[Closed] Rumour Content - Boris to Resign in Jan??

It's a rumour that has been endlessly speculated upon for ages, de Pfeffel falls on his sword after taking us into a no dead Brexit and leaves the door open to one of several completely delightful and not at all incompetent candidates who don't lack ambition.

Personally, I'd have been happy for chaos with Ed Miliband.

I thought the only thing unknown about this was the actual date of departure?

I wonder which group in parliament would benefit from spreading that sort of rumour. Especially if Brexit wasn't going their way and their leaders now felt more confident under public scrutiny than they did over the summer.

None of us (unless we're Tory party members that is) will get any say in who inherits the top job. The contenders are a pretty weak bunch.

Raab
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogue

Patel
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogue

Gove
Pros: Erm
Cons: He's Gove

Sunak:
Pros: He's not Gove
Cons: He's an idealogue

Doing it now would only throw his successor under the bus too.
There will be an improvement in things at some point* (when we have some vacines and some food to eat, maybe in the spring) where he will tearfully resign and allow someone else to take the reins and heroicly lead us into recovery.
Remember that his hero and idol Sir Winston was fairly quick to depart following the end of the war, even as the victors we had suffered terribly and needed a scapegoat. He returned 5 years later...

*probably still worse than life pre 2016, but better than the last 12 months.

hoping for Sunak, praying it isnt Gove, sensible money is probably Raab.

EDIT - forgot about Priti, as the highest ranking woman there's merit to selecting her as a very obvious visual change to boris to help give the impression of a fresh start

It's been mooted for some time but I don't expect anybody really knows.

Not even tomhoward, believe it or not.

He looks pretty resigned and has certainly given up.

I have by 31st March as a banker bet.

The cowardly shit is going to deliver a No Deal for the disaster capitalist vultures, trouser a fortune to keep his coterie of exes and illegitimate offspring happy and walk off into the sunset.

And all because little Alexander's play at being a Churchill tribute act hasn't gone how he'd have liked it to. The Bullshit Bus is out of road and the driver is fleeing the scene before he is breathalysed.

**** him.

The nightmare is that we are going to get someone who is intentionally a nasty piece of work instead.

It would not surprise in the slightest if he Cameron'd out of number 10 on the 1st of Jan - job's done, payment is on the way, and he wants cuddles from Nanny as everyone's being simply beastly.

Remember that his hero and idol Sir Winston was fairly quick to depart following the end of the war, even as the victors we had suffered terribly and needed a scapegoat.

To be fair he fought a general election but lost it. It wasn't his choice to depart.

I can't wait to see the back of these.....it's been 3 terms of utter disaster.

This particular bunch of Tories have caused enormous amounts of damage to this country and should be held accountable.

I wouldn't like any of the above to stand in...in fact i couldnt tell you a single member of the current party that i think 'they're a capable person who knows their subject matter with some well thought out ideas!'.

Raab
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogue

Patel
Pros: Erm
Cons: Thick and an idealogue

Gove
Pros: Erm
Cons: He’s Gove

Sunak:
Pros: He’s not Gove
Cons: He’s an idealogue

Hunt? Best of a bad bunch IMO. But you;re probably right, he's ruffled a lot of feathers chairing the health Select Committee.

This is a rumour on twitter - I guess the question is whether it's all from the same source of BS or not... it's not impossible though, he only wanted to be PM for his own glorification and when brexit is 'done' he can kid himself and his mates that he achieved something. He'll have a column in a newspaper writing racist jibes and loafing about.

A better rumour would be that he goes straight to Rehab.

He's not exactly going to want to spend more time with his family.

He’s not exactly going to want to spend more time with his family.

Which one?

A better rumour would be that he goes straight to Rehab.

Piffle paffle wiffle waffle er er er Churrrrchill er er Wiinston Churrrrchill er er piffle paffle er er he er would never have gone to rehab er NEVER. He was a er er True Brit er er...

Followed by him going into rehab on the sly and taking out a super injunction to prevent it being reported.

Hypocritical, fake, insubstantial piece of political flotsam.

He'll not be in the job much longer - but i can't see him going in Jan.
He's now tarnished with both Brexit and their appalling handling of COVID, and letting him go too soon just tarnishes his successor.

My guess is April/May time.
I'll be just as pleased to see the back of Matt Handcock and Gavin Williamson as whoever succeeds Boris will surely get rid of these two muppets to the back benches.

I reckon the Party will go for Sunak, as they believe the public feel he's done a good job through COVID and comes across as both educated & trust-worthy.
Whereas Boris is basically Trump with slightly better literacy skills.

