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Well?

I'm certainly a rule breaker.

What category are you in?
Interested following a conversation regarding people who follow rules, despite knowing they are wrong.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:32 pm
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I make my own rules, then break them.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:34 pm
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Rule breaker (but only when they're just daft)


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:34 pm
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Quite often a rule maker tbh. Happily break them when they're stupid, keep them when they're good.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:36 pm
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What kind of rules are we talking about here? Don't fart in a lift? Obey speed limits?


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:36 pm
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I rake the boules.

It's a shit job but someone has to do it.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:36 pm
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What kind of rules are we talking about here?

Basic 10 Commandment stuff eg Though shall not kill etc etc


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:37 pm
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i have one basic rule. don't take the piss. if you follow that everything generally works out ok


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:38 pm
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I only break the stupid nonsensical ones...so pretty much most EU directives.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:39 pm
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I'm never entirely sure what the rules are (velominati aside)


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:40 pm
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After climbing over a gate which had a "No public access" sign in Scotland many years ago, I asked a local about the sign.

"Oh that's just there for people who like to obey signs"


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:43 pm
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I bet there far far more people who label themselves as rule beakers, than actually break the rules. It is just one of the most basic self fantasies that everyone believes differentiates them from everyone else.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:43 pm
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I once fooled a hake.


 
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I bet there far far more people that label themselves as rule beakers, than actually break the rules. It is just one of the most basic self fantasies that everyone believes differentiates them from everyone else.

Like the way the desk sign "You don't have to be crazy to work here but it helps" is a sure sign of a stuck-up bore.

I keep trying to break the laws of gravity, no luck so far,


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:44 pm
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I once fooled a hake.

Do you make a habit of fooling fish? Confused a carp? Flummoxed a flounder? Bamboozled a bream?


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:46 pm
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If I'm passing a Belgian fishmonger, I'll ask him if I can take some moules.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:47 pm
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I follow them unless they are blatantly self-defeating.

If there were no rules there would be anarchy, and few of the internet hardmen would really want that.


 
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I occasionally eat stuff past its use by date...


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:51 pm
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What kind of rules are we talking about here? Don't fart in a lift? Obey speed limits?

If you have to ask, you aren't a rule breaker.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:51 pm
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Let's face it every one who drives a car is a rule breaker.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:52 pm
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Always happy to break the Rules set by rich Victorians


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:54 pm
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Rule breaker. I know it's egotistical, but I have always felt claustrophobic when there are too many rules. Also, it's kind of enjoyable breaking them.

For example:

A mini-roundabout, painted on the road. Queues of cars wishing to drive straight, gently circumnavigating the white painted circle. I just drive over it.

Very satisfying.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:55 pm
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Saxon - you're allowed to do that


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:58 pm
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There is no authority but yourself


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 7:59 pm
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I bet there far far more people who label themselves as rule beakers, than actually break the rules. It is just one of the most basic self fantasies that everyone believes differentiates them from everyone else.

Well, I work on the principle that they're there to be broken, man-made as they are, generally speaking.
I ride bikes on some footpaths in the country, seeing as how they're a legal construct that's only existed since the 1960's, and they're civil law anyway. Footpaths alongside roads, however, no.
I break speed limits, too, where road and conditions allow it; 30 past a school when the kids are coming out, even if allowed, is daft, but if it's outside school hours, no problem. 70 in fog or pouring rain, snow, even if legal, is stupid; the same road in fine, dry conditions, with no traffic, then 80-90, no problem. Common-sense rules.
Laws of nature, on the other hand...
I'm pretty sure the usual suspects will be along to rip me a new one later.
Like I give a toss; I've got to nearly sixty, without killing or seriously injuring myself, or anyone else, by applying common-sense, not stopping now.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:08 pm
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I'm pretty sure the usual suspects will be along to rip me a new one later.

They're too busy masturbating while reading your post over a few times. I nearly cracked one off myself but I'm in the middle of my tea.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 8:10 pm
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At home, a rule breaker, apparently, from the amount of reprimands I'm issued 🙁

At work, well...

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Posted : 19/02/2014 8:16 pm
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"Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men."

Unfortunately it tends to be the idiots who think they can live by this adage.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 9:32 pm
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I set the rules. But they're not for me. They're for everyone else.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 9:50 pm
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In my head Anarchy in the UK plays on constant loop.

