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I've watched three matches today and at least 10 times I've thought "if this was a WRC 1/4 final, Craig Joubert would have penalised that" and even I would stretch to argue Farrell made a legal tackle.
AA, I actually said to TJ that we would see how Hastings was going, there is no question I would have him in my team before Anscombe. Just to level the playing field, shall we see how he is in 5 years time and 20 caps? I would imagine Hastings will still come across as having much more class and not whine about tops when his side is played off the park.
Hard lesson for hastings out there yesterday - he got the hurry up all game and his inexperienced showed.
Lack of cutting edge cost Scotland - that and a great try scored by wales. If you are camped on the oppositions line you have to get points.
Farrell should be cited. The ref fluffed it. Clear penalty and yellow card for a shoulder charge
AA, I actually said to TJ that we would see how Hastings was going, there is no question I would have him in my team before Anscombe. Just to level the playing field, shall we see how he is in 5 years time and 20 caps? I would imagine Hastings will still come across as having much more class and not whine about tops when his side is played off the park.
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You Scots are funny, Hastings needs a season or two playing club rugby. If he is asked to start the Six Nations it could ruin him. It must be tough keep coming to Cardiff full of expectation and getting ruined by a very average international team.
no expectation for this game
no expectation for this game
Oh come on I think everyone was expecting a close game, I certainly didnt expect Wales to win handily without getting out of second gear.
Was very impressed with Dillon Lewis, he put in a massive shift, if he can be competitive in scrums against stronger teams he could be something very special.
Was nice to see North playing well again, his try was right out of the Cuthbert when he was good play book.
Lydiate was better than I expected, in fact he played very well but Scotlands trundle muppet play works to his strengths.
Parkes has found his level I think...very average.
Anscombe/Patch and their attacking play v Biggars organisation and will to win is going to run and run.
Got to admit I got bored and switched off after 30mins of this game but fark this is a good try...lets hope Ireland keep picking Kearney!!
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Farrell should be cited. The ref fluffed it. Clear penalty and yellow card for a shoulder charge
And the linesman standing next to him that he consulted, and the TMO. But you’d know better right?
No one was hurt, he didn’t prevent a clear scoring opportunity and was judged by three officials not to have committed foul play. Give it a rest, you can enjoy a big England loss next week without having to clutch at straws in the slightest.
I am thinking now though that we have a good chance against the Aussies, this could well be 3 of 4, which looks much better for Eddie.
Shame to see that Pontypool RFC are leaving the park. They have had some amazing games there.
It was a clear pen for no arms in the tackle the ref bottled it. The fact that he tried to wrap may mitigate against further sanction but I wouldnt be surprised to see him cited.
Check out the second video on this link. Mystic Goode
Mystic Goode is on the money
He is indeed on the money about Farrell’s tackle technique. I’m amazed that one of the defence coaches he works with hasn’t be drilling it into him that he needs to tackle lower and not lead with the shoulder because it’s only a matter of time before he sent off for it.
Ireland New Zealand is going to be massive. The All Black first team gave their training ground run out next week and then onto the big event. Despite not being an Ireland supporter, it’s probably the game I’m most looking forward to this autumn.
Ireland New Zealand is going to be massive. The All Black first team gave their training ground run out next week and then onto the big event. Despite not being an Ireland supporter, it’s probably the game I’m most looking forward to this autumn.
+1 looking forward to that and will be cheering on the green machine.
Firstly, although as an ex player I was glad that the hit from Farrell wasn't penalised, it was clearly a penalty in terms of how the game is governed today.
Secondly, it was clear Farrell knew it was a penalty because why else would he collapse to the turf feigning injury?
Thirdly, when will people figure out that Farrell is a terrible defender? He can't tackle properly. At all. See third ABs v Lions test as an example.
He stays upright to go for the glory rip. He tries it most one on one tackles.
Gethin misses the conversion at the end, what a player....
Farrell free to play next week, not that it’ll make a blind bit of difference to the outcome!
Has anyone seen the Jersey Reds try against London Irish? It’s fantastic.
it is on Twitter but can’t figure how to share it.
Farrell not cited? Oh, I was right. And BoD agreed so frankly, that’s better than having god smite your foes with lightning bolts so😛
simply isn’t going to make a difference next weekend, England is going to be smashed. I’ll be behind the sofa with a bottle of something strong!
I can now bear to talk about the scotland game
AA - sorry dude we were al expecting to lose heavily. I don't really know why but it was posted on here and on other rugby places I go. somehow Wales just seem to be our bogey team.