Seeing as the Tory-loving press are turning on him right now I'd say it may not be under his control when he goes if he does any more damage.

Only way I could see him going in Jan is if he jumps before he's pushed.

The party won't get its shit together to force the matter by then.

IMO.

Definitely going, he'll take blame for Brexit and the shite handling of Covid.

January is a long way away.

Come January the only thing he will have in common with Churchill is 70,000 civilian deaths on his watch. And at least Churchill had the excuse of WW2.

The words frying pan and fire spring to mind. If he goes then the available options all seem worse.

There needs to be some sort of "three strikes and your out" deal here. If you can't manage to keep your party together for more than 12 consecutive months then let the other side have a go instead.

Whoever thought that letting journalists, PR people and fire place sales people run a country was good idea?*

* and, yes, I know the answer was "us".

I would suggest it's more wishful thinking. He knows his reputation is in the sewer, he'll want to dig himself out before he goes. So it will be the "men in suits" that will decide his fate

The parallels with the former chief constable of GMP are there to see

I thought the only thing unknown about this was the actual date of departure?

Yep, been talked about on here for months. The Tories need him to hang on a bit beyond January to take the blame.

Jeremy Hunt has been keeping out of the line of fire the last year or so, letting others get their hands dirty with Covid and Brexit

Gotta feel for the guy, he worked so hard to get the job and it probably didn't turn out to be all that he hoped.

I'd like a general election. The fixed term parliament act has been a total disaster for the country.

The fixed term parliament act has been a total disaster completely ignored for the country.

There has never really been a way to stop a government with a working majority having an election whenever the hell it wants, nor a way to make a government with a working majority to have an election when it doesn't want. If we don't have yet another early election again this term, it's because the Conservatives have an 80% majority, and don't want one. If/when they want one, they'll have one.

Sunak or Hunt would be my thoughts.
Sunak is the shiny new contender who saved us all with furlough and is the man of the people.
Hunt has at least talked some semblance of sense occasionally, though that's not a high bar.

Raad and Williamson will not come out of this well and I'm not sure even the Tory party are stupid enough to elect Patel.

Gove is an interesting one, you have to remember he doesn't need to fight an election for 4 years so popularity isn't important in the short to mid term. Gove would is not good in front of the public, but arguably doesn't need to be. A scary thought.

I think March time was in the plans but the way things have deteriorated in the last few days I suspect he’s been handed the whisky and the revolver this afternoon.

Priti please!

That would make me very, very happy.

the man of the people

Splutter!

I suppose you mean... "Wetherspoons would like you to think of him as a man of the people". Which is true enough.

Sunak clearly fancies it and did position himself well to begin with, but showed his true colours flip-flopping on furlough.

Not to mention that disasterous and facile "Eat Out To Help Out" bollocks.

He's just another sociopathic Tory **** IMO.

Bet Theresa May wishes she'd waited a few years now..

I think the next incumbent will want to hang fire until the vaccine is rolled out. The ideal time to take over would be as things start to improve. Ride a general feeling of positivity and hope.

That said they all stabbed each other in the back to lead us out of Europe so it's power at any cost for some of them.

In terms of rivalling Starmer at the next election Sunak would seem the obvious choice. But he's probably a bit tanned and I'm not sure Brexit Britain could bring themselves to vote for him.

I thought the only thing unknown about this was the actual date of departure?

He'll 'Get Brexit Done' as Dom made him promise, then he'll 'Do a Dave' and hang around for as long as that **** did after delivering the referendum

So, gone by January 2nd, leaving complete chaos in his wake

Somewhat unbelievably, as with the last two times, whoever follows him will be even worse

Sunak is probably richer than Donald Trump. Not really a man of the people.

I actually feel sorry for boris, got the job he always wanted, new baby, getting married next year.

But someone's got to take the responsibility for the void handling, he s been poor from day 1. Ironic really that domm Cummings got him in the job, and mainly responsible for his downfall.

Is Boris an alcoholic, no smoke without fire it's hinted at q a lot.

Poor guy looked knackered a month ago, better now but I thought he may resign on health grounds.

I actually feel sorry for boris

You really shouldn't. He got the job he felt entitled too as he felt it was his birthright

He was stratospherically useless at it on account of being a lazy, ****less pisshead who regarded his previous job of writing a newspaper column once a week as too much like hard work

He'll be gone in January to spend more time with his money

I should have put "man of the people" in inverted commas, it's how he tries to come across rather than how he is.

Realistically, it'll be Gove as that's what we deserve...

Realistically, it’ll be Gove as that’s what we deserve…

Haha, maybe we do.

Scarily, he'd probably do the best job.

Sunak is probably richer than Donald Trump. Not really a man of the people.