In reality I'm depressingly law / rule abiding.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 9:51 pm
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To quote Barbosa, I prefer to think of them more as guidelines.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 10:25 pm
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Well?

I'm certainly a rule breaker.


'course you are.


 
Posted : 19/02/2014 10:36 pm
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Rule follower here, day to day. I think, deep down, we'd all get along and be happier if we just followed the rules a bit more. Formed an orderly queue, deferred to the person who was stood at the bar before you, obeyed red lights. Take your licks when you messed up, and not demand an exception be made.

That's day to day. When it comes to the serious stuff - rules of thought, then it's different. If you're lucky enough to do something creative for a living, you will never have success if you don't break some of the rules, some of the time. The trick is obv knowing which rules, and which time. That's the difference between a contrarian bore that no one listens to, and a visionary.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 12:15 am
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I think, deep down, we'd all get along and be happier if we just followed the rules a bit more

Domestication innit. Fetch the stick, good boy, have a bone. Every time you see a dog remember it used to be a wolf, now it's a pet. Same is true of its owner. Trained over generations for obedience and stupidity and dependence.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:04 am
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I tried breaking the rules once, but the binmen won't come just cause I put mine out on a Monday.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:14 am
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Yeah, except wolves live in organised groups with lots of rules. The analogy doesn't really work.


 
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I'm a wild eyed loner standing at the gates of oblivion, so hitch a ride with me cause I'm on the last freedom moped out of nowhere city!

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Posted : 20/02/2014 9:15 am
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I had a similar thought when getting in the lift at work the other day in that there are 2 types of people (in lifts).

Those that get in and stand by the buttons, and politely ask everyone that enters which floor they would like and those that get in hit the button and step to the back of the lift.

I am the latter, does that make me a bad person?


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:17 am
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Yeah, except wolves live in organised groups with lots of rules.

Which they make for themselves within their groups, because they work, exactly like humans used to. So yeah, the analogy kind of does work.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:30 am
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Rule follower here, day to day. I think, deep down, we'd all get along and be happier if we just followed the rules a bit more. Formed an orderly queue, deferred to the person who was stood at the bar before you, obeyed red lights. Take your licks when you messed up, and not demand an exception be made.

That's day to day. When it comes to the serious stuff - rules of thought, then it's different. If you're lucky enough to do something creative for a living, you will never have success if you don't break some of the rules, some of the time. The trick is obv knowing which rules, and which time. That's the difference between a contrarian bore that no one listens to, and a visionary.

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I think, deep down, we'd all get along and be happier if we just followed the rules a bit more

Domestication innit. Fetch the stick, good boy, have a bone. Every time you see a dog remember it used to be a wolf, now it's a pet. Same is true of its owner. Trained over generations for obedience and stupidity and dependence.

I'm sort of with Gary here, a large majority of rules are there to try and help us all rub along together on a daily basis with the minimum practicable disruption...

Not that I'm against "Rule Breaking" in the right context, for the right reasons sometimes it has to be done, but breaking rules for the sake of it, because you define yourself as a "Rule Breaker" is a bit lame TBH...


 
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[quote=Northwind ]Domestication innit. Fetch the stick, good boy, have a bone. Every time you see a dog remember it used to be a wolf, now it's a pet. Same is true of its owner. Trained over generations for obedience and stupidity and dependence.

Feel free to go back to living in a cave and hunting wild animals to survive if you think that's preferable to having inter-dependence. Of course to type on here you're dependent on STW towers, some Chinese computer manufacturer, some bloke who builds wind turbines, Tim Berners-Lee and not to forget Great Uncle Alfred für das schreiben in Englisch.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:41 am
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Arnold's rules - for following and breaking:

[i]What is the point of being on this earth if all you want to do is be liked by everyone and avoid trouble? The only way I ever got any place was by breaking some of the rules.[/i]


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:47 am
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Feel free to go back to living in a cave and hunting wild animals to survive if you think that's preferable to having inter-dependence.

Yes, that is exactly the choice, either blindly follow all the rules, or live in a cave.

Does anyone doubt that there are more rules in everyday life than we need? That many of these rules aren't made to benefit us personally or society as a whole? Or that many of the others are contradictory or counterproductive or outdated or illconcieved? Following rules that work, because they work, is a requirement of a functioning society, following rules purely because they exist isn't. And following and making rules that don't work is probably a good symptom of a society that doesn't work.

Like the man said, do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:57 am
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Rule Follower.

In my experience [i]most[/i] rules are there for a fairly good reason, often one that isn't immediately obvious.