Somehow the team looked flat and were certainly missing that cutting edge. While no player is irreplaceable maybe not having Russell and Hogg there just made the difference. We created plenty of scoring chances but simply could not take them
Hastings - I thought he came thru that very well. Missing an early kick to touch as he did is pretty stupid but he didn't allow it to get to him. Even late on in the game when he was caught in possession and being dragged around he had the presence of mind to get a pass away. He will never had had so little time and space to work in in his life and we a better player for it. Wales rightly targetted him - never unfairly and the obvious tactic. Hastings never panicked or did anything stupid. Didn't create much either. half a dozen times he went to make the pass and realised he couldn't so trucked the ball up and set it up again.
the ponderous trundlemuppetry from the forwards - that was poor. they never looked like breaking the game line. Good defence from Wales as well but really nothing special. Lack of leaders on the field? no one was coming to the ball at poace or trying anything else but tired flops at the line. Watson outstanding again but Wales won the battle of the back rows and won it well. Scotlands back row looked unbalanced and can you give credit to Gatland for a pragmatic selection to nullify the Scot backrow and target young Hastings? He wouldn't normally play that combo would he?
What was special was Wales try. Very well worked move.
Frustrating but not unexpected. disappointed in the lack of leadership on the pitch.
Farrell wasn't cited because it was not a red card - as it clearly wasn't. That does not change the fact it was as clear a penalty for a no arms tackle as you will see and usually worthy of a yellow card. Farrell knew it.
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Tiperic MOM? Wales won the battle of the back rows and thats what won them the game so for me the right call. I'm sure it was him finally caught Hastings in possession ( and even then Hastings got the pass away) after being an utter pain in the ass all game. Watson had a decent game as well but no other stand-outs.
Farrell not cited? Oh, I was right.
You really aren't. He wasn't cited because he didn't make contact with the head, therefore not a red card.
However, it was 100% a penalty and probably a yellow. In no universe could you argue there was an attempt to wrap. His arm was traveling back and down at the point of contact. Unless he decided to scratch his arse mid-tackle there could be no reason for his arm to be going backwards except to lead with the shoulder.
Late to the party, but even before the emphasis on safe tackling, I would have given a yellow for that. I realise that makes me a chippy jock etc but hey-ho. Oh: and THANK GOD he made a full and quick recovery, that England medical team earned their corn there😁
Thanks D D will give that a go, using I pad. X
Tiperic MOM? Wales won the battle of the back rows and thats what won them the game so for me the right call.
What won the game was the Wales defence as a unit completely shutting down Scotland in combination with scoring a couple of nice tries. The Scottish pack were smacked on or behind the gainline and from there kept losing the race round the corner and so lost the next contact too.
He wasn’t cited because he didn’t make contact with the head,
More correctly he wasnt cited as the first contact wasnt with the head. He did make contact with the head.
Totally neutral watching England V SA and I really enjoyed it, not the highest quality test ever but tense right to the end. I was sure Farrell had given away a penalty at the end for a no arm tackle but SA can't complain given some of the assaults they have perpetrated over the years.
SA's 2nd choice hooker must really be crap given Marx was left on the field so long.
Hopefully this result keeps EJ in the job a bit longer!
More bollocks from the guardian -specifically this:
reintroduce Faf de Klerk, Willie le Roux, Vincent Koch, Francois Louw and Franco Mostert,
All could not play against England because they were not released by their English premiership clubs (Sale, Wasps, Sarries, Bath,and Glos). It wasn't a coaching/selection decision was it. And TBH if they were playing things may have been very different as SA were missing their killer instinct.
Plus it is unlikely any of them will be available for the next 3 for the same reason.
Weir has been rewarded for his form with Worcester by a call up to the Scotland squad. Great news for him, less so for Wuss who could do with him for the games against Bath and a Quins.
Weir has been rewarded for being the only other scottish 10.
Brutal man AA. Brutal.😂
Weir has been rewarded for his form with Worcester by a call up to the Scotland squad. Great news for him, less so for Wuss who could do with him for the games against Bath and a Quins.
Bugger! A real problem for Wuss to get a couple of extra points this month which would set them up nicely in the middle of the table. But he's definitely earned his shot.
some of the assaults they have perpetrated over the years.
Jerry Guscott wrote this morning that he identified three high tackles in the match around the neck, 2 by SA and one by Itoje, all went unpunished.
He's also stated that for compose in reverse and go-forward he reckons Farrell will stay starting at 10 as long as we have some centres on the field. Ford comes on as a finisher to flatten the line with fresher runners.
AA that’s harsh! 😂 He has been genuinely very good for Wuss especially after some of the shit signed to play fly half in the past (yes Rayn Lamb, I’m talking about you). The press don’t think he’ll actually play though.
Faf de Klerk is back in the SA squad, bad news for Sale ffs!
Yeah, I read this a few weeks ago, and thought that was it. https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/RugbyChampionship/sale-confirm-faf-is-not-available-for-boks-euro-tour-20181009
If its in the international window they cant stop him surely?
apparently the Irish singer Enya has formed her own rugby team and announced her first three fixtures.
Sale (a)
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(nicked from elsewhere but too good to not share)
If its in the international window they cant stop him surely?
I dunno. I defer.
Some big boyos in Georgia!!
Hogg back for Scotland this weekend.
Some big selection call for Wales Ellis Jenkins back fit could slot into 6 or 7. Thomas Francis at 3, Samson Lee still out. Liam Williams and Josh Adams could play wing and Holmes although I expect the later to feature v Tonga. Biggest call is 10 Anscombe or Biggar and Patchel could be fit too.