His wife’s family have the vast majority of it though.

I'd like to see him actually start the job never mind resign from it. Fat oaf has been MIA since his wet dream came true.

Sunak’s family is probably richer than Donald Trump*. Not really a man of the people.
*Not difficult, nowadays.

 

press conference at 5

Patel advocating concentration camps

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/priti-patel-plans-dump-300-23194180

got to work well with the party faithful.

He’ll be gone in January to spend more time with his money

Which is probably the most likely reason for him going since its been repeatedly reported he isnt coping well on the tiny salary of the PM especially after the divorce.
I am still unsure. I cant see anyone wanting to boot him out just yet since its a bit of a poisoned chalice. Better to wait another year or so before doing so and pretending to be a fresh broom.
However I think him choosing to go now he has ticked of being PM and having "seen through brexit" is a possibility. Although on the flipside he might be dreaming of the history books and concluded that he will regain ground and turn himself into a glorious leader once the pandemic is past or at least under control.

Holyrood elections are currently scheduled for May 2021. That might be another to head off soon or, alternatively, for him to hang on and carry the can for those results too.

Just imagine if Patel gets the top job..stw would literally go into meltdown..

It would actually be quite funny to witness, other than the fact that she's an unempathetic, cruel, stupid, hypocritical beast of a woman, without a shred of human decency

and she looks like a weeble...

I actually feel sorry for boris

You mean Alexander - I.e his real name that his family and friends know him by?

Don't. He's a compulsive liar and a cheat. A freewheeling goodtime boy who wants everyone to love him, even while he's smashing up their restaurant Bullingdon style.

He only got his chance to live out his pathetic and cringeworthy Churchill fetish because of Brexit - a pack of lies sold to the gullible by crooks. He rode that horse out of personal ambition. Nothing more.

He deserves to go on trial one day for what he has done to this country in the last five years with his ****less chumocracy. He's a raging hypocrite who endorses sacrifice - so long as it someone else's. He has lived his life like a feudal lord helping himself to the wenches on the estate, offspring everywhere. Personally (and you may have already guessed this) I despise him.

Yet another pompous, opportunistic arse who spotted a quick way up the ladder to a job he is in no way capable of. Meanwhile every bugger else suffers for his inadequacy.

Just imagine if Patel gets the top job..stw would literally go into meltdown..

It would actually be quite funny to witness, other than the fact that she’s an unempathetic, cruel, stupid, hypocritical beast of a woman, without a shred of human decency

and she looks like a weeble…

She would just be another inept joke. Albeit one who really enjoys being nasty.

But like all Brexit True Believers her stupidity makes her unsuitable.

But like all Brexit True Believers her stupidity makes her unsuitable.

The problem is the only people choosing whether someone is unsuitable for the next few years are tory party members.
Many of whom share the same true believer position.

Which is probably the most likely reason for him going since its been repeatedly reported he isnt coping well on the tiny salary of the PM especially after the divorce.

I too have seen this reported. Apparently a prime minister's salary does not go far in funding an undisclosed number of child support payments.

I too have seen this reported. Apparently a prime minister’s salary does not go far in funding an undisclosed number of child support payments.

Not when you have to spend so much money obtaining super injunctions, certainly.

and she looks like a weeble…

...only from the neck down binners said. (I think it was binners, apologies if not).

His wife’s family have the vast majority of it though.

She's has assets larger than the value of the UK fishing industry. Just some perspective there. Oh and that same industry has a smaller turnover than Harrods.

He won't resign. Has wanted it too long.

Boris will go early in the new year. He’ll be replaced by an over eager second tier moron as a holding pattern while the real contender gets his sh@t together and “rides to the rescue”.

"Rides to the rescue"?
So we'll get Gove on an interim basis until Jacob Rees Mogg takes control and we all end up in the 1800's being ruled by the upper class (a bit like now, but with more pomposity).

while the real contender gets his sh@t together and “rides to the rescue”

If only there was a glimmer of hope anywhere close to that, it would be something to look forward to.

Look to the horizon, who do you see?

Where are these good people/party that will set in place a return to some form of stability?

There are none, no one is coming

I truly believe that this year has been such a plane crash that even Labour/Starmer don’t want the gig ,they look like they are waiting for the country to hit ground zero, then people might beg them to give it a go.

Hunt's obviously doing some positioning. It's funny, with Hunt as health secretary we'd probably have handled Covid far better but also he'd have used the opportunity to privatise the entire NHS. Hancock's absolutely incompetent of course, incapable of even following his own most basic instructions like "Don't sneeze all over your colleagues in the House of Commons" but I think sometimes that's still preferable to someone that's actually pretty capable in his way, and absolutely bloody horrendous.