If you know that reason and [b]then[/b] decide to break it then fair enough.

If you are breaking the rules just because you're a crazy free spirit that doesn't like authority man, then, well, shine on you crazy diamond...

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Alarm mines? That might just be what I need to get me out of bed in the morning, I'll just nip over there and get some...


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 10:11 am
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So many rules today though are just arse covering safety bollocks which are designed to be broked.

My favourite recent one was passing a processor working in the forest, big sign on the jib - KEEP BACK 300M

Not 30M, 300M ...really? Incase the driver is swinging a 200M long tree around on his 100M long boom perhaps?

I passed at a safe distance, good visibility, no other machinery around but the driver still appeared slightly miffed at me. 😕


 
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wilfully neglecting the rules in my line of work will result in being NRB to the location (and thats a best case scenario)


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 10:31 am
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Which they make for themselves within their groups, because they work, exactly like humans used to. So yeah, the analogy kind of does work.

Interesting - yes, I suppose the problem is when groups get too big, people stop thinking that the rules are to benefit society. Especially as often they're not to benefit society as a whole, only a small part of it.


 
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Saxon - you're allowed to do that

Actually its classed as a solid white line and you are ment to manoeuvre all the way round it, as I was told by a court when appealing 3 points and a £60 fine.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 10:35 am
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Rule follower probably

I worry. stupidly worry about stuff I can't help. Do "they" like me, why does no one fancy me, all those stupid fashion things that come down to "does my bum look big in this?" Seriously, I stood in front of a mirror looking at my thigh gap the other day cause it was in one of those stupid mags full of celebs!! I worry about my mum worrying about me.

I took a lid from a yoghurt back to tesco cause I accidentally put it in my bag without paying for it!!

Sad


 
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[quote=bedmaker ]So many rules today though are just arse covering safety bollocks which are designed to be broked.

Like the rules of spelling?


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 10:40 am
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Generally a rule maker and enforcer, which means I have to be a rule follower to present best practice.

I'd like to be a rule breaker, but I honestly think that, at nearly 40, I'm too old for all that malarky. Rule breaking and rebellion is a young man's game. I'd rather be at home with a nice mug of tea and a copy of the Guardian.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 11:40 am
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I'd love to hear a few examples from the dreamy rule breakers (beyond minor traffic infractions and riding on footpaths)


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 12:06 pm
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Run with scissors? Swim after eating? Shoelaces untied?


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 12:30 pm
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bender.

i like to know the rules, so i can interpret them as i see fit.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 1:20 pm
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bender.

Your words, not mine 😀


 
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I've gone up a snake and down a ladder

Had mayo AND ketchup on chips

Done a wee in a swimming pool


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 1:36 pm
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I only break the stupid nonsensical ones...so pretty much most EU directives.

Be interested to hear which ones.


 
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When I finally get round to taking up surfing Immagonna rule the breaks.


 
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> so pretty much most EU directives.

Be interested to hear which ones.

That one about straight bananas?
Oh and the one about it being illegal to sell a dozen rolls?

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Posted : 20/02/2014 1:51 pm
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bedmaker » So many rules today though are just arse covering safety bollocks which are designed to be broked.
Like the rules of spelling?

Exsactly


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 1:53 pm
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I asked the butcher for a pound of Irish sausage and he gave me one.

Rebels.
Without.
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Cause.


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 1:56 pm
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That one about straight bananas?
Oh and the one about it being illegal to sell a dozen rolls?

I'm happy to wake up everyday in the same bed - that's a smack in the face of the EU bureaucrats and their free movement of professionals directive!


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 2:00 pm
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a few examples from the dreamy rule breakers

eat then swim

Eat cheese go to bed

sometimes as many as 12 items in that aisle

Stamp on upsides down - I call that sticking it to the Maam

Just the serious stuff


 
Posted : 20/02/2014 2:11 pm
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eat then swim

Eat cheese go to bed

sometimes as many as 12 items in that aisle

Stamp on upsides down - I call that sticking it to the Maam

Just the serious stuff

Junkyard, earlier today:


 
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Posted : 21/02/2014 9:18 pm
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Anyone who has posted on this forum for a few months and still has the ability to post is a rule follower capable of following both written and unwritten rules.


 
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Having thoroughly enjoyed watching the Lego Movie yesterday evening, I think it covers this topic rather well 😀

Gnarr 🙂


 
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