Got to love a bit of humour on the tackle from the SA team 🙂
Cardiff reserves beat Uruguay wasnt expecting that!
One for the Gatand haters to froth over.
Wont the Prem teams only have an agreement with the RFU to release players for internationals? So they may not be mandated to do so for international players.
Simmons and Lawes in for England. Ostensibly the same team with a little more grit, it’ll be interesting to see if the front rows are reversed in concern of starting order.
Several pundits feel England will be make it very difficult for the AB’s - I do have a funny feeling last weeks game was a tactical rehearsal - defend hard 1st half then attack in the last, which will mix with the AB’s usual finishing 20 mins a bit.
We’ll still lose.
Simmons and Lawes in for England.
Where did you get this? I can't find any new info on selection? I thought Simmons was injured?
Well, in the Squad. Team announcement is tomorrow.
Wont the Prem teams only have an agreement with the RFU to release players for internationals? So they may not be mandated to do so for international players.
Pretty sure they have to release players during international windows
Well, in the Squad. Team announcement is tomorrow.
Ah OK
International window -I have been looking and found this which doesn't say much. Cant find a definite reference. I thought you were a Ref AA - don't you have access to more resource on this? https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2018/oct/02/club-versus-country-row
EDIT - Found it read all about regulation 9 here.
thought you were a Ref AA
😄😄😄😄😄
I thought Simmons was injured?
He is. Underhill and Lawes are both in.
An article just for a_a (Plus anyone else who's a Ben Smith fan - which should be everybody)
I love Ben Smith worlds best fullback
In that article there is highlights reel of some of his best plays, it is sickening.
New trial TMO principals for this weekend's internationals
- Try scoring should be an on-field decision with the referee being responsible, but the team of four can all contribute.
- The current list of potential infringements for which a TMO can be referred will be retained, but any referral needs to be prompt, clear and consistent.
- The ‘on the run’ chat between the match officials and TMO for foul play will be removed with the onus on the referee, who should only refer to the TMO issues that are clear and obvious serious acts of foul play, including penalty kick, yellow card or red card as a potential sanction in order to protect player welfare
- Match officials can review foul play up to when the game restarts, when a penalty is kicked to touch and when foul play footage becomes available
- Proposal to include live broadcast of the TMO in action.
Well it all works so well at the moment lets enforce even more blindness.
pfft. that's what you get for being on the wrong side of the ball 😉
New Zealand XV: Damian McKenzie; Ben Smith, Jack Goodhue, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane; Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Karl Tu'inukuafe, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Liam Squire, Ardie Savea, Kieran Read
As a dyed in the wool England supporterr I hope Sonny Bill tears O'Teo a new one ...............
Have you seen that Karl prop guy in action? He is a monster. When do Engerland name their team?
Somebody better slip something into their coffee. Novovirus isn't gonna help us this time.
At least their bench looks pretty weak:
Replacements: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty.
Have you seen that Karl prop guy in action? He is a monster
Yeah, made his Super Rugby debut this year in round 5 and only because the Chiefs had umpteen front row injuries.
Brodie Retallick commented, after the first training session with him, that he couldn't believe the power he could feel him generating at scrum time. Said he'd never scrummaged behind a more powerful prop.
Any see the report that Itoje is being told to get in the faces of the ABs to rile them?
I saw it, wonder how well his hooter has healed after he wee falling out with Glasgow?
BBC suggesting the shit Anscombe to retain his place. Josh Adams to come in on wing with Loopy Liam on bench and Francis to start at 3. Talk of Beard to replace Cory BIL Hill.
Gashton for England!!
Riddle me this AA
Scotland seem to find it really hard to beat Wales yet regularly beat SH sides including thrashing Aus
Wales seem to find it really easy to beat scotland but cannot beat SH sides especially Aus
Why? Playing styles?
Wales seem to find it really easy to beat scotland but cannot beat SH sides especially Aus
Why? Playing styles?
Scotland are shit and the SH teams dont take them seriously!!! 😁
Wonder if Wales will lose to Australia with the late heartbreak method or the play shit and get dicked before a late rally to make it look close method this year.
Serious answer is we often play Aus outside the test window so have a weakened team, further reduced by having played SA and NZ first. Scotland in autumn are often more able to play a weaker team as a warm up too and so are able to build up to and target 1 big SH team.
A fairly predictable team, with Itoje told to be an “acceptable risk”. Hmm. I don’t mind a competitive nuisance but if we go down the route of successful yellows or a red because we are asking our players to err on the side of naughty, that isn’t good.
Predictions? 39-15 AB’s for me.
Why?
Scotland are shit
Stats don't lie.
At least their bench looks pretty weak:
Replacements: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Matt Todd, TJ Perenara, Richie Mo’unga, Ryan Crotty.
You’ve got high standards! 😁
Stats don’t lie.
Unless you apply the TJ Algorithm.
The same centre pairing as last week?
I hope England have read this. (And I hope NZ haven't)
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-where-the-all-blacks-will-target-england-part-i