all white flour by law since 1940.

I’m fat and I don’t even care about sausage rolls that much, can’t remember the last time I had one. So I think this study is bogus.

Jaffa cakes however ….

I'll see you your Jaffa cakes and raise you Marmite flavoured cashews....

Wrong thread, never mind.

Our splendid king out touching the great unhosed.

Wrong thread maybe?

I bet Charles likes a sausage roll

Probably something a bit more upmarket than Greggs, but still…

I have tried to drop most of my UHPF’s. 3kg off in a month.

There is a ten part BBC podcast oh the subject. By the twin Dr brothers, it’s really good, and one on processed bread on the Food Programme I think.

I eat healthy 80/20, but i think food has changed since we were kids. Some for the good and some not so.

I say eat good stuff most of the time and then 20% eat what you want. I love a good sausage roll 😬

I'm surprised no one has suggested this

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/08/flake-news-what-is-a-sausage-roll-cake-and-why-does-it-exist

Is it a sausage roll?  Is it a cake?  Or is it even a lasagne?

Mrs 100th used to be on shift with a guy who would have a macaroni pie in a roll. Triple carbs. His idea of a salad also had a pie in it, just to add to the cardiac issues these are scotch pies.

Probably something a bit more upmarket than Greggs, but still…

No Greggs in Windsor, but there is the fabulous Heidi bakery in Daniels. And Daniels holds a Royal Warrant.

Now if they had trialled mini pork pies, that would have been more interesting.

There is a ten part BBC podcast oh the subject. By the twin Dr brothers, it’s really good,

It was excellent, I listened to it after a recommendation on here

I personally wouldn't ever buy a sausage roll from a bakers, Greggs or otherwise.

Not good.

Get them out your local butchers, much better.

I personally wouldn’t ever buy a sausage roll from a bakers, Greggs or otherwise

Then you’re massively missing out on some bloody lovely stuff. Why in the name of all that is holy would you not buy a sausage roll from a bakers? A lot of them are bloody good at them. The clue’s in the name

I’m surprised no one has suggested this

Yes, amazed it hasn't got its own thread. Oh...

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/sausage-roll-cake/

Why in the name of all that is holy would you not buy a sausage roll from a bakers?

Because he is, or was, a butcher. (IIRC)

There’s a reason Gregg’s sausage rolls come in a pack of four, and it’s not for sharing!

I made sausage rolls for the 1st time the other day. Holy crap they were amazing and so easy to make. Nicer than the poshest sausage roll I've ever bought from a deli. The sausage meat wasn't a fancy one and quite fatty, i added a line of crack lao gan ma crispy chilli oil to one and homemade tomato chilli jam to the other and topped both with a little cheddar. Dangerous and definitely a gateway to something if not careful.

I keep some of the Iceland Greggs sausage rolls in the freezer for emergencies,there’s only so much Mediterranean diet you can take 🙂

I’ve missed the Christmas special ones thou.

Cornish Pasties are my gateway food fosho.

Anyway getting back on topic not sure why they’ve targeted sausage rolls as a gateway foood and tbh it’s just calories like all the other shite people eat, you could make a salad worse if you added enough sweet sauces and pasta,cheese etc.

Anyway getting back on topic not sure why they’ve targeted sausage rolls as a gateway foood and tbh it’s just calories like all the other shite people eat, you could make a salad worse if you added enough sweet sauces and pasta,cheese etc.

Standard distraction bollocks though isn't it?

People are eating more than they're burning and this is simy tip toeing around the fact that a great many people without good reason are idle, we've been on a sedentary arc for quite a while.

Welcome to the downside of all that body positive bullshit.

Anyway getting back on topic not sure why they’ve targeted sausage rolls as a gateway food

I think because a Greggs sausage roll is used as a benchmark for all kinds of things as they sell about 7 squllion of them a day. Theres an absolutely fascinating documentary about this. I know you're not meant to let light in on magic, but...

Inside Greggs: Britain's Best Bakery

you could make a salad worse if you added enough sweet sauces and pasta,cheese etc.

When Maccy D's introduced salads they did exactly this and they ended up, famously, with a higher calorie count than having a burger

Why in the name of all that is holy would you not buy a sausage roll from a bakers?

Its the level  of meat content. Considerably lower compared to from a Butchers.

For example in a butchers, a sausage roll might have about 60% meat(or higher, in somewhere like greggs its under 20%. BUT, you need to keep in mind what the law says constitutes as meat. Fat is effectively meat. Its because its not listed as 'lean' meat.

Another example would be a 'steak bake' there it's about 30% but this is a bit misleading, because the gravy is also classed as meat.

I've made a lot of sausages,so i understand what is in them and the law concerning what constitutes meat content  but in one place we made commercial bakers sausage, and that i would judge is 80% pure fat. I was a bit taken aback by what goes into them and how different it is from the products we make in retail sales, so on that I've vowed never to touch the stuff.

I made sausage rolls for the 1st time the other day.

Simple to do. There are pics of my efforts on the last thing made thread (marmite and cheddar sausage rolls and cheddar and chilli jam sausage rolls). I make them infrequently to stop us being house sized! (Forum search not working so I'm struggling to find the link).

@dyna-ti - I know exactly what you're saying (the butchers down the road does an absolutely awesome chorizo sausage roll) but surely its not exclusively meat content that makes up the joy and wonder that is a sausage roll?

We could soon get a militant baker on the thread saying 'PFFT! What the bloody hell would a butcher know about making pastry'

I'm equal opportunities myself. I'll eat any sausage roll from butchers, bakers and ... erm... possibly not candlestick makers. But you never know.... 😀

Aye, don't confuse a waxy feel with a greasy feel...