Say what you like about Hancock, he doesn't see a disaster and think "how can I use this" like some politicians. He thinks "oh shit oh shit oh shit"

ayjaydoubleyou
Free Member

Remember that his hero and idol Sir Winston was fairly quick to depart following the end of the war, even as the victors we had suffered terribly and needed a scapegoat. He returned 5 years later…

The thing is though, Johnston doesn't actually idolise Churchill at all. He idolises his imaginary Churchill, the same one that starred in the weird work of alternative historical fiction The Churchill Factor (the Churchill who invented the RAF and saved the world after the fall of Stalingrad...) Partly because he couldn't be bothered to do even basic research before starting writing, and partly because it's almost entirely projection. When he asks "what would Churchill do" the answer is always "Whatever I want to do, that's what Churchill'd do". which is why he never struggles with the idea of invoking Churchill for Brexit, something that Actual Churchill would have opposed but which Fantasy Churchill loves to bits.

I might set up a Gofundme for him. Just enough to get a hair-triggered and dirty Webley service revolver with a single round in the chamber, and a bottle of knock-of gin that's more methanol than ethanol.

He won’t resign. Has wanted it too long.

I keep saying this. Talk of him resigning in Jan is for the birds. He may get pushed out later in the year, and quite likely before the next general election, but he’s not giving up the crown and admitting defeat just because the transition period has ended… he won’t resign because he’s damaging the UK… he has none of the honour required to do that.

Hunt’s obviously doing some positioning. It’s funny, with Hunt as health secretary we’d probably have handled Covid far better but also he’d have used the opportunity to privatise the entire NHS.

Indeed

A few years ago (before the leadership contest) a friend’s daughter did a lot of work at Westminster with Hunt.

By all accounts,not a nice individual and a bit of a raging power freak off camera.

I wasn’t surprised.

He won’t resign. Has wanted it too long

It's absolutely this. And pver the next four years he is going to pull a Trump and work on being in charge forever as is his divine right.

poolman
Free Member
I actually feel sorry for boris, got the job he always wanted, new baby, getting married next year.

Blood on his hands. I don't feel an ounce of sorrow for him.

Leading a nation off a cliff edge with the EU during a national emergency reeks of religious zealotry, for that's all Brexit is, a malignant religion.

He is utterly culpable and history will judge him so.

Johnson has no intention of sticking around when the 'fun' has gone - just ask any of his exes.

Gone by 31st March - our very own Chancellor Von Papen.

I reckon BoJo is eyeing up an opportunity to be POTUS in 4 years time. I imagine the GOP would welcome him with open arms.

I reckon BoJo is eyeing up an opportunity to be POTUS in 4 years time. I imagine the GOP would welcome him with open arms.

No, but I imagine we will see the nauseating spectacle of Dominic 'Cumstains' Cummings resurfacing with a nasty spray tan on the Melania 2024 campaign.

He has a track record in weaponising a nation's latent stupidity, so I imagine he'd go down a storm.

Johnson will just be given a safe bolt hole there to retire in comfort to whilst 'his' country burns.

If he can't afford to pay his child maintenance, how's he going to fund a multi-billion dollar White House campaign?

It's not going to happen.

It's not going to happen anyway - you have to be born in USA to be president, hence Trump leading the "birther" movement that claimed Barack Obama faked hi birth certificate.

And these guys don't pay for their election campaigns they grift money off donors and then spend the time in office channelling public money back to them.

It’s not going to happen anyway – you have to be born in USA to be president,

He was born in New York - although I don't think he's got citizenship.

And these guys don’t pay for their election campaigns they grift money off donors and then spend the time in office channelling public money back to them.

and what do you think the PPE (etc) procurement scandal is...

Boris was actually born in the US.

@hels - I'm aware of the funding but 2 things prevent this.

He's not got enough cash to start the campaign and even in the US there aren't enough idiots to pay for his campaign as most people don't know who he is

America would never stand for a British president (even with a US connection). Been on any US forums recently? Their sole opinion of Brits is that we all have awful teeth.

Realistically, it’ll be Gove as that’s what we deserve…

There is no way that it will be Gove to replace Boris. Do your really think that the "little England" Tory faithful will vote for a Scot?

he will be off sharpish in the new year

It’s not going to happen anyway – you have to be born in USA to be president

He was and until reasonably recently was actually a US citizen although he gave that up for tax purposes.
So I think he was valid once but possibly not any longer since not sure whether you can reclaim citizenship and it would be a bugger for the campaign anyway "He gave up US citizenship for PROFIT!!